Yeah, we really believe you have Republican friends WE.

It's right up there on probabilities with Bigfoot.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I am watching the Louis Theroux documentary on the American Far Right in which Nick Fuentes features quite a lot. He makes $4000 per show and is a millionaire. So being an over the top racist pays well in the USA. Spreading this kind of stuff to the impressionable is a great earner. All from a basement and a camera. Clever or what?

What's so sad to know is that many of the attitudes and political positions being openly promoted have extremely strong echoes to be heard right here.

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Fuentes is certainly clever. I haven't seen the Louis Theroux documentary personally.

I always find this 'oh they make plenty of money doing (insert stuff I don't like)' is an attempt to dismiss movements as hoodwinked....coming from the guy who thinks elites have our best interests at heart I'll treat that observation with the same smile I give your other contentions.

Fuentes, like Trump, is an expression of discontent. You have kind of demonstrated an inability to understand that, you instead have the rather ridiculous position of thinking people are stupid.

You're just out of the loop....you really have no real idea where America is. There are millionaire communists and millionaire nationalists...Sure Fuentes is a millionaire...They try to steal his money unlike say communist millionaires (no joke) like Hasan Piker.

They are expressions of discontent with the system......A system which you seem to think is doing well.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I recommend everyone, whatever their politics, to watch the documentary. It's an eye-opener.

The point about the money is that it obviously brings motivation questions. Just as it does here with Yaxley-Lennon. If it goes on lifestyle then is the commitment to the "cause" genuine, or are you a clever actor playing to a gullible audience?

That's a reasonable question, which is important to ask.

As with my own friends I don't think everyone who is caught up in this stuff is stupid, although some certainly are. The evidence for that can be very clearly seen in the documentary. Most times though this is a result of a narrow experience. One which has restricted contact with others, and other lifestyles. Those who spend their lives online, watching podcasts from those who confirm their biases, are taught not to trust the MSM and that anything they publish is either "leftist" or "fake news" are trapped in a circle from which it is difficult to escape.

I recognise the discontent and the division only too well. Identifying "expressions of discontent" is never difficult. It's identifying the causes and finding the solutions which are the challenges, and where the disagreement arises.

The cause is people who are unable to come to terms with some aspects of a changing world. A world which has already changed so that they can now be easily addressed by passionate and presentable "alternative" voices, whose views have always existed but previously weren't heard, and those feeding off them for financial gain.

The solution is to educate those people, help them experience more and see the benefits, rather than the negatives of change. Alongside that must be increased regulation, and subsequent moderation, of all social media platforms, including those seeking to avoid it, to remove all hate speech from the internet. Promotion of political ideas, however distasteful some might regard them, is not an issue. Promotion of hate against people that has the potential to cause violence is.

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Why get so personal about it? He just challenges - and very effectively - the racist and other similar views often expressed on this site.

I say to him - carry right on; you may well have far more "quiet" support than you realise.

Thank you. It's good to hear. I take comfort when the answers degenerate into personal insults and attempts at schoolboy humour.

Have you watched the Theroux documentary? Reclassification of racism into the protection of a besieged "white" underclass underlies much of the far-right approach. It's here too.

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