Lib Dems 'Net Zero' zealots led by a chap with 'Net Zero' charisma.

I have nothing more to add to this debate.I spend enough of my precious time outside of HOL aiming my fire at opposition parties and politicians who are subjected to an avalanche of fustigation with some asperity.

Edited by Willo (03 Jan 2024 4.09pm)

I don't mean this to sound accusatory, but if you really want to know it's not difficult to find: [Link]

If coming out with sensible policies is what will get you voting for someone, I think you may as well stay home at the next GE

The tories have been so bad there will have to be a truth commission.

Basically to find out if they were ever capable of telling it.

Day one of the new term and Sunak and Cleverly are lying their heads off and everyone knows it.

Followed by a damaging junior doctor's strike they could have settled a year ago at less than half the money.

But then these are the sort of hard working under-valued people necessary to society.

Something the tories could never be.

Possibly the worst and most embarrassing beginning to a campaign I've seen.
Most people have never heard of Sir Ed Davey, and he came across as a total bellend.

Voting Reform is the only sensible choice.

Sunak is toast. Starmageddon will set us back decades.

I agree that the Reform leadership is hardly ideal or exciting.

The trouble for me is that last time, UKIP did a deal with Boris not to contest in some constituencies and that has resulted in where we are now.
More immigration, no control of borders, Brexit only in name, and so on.
It wouldn't be a bad thing in my view if a good chunk of the Tory left lost their seats, given that the election is probably a forgone conclusion.
Conservatism should stand for the preservation of what it means to be British, not bean counting.