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View Charles's Profile Charles Flag Forest Hill 24 Mar 24 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Charles Add Charles as a friend

Discussions of who we might like to see move on and who we might like to see stay after this blighted season finishes overlook a couple pf key points it seemed to me.

Firstly, if a player is the subject of a bid offering him an opportunity to progress his career, play at a higher level or perhaps just earn more, he's going to want to go and we won't gain anything by obstructing him.

More importantly though, we should not want not if - as would usually apply in Palace's circumstances - we would be going to make a significant profit on the transfer. Shrewd acquisitions followed by onward transfers to bigger clubs for fees double what we paid or more are the only way open to the club to grow. This is the model working for Brighton and which worked for Southampton for a number of years. In the latter case, falling out with their Director of Football (or equivalent) started them on the slippery slope not overselling. It's my view that the thinness of our bench, which caused such misery this season, results in part from sales which might have been expected for some players by now not having happened - due to injury or other complications (I suspect Guehi would have moved last summer but for Chelsea threatening to exercise their right to match any offer we accepted for him when he understandably didn't want to return). To be honest a couple of big money transfers might rnable us to form a much stronger squad for nest season.

 

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View XKudu's Profile XKudu Flag England 24 Mar 24 10.12pm Send a Private Message to XKudu Add XKudu as a friend

If we could score 5 or 6 goals from corners a season (like all other clubs) instead of an embarrassing big fat zero and also defend a lead more times than not in the last dying moments wed have another 6 or 8 more points to our tally and be cruising.

Sure we have a few below par players in the squad but if we keep chugging away and buying wisely in the summer we should be more than fine.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Mar 24 10.55pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by XKudu

If we could score 5 or 6 goals from corners a season (like all other clubs) instead of an embarrassing big fat zero and also defend a lead more times than not in the last dying moments wed have another 6 or 8 more points to our tally and be cruising.

Sure we have a few below par players in the squad but if we keep chugging away and buying wisely in the summer we should be more than fine.

I do feel it will be a 'Summer of change' in terms of player movements, reflecting the 'Glasner Way' of playing football.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 Mar 24 9.57am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I do feel it will be a 'Summer of change' in terms of player movements, reflecting the 'Glasner Way' of playing football.

I don't recall an avalanche of new players when Vieira took over.

That said, different manager and, yes, there will need to be some new blood.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Mar 24 10.06am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I don't recall an avalanche of new players when Vieira took over.

That said, different manager and, yes, there will need to be some new blood.

Vieira was appointed in July 2021.Our signings in the 'Summer Window' when Vieira was in charge were as follows :

Remi Matthews, Joachim Andersen, Marc Guehi, Conor Gallagher, Will Hughes, Michael Olise, Odsonne Eduoard.

Edited by Willo (25 Mar 2024 10.07am)

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 Mar 24 10.33am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Vieira was appointed in July 2021.Our signings in the 'Summer Window' when Vieira was in charge were as follows :

Remi Matthews, Joachim Andersen, Marc Guehi, Conor Gallagher, Will Hughes, Michael Olise, Odsonne Eduoard.

Edited by Willo (25 Mar 2024 10.07am)

OK, that is an avalanche, certainly by our tight-purse standards. Probably the best splurge since Big Sam.

Fingers crossed for the summer...

Edited by silvertop (25 Mar 2024 10.34am)

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 25 Mar 24 10.51am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

OK, that is an avalanche, certainly by our tight-purse standards. Probably the best splurge since Big Sam.

Fingers crossed for the summer...

Edited by silvertop (25 Mar 2024 10.34am)

We were top spenders in January window, you can only spend what you have, otherwise you get penalised like Everton, Forest and Leicester.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 Mar 24 11.08am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

We were top spenders in January window, you can only spend what you have, otherwise you get penalised like Everton, Forest and Leicester.

Well, yeah. Read any of my posts on this issue. When we get the usual mid season moans from those talking about Parrish's quiet cheque book or the club lacking ambition, I am fiercely defensive of our prudent and sustainable transfer policy.

