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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Oct 17 8.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Ah, come on. If the choice had been staying in the EU v more Muslim immigration the former would have won by 90% not 52% and you know it.

The daft irony is is that anti-EU votes have made it certain that we will end up having more Muslim immigration to fill the gaps left by the departing/can't come here so easily anymore Europeans.

Sometimes protest votes leave egg on the faces of the protesters.

Edited by Kermit8 (28 Oct 2017 8.15pm)

So you think people with your point of view only comprise ten percent of the population?

I'd say you're in the thirties percent myself.

Like I say it was apart of the vote.

The Islamic population is going up regardless of being in the EU or not. The problems to come are going to happen either way. I wasn't apart of supporting the tide that took us there. I was for non secular restriction or from taking from known moderate groups like Kurds. That and reform, that's what history will show I supported.

But our direction is set, I realised that a couple of years ago. It's why I'm angry about opinions like yours. But in essence it's a waste of time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Oct 2017 9.00pm)

 


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Originally posted by hedgehog50

Wow, bold font - surprised you didn't make it green ink.
How would that be the choice? If we vote to leave the EU we then have the ability to form our own immigration policy instead of having the theoretical prospect of the entire EU population moving here. Similarly, living in a British parliamentary democracy, we would form our own policy on any other type of immigration - including Islamic immigration. It is not a logical hypothetical scenario to say we have to choose between having EU immigration forced upon us or having Islamic immigration forced upon us.

Yeah, apologies about THE FONT

The rationale I gave you was different to the one you have now inserted to avoid answering the question I set you. Mine, originally if you remember, was the inevitable future of having more Muslim immigration because of Leave to help fill gaps.

I know what your answer would be and you know I know. You just can't bring yourself to say/admit it. I won't have won anything if you do. Clarity would be the winner.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So you think people with your point of view only comprise ten percent of the population?

I'd say you're in the thirties percent myself.

Like I say it was apart of the vote.

The Islamic population is going up regardless of being in the EU or not. The problems to come are going to happen either way. I wasn't apart of supporting the tide that took us there. I was for non secular restriction or from taking from known moderate groups like Kurds. That and reform, that's what history will show I supported.

But our direction is set, I realised that a couple of years ago. It's why I'm angry about opinions like yours. But in essence it's a waste of time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Oct 2017 9.00pm)

Bollocks. You didn't give a sh1t about Islamic immigration two decades ago and you didn't even use the word 'Muslim' regularly until you were in your thirties. Your righteousness is noted but I believe it is somewhat embellished.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 28 Oct 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yeah, apologies about THE FONT

The rationale I gave you was different to the one you have now inserted to avoid answering the question I set you. Mine, originally if you remember, was the inevitable future of having more Muslim immigration because of Leave to help fill gaps.

I know what your answer would be and you know I know. You just can't bring yourself to say/admit it. I won't have won anything if you do. Clarity would be the winner.

I'm not avoiding anything - your scenario is a crock of sh*t*. If an elected British government decides to encourage Islamic immigration (as unlikely as that would be), then fine. if the electorate does not like it, they could elect a different government. This is the central point that you want to ignore. If our government decides immigration policy we have some control over it. If unelected EU official decide it, we have none. This lack of control over our own affairs is why the wise British electorate voted to leave the EU. The rantings and dire predictions of left wing Remainers does not change this reality.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Oct 17 9.26pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Bollocks. You didn't give a sh1t about Islamic immigration two decades ago and you didn't even use the word 'Muslim' regularly until you were in your thirties. Your righteousness is noted but I believe it is somewhat embellished.

Two decades ago there were far less Muslims and a significant number weren't trying to kill us.

How many times will you say that?

 

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Originally posted by hedgehog50

I'm not avoiding anything - your scenario is a crock of sh*t*. If an elected British government decides to encourage Islamic immigration (as unlikely as that would be), then fine. if the electorate does not like it, they could elect a different government. This is the central point that you want to ignore. If our government decides immigration policy we have some control over it. If unelected EU official decide it, we have none. This lack of control over our own affairs is why the wise British electorate voted to leave the EU. The rantings and dire predictions of left wing Remainers does not change this reality.

The EU has never decided our non-EU immigration and that is exactly the immigration that most are seemingly concerned about. All you have done is voted for more of the same with regard to that.

Do you want more Muslims and less Europeans?

Vote 'Leave' for 'yes'

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Bollocks. You didn't give a sh1t about Islamic immigration two decades ago and you didn't even use the word 'Muslim' regularly until you were in your thirties. Your righteousness is noted but I believe it is somewhat embellished.

Well, two decades ago Islamic immigration was at 1 percent and attacks minimal.

The one thing I have some solace about Kermit is that our thoughts and stances are recorded here and in other media.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Oct 2017 9.46pm)

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

The EU has never decided our non-EU immigration and that is exactly the immigration that most are seemingly concerned about. All you have done is voted for more of the same with regard to that.

Do you want more Muslims and less Europeans?

Vote 'Leave' for 'yes'

I want less of both. So do most people, including immigrants.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I want less of both. So do most people, including immigrants.

Well you are going to get more of one and less of the other.

As Mick said - 'you can't always get what you want'

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Oct 17 9.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, two decades ago Islamic immigration was at 1 percent and attacks minimal.

The one thing I have some solace about Kermit is that our thoughts and stances are recorded here and in other media.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Oct 2017 9.46pm)

Really, after the bollocks you post?

=knockabout

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, two decades ago Islamic immigration was at 1 percent and attacks minimal.

The one thing I have some solace about Kermit is that our thoughts and stances are recorded here and in other media.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Oct 2017 9.46pm)

You don't need that. History has already told us the results of your way of thinking. You fail.

Edited by Kermit8 (28 Oct 2017 9.52pm)

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Really, after the bollocks you post?

=knockabout

Ha, there comes in mini brother for his mate.

Like the other night supporting Ray on his pro male circumcision posts the other night. Their dislike of me more important to them than the issue.

 


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