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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jul 24 9.07am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Best thing to do is ignore and not give any oxygen , I do and it works for me

We are dealing with a nut. Enough is enough.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 9.15am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

There has been a volcanic eruption of conspiracy theories surrounding this event. Some of which are appearing here. Others not. They cannot all be right, and none might be.

Investigations are proceeding at pace but as we know whatever they reveal won’t be trusted and will still be challenged by conspiracy theories 60 years from now.

That’s now our world. One in which the truth is whatever you believe it to be.

How do we deal with this lack of trust and the divisions it causes? Sadly, I have no idea.

I found this interesting:-

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eaglesdare Flag 15 Jul 24 9.25am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

A new low by a certain poster. I agree with the others here in that it's best to just ignore now.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 9.35am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There has been a volcanic eruption of conspiracy theories surrounding this event. Some of which are appearing here. Others not. They cannot all be right, and none might be.

Investigations are proceeding at pace but as we know whatever they reveal won’t be trusted and will still be challenged by conspiracy theories 60 years from now.

That’s now our world. One in which the truth is whatever you believe it to be.

How do we deal with this lack of trust and the divisions it causes? Sadly, I have no idea.

I found this interesting:-

[Link]

I have a theory of my own - I've seen the image of the shooter, including one of his 'graduation' from high school which screams 'bullied at school'. Add to that I also read he worked in a nursing home or something, a job which does not scream 'glamour, money and prestige'.

Take a young man, bullied at school and who perhaps generally not doing too well in life, add in the political extremism of the US and a left wing narrative that focusses upon telling such individuals their suffering is somebody else's fault and points a finger at Trump, within a culture that almost celebrates firearms, and it is hardly the most shocking outcome.

'Young man suffering in life, feeling disempowered and disenfranchised, wanting to blame someone or something else other than himself and provided with that bogeyman but the propagandist state, looks to the very accessible weaponry to do something which will make him feel very important and salvage him from his misery'. Less of a conspiracy for me and more of a rational theory, but I could be a million miles off of course.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Jul 24 9.43am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Was it an attempt on his life? If you listen to some of the conspiracy theories, not the ones you read here, it was all staged to show him as a hero before the Convention.

But yes, I detest violence of every kind and never want it to succeed.

I wish he had never been born, not that he must now be removed. He exists, but so does the populism that allows such a character to be elevated to high office.

It’s the belief in populism as a solution to political problems that needs to be removed. Not the pawns that try to manoeuvre their way to become kings.

Trouble is you can't start quoting conspiracy theories after dismissing them as worthless in cases where they don't fit a certain narrative.
Is the contention here that Crooks was so indoctrinated he was prepared to shoot close enough to Trump to make it look real and that certain of the security forces were involved to allow this to happen and then kill him before he could tell his story?
This all looks a bit Oliver Stone.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 9.47am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I would add - if you write what you post to wind people up or get a reaction, then great job!
If you believe what you write, then no wonder this country is going down the pan.

That anybody gets wound up by reading other opinions is their problem. It’s not my intention, I just express my opinions, which in a free society, in a place where freedom of speech is frequently championed, I find being disliked a little odd!

That some believe that holding socially liberal, fiscally conservative, middle of the road, progressive political views is the reason for the UK “going down the pan” is quite sad. I am proud we have moved on from the politics of the past to become a more inclusive and tolerant society and am disappointed that pockets of resentment still exist.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Jul 2024 9.59am)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 15 Jul 24 9.58am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Was it an attempt on his life? If you listen to some of the conspiracy theories, not the ones you read here, it was all staged to show him as a hero before the Convention.

But yes, I detest violence of every kind and never want it to succeed.

I wish he had never been born, not that he must now be removed. He exists, but so does the populism that allows such a character to be elevated to high office.

It’s the belief in populism as a solution to political problems that needs to be removed. Not the pawns that try to manoeuvre their way to become kings.

Seriously? Of course it ******* was.

"We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." [Orwell]

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 10.04am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Seriously? Of course it ******* was.

"We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." [Orwell]


I don’t think it wasn’t either!

I was merely pointing out how conspiracy theories arise. You regard this one as ridiculous. Some others would regard some posted here the same way.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jul 24 10.05am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Seriously? Of course it ******* was.

"We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." [Orwell]

Turn off the oxygen.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 10.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Trouble is you can't start quoting conspiracy theories after dismissing them as worthless in cases where they don't fit a certain narrative.
Is the contention here that Crooks was so indoctrinated he was prepared to shoot close enough to Trump to make it look real and that certain of the security forces were involved to allow this to happen and then kill him before he could tell his story?
This all looks a bit Oliver Stone.

I don’t though endorse any conspiracy theory. If quoted it will only be as an example. The problem is that some have total conviction in them and this is being exploited politically. This is another reason for the political divisions we are seeing.

Even if an investigation determines this guy was acting alone and a series of security failures enabled him to nearly succeed there will be many who refuse to believe it, convinced that the authorities, administration, deep state, CIA, FBI, Fauci, Biden, Clinton, Obama or Uncle Tom Cobbly were actually behind it.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Jul 24 10.28am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don’t though endorse any conspiracy theory. If quoted it will only be as an example. The problem is that some have total conviction in them and this is being exploited politically. This is another reason for the political divisions we are seeing.

Even if an investigation determines this guy was acting alone and a series of security failures enabled him to nearly succeed there will be many who refuse to believe it, convinced that the authorities, administration, deep state, CIA, FBI, Fauci, Biden, Clinton, Obama or Uncle Tom Cobbly were actually behind it.

None of which include the example quoted which was that Team Trump arranged it for pre election publicity.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 10.47am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You already know, and we all should know better than feeding the troll.


What you actually already know is that I am not a troll.

I have posted here for many years. That I hold opinions that differ from the majority here is obvious, but out in the real world mine are much closer to the majority view than those inside the right wing bubble that dominates here. It’s you that’s unusual, not me.

This is not a site devoted to right wing politics. It is a forum of the football club I have supported for 70 years. I have belonged since its inception.

Trolls deliberately disrupt. I don’t. I post my opinions. Opinions of a fellow supporter. You don’t agree with them. I don’t agree with yours. That’s life!

 


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