A busy summer should not mean rule breaking or, otherwise, unaccountable profligacy. Loans, free agents, good bargains from the Champ or Continent (German/Austrian?). We could have a compete overhaul of real quality and still not spend as much as Forest did just on Gibbs White.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Mar 24 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

A number of PL clubs have been reported as needing to sell to avoid FFP penalties or having to sell before they can buy.

Hopefully this summer window will then be a buyers market.

 


One more point

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View tsp's Profile tsp Flag 31 Mar 24 2.29pm Send a Private Message to tsp Add tsp as a friend

Some miscellaneous thoughts for the forthcoming summer:

GK
Johnstone maybe would have gone but his injury will deter big offers. So not change probably.

CB
Ward should get an extension. His best position is right side of three at the back. It doesn't need as much pace and energy as FB, but he has the 1-on-1 skills when he has to push wide if the WB is upfield.
Tomkins will surely move on. It feels that he's a positive influence in the dressing room but now too old and not of the required quality.
Guehi and Anderson have two years left on their contracts. Big offers will cause a sale, but they could be kept one more year, and losing both would surely not be sanctioned. My best bet: we lose Guehi to big money and hopefully that is reinvested elsewhere.
Richards and Holding will stay.
That gives us with Ward, Richards, Anderson, Holding, maybe Guehi. That's not enough players and not enough quality. So I think we'll sign at least one CB, perhaps two. (I'm not sure if there is a good candidate in the youth setup.)

RWB
Munoz is obviously excellent. Imray looks an outstanding prospect and is training with the first team. Ward can play in an emergency.
So the right side is good for now. I expect Clyne will be let go.

LWB
Mitchell is a very good footballer and improving as WB but it's not his most natural position, he is more suited to four at the back. Tayomarola had promise a few years back but I've not heard much since. Can he cut it in the Prem? Schlupp can play here in an emergency.
So while it is not priority, I would not be surprised if we invested here. It's not out of the question that Mitchell could be sold, if both the money was good and the replacement was high class.

CM
Doucoure won't get big offers this summer after the long injury. So we have him, Wharton, Lerma, Ozoh for two places. This is good. Hughes may be kept on for one more year, maybe not.

AM
Sadly, this is the perfect moment for Olise to leave. He's at the right age, he can cut it at the very top, there is a release clause, and two big clubs have spaces in his best position (Salah is getting older, City haven't replaced Mahrez). So the club should try to trigger a bidding war.
Eze might stay. I'm not certain he would do well at the very top. Of course, a big fee would change things, but my best bet is he stays.
Schlupp will probably get another year, given the gaps here and given his versatility. Ahamada offers something, I'm not sure what Glasner makes of him yet.
All in all, if Olise leaves it all seems a bit thin here. We need to buy at least one if not two players. I'm sure Dougie has some in mind. I wonder if any of the many promising players in the youth team can step up?

CF
JPM is doing great under Glasner. Edouard won't attract many offers with his wages. (For what it's worth, I think he'd score shed loads of goals one level down. He's a very clinical finisher when given just a bit more time/space than Prem defences allow.)
So these two will stay. It would be good to get one more of Prem quality, but CFs are expensive and other priorities may be higher.

In sum, I think we'll be after at one or two CB, one LWB, one or two AM, maybe one CF. We probably won't get all of these.


Edited by tsp (31 Mar 2024 5.59pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 Apr 24 11.48am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


set pieces

shots on target

assists

and.......something every Eagle loves, Palace Goals.

Our defence has been good enough, for this league. Our attack needs a major overhaul. And, of course, its never cheap to manage this.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 01 Apr 24 12.02pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by tsp

AM
Sadly, this is the perfect moment for Olise to leave. He's at the right age, he can cut it at the very top, there is a release clause, and two big clubs have spaces in his best position (Salah is getting older, City haven't replaced Mahrez). So the club should try to trigger a bidding war.

Edited by tsp (31 Mar 2024 5.59pm)

Assuming Olise has a release clause, the only bidding war will be over Olis'e wages and length of contract. Palace will have no say in where he goes or profit from it

 

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