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Catfish  Burgess Hill 17 Apr 13 1.46pm |
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It all ended in farce. They have had to help David Cameron get out of the open grave. The trouble started when the Bishop said, OK you can throw the sod on top of her now...
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 Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Apr 13 1.57pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2013 1.33pm
Bye Mrs T She cast a terrible shadow over our country
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| Stirlingsays 17 Apr 13 2.02pm |
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Quote johnno42000 at 17 Apr 2013 1.43pm
For her the good news is that, by the terms of the pact she made with the Devil, she will be made young again in Hell...bad news Savile will be her babysitter.
Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Apr 2013 2.02pm)
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Johnny Eagles  berlin 17 Apr 13 2.05pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2013 1.33pm
Bye Mrs T She cast a terrible shadow over our country and made it feel ill at ease with itself. Kelvin MacKenzie was a huge admirer. That says it in a nutshell. But I'm not gonna blame her anymore. You do realise you've put that in writing now?
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Kermit8  Hevon 17 Apr 13 2.31pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 17 Apr 2013 2.05pm
Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2013 1.33pm
Bye Mrs T She cast a terrible shadow over our country and made it feel ill at ease with itself. Kelvin MacKenzie was a huge admirer. That says it in a nutshell. But I'm not gonna blame her anymore. You do realise you've put that in writing now?
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 17 Apr 13 2.38pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2013 1.33pm
Bye Mrs T She cast a terrible shadow over our country and made it feel ill at ease with itself. Kelvin MacKenzie was a huge admirer. That says it in a nutshell. But I'm not gonna blame her anymore.
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| Plane Bromley 17 Apr 13 2.42pm |
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Quote Catfish at 17 Apr 2013 1.46pm
It all ended in farce. They have had to help David Cameron get out of the open grave. The trouble started when the Bishop said, OK you can throw the sod on top of her now...
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Apr 13 2.54pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Apr 2013 1.24pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Apr 2013 12.55pm
And provisonally backed by initial findings into a study of generational unemployment. That said, Thatcher oversaw the disolution of the industrial age, and the initial growth of consumerism in the UK. I wouldn't blame her entirely, that would be unfair, but the restructuring of social values began with her administration. With the death of industry, large scale unemployment occured in the areas dependent on industry employment and the damage to the unions, as well as the nature of post-industrial consumer society values, resulted in a big shift in what constituted identity and self worth. If you look at the 50s through to the end of the 80s, people self identitifed along distinct class lines, and defined themselves by what they did. Now social division and identity is along lines of income (most notably disposable income) and how you consume. Fame is more important than achievement, hard work is considered a fools errand, pride in what you do is secondary to how much it costs, personal situation trumps group benefit, and the self is the 'primary source of morality'. Having money is the new morality. I think its no suprise that the decrease in the influence of Unions, led in part, to the decline of 'workers pride'. Its all about the money now.
Some of it was needed and she did bring about but alot of it was going to happen anyway and can be seen in many of the rich western countries. It's always easy to blame her because of what she stood for but the reality is she's blamed for any ill people can think of. It's dislike over reason most of the time. Probably true, most people don't understand that the PM and politicians aren't really all that responsible if one considers the nature of historical progression and the idea of the Zeitgiest. I get the feeling that people form attachments to PM's in the same way they do to Football Team Managers. The real power is the unseen forces of social discourses and ecconomics, both of which a PM and government have very little control over. Their only real capacity is to try to act based on the influences of those unseen currents, and try to point the ship towards a course. I'm with Foulcolt when it comes to the idea of the importance of individuals in history, ie that they're largely irrelivent, little more than symbols stuck up to represent the 'evolution' of social discourses. Theres a great computer game called 'Democracy' which mirrors just how difficult it is to run a democratic country, without p*ssing off half the population!!
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| Kermit8 Hevon 17 Apr 13 4.02pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Apr 2013 11.38am
A quite wonderful address by the Bishop of London.
Edited by Kermit8 (17 Apr 2013 4.06pm)
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| Stirlingsays 17 Apr 13 4.14pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Apr 2013 4.02pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Apr 2013 11.38am
A quite wonderful address by the Bishop of London.
Edited by Kermit8 (17 Apr 2013 4.06pm)
Kermit speaks for the mind of Jesus.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure we could call Jesus, 'A careerist man of God'. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Apr 2013 4.16pm)
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johnno42000  17 Apr 13 4.18pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Apr 2013 2.02pm
Quote johnno42000 at 17 Apr 2013 1.43pm
For her the good news is that, by the terms of the pact she made with the Devil, she will be made young again in Hell...bad news Savile will be her babysitter.
Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Apr 2013 2.02pm)
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palace777  belfast 17 Apr 13 4.29pm |
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no axe to grind here either way,but just a question about the costs that are being bandied about for the security and policing of the funeral.
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