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The far left gather forces to protest against those they call racists.

These people are the pits.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 4.55pm)

 


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Park Road Flag 20 Jun 18 5.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The far left gather forces to protest against those they call racists.

These people are the pits.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 4.55pm)

"Let’s come together to defend our multicultural society from those who spread hatred and division."

Is he talking about radical Islam?


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Can you give us an example of these 'right wing' views?

You do realise that being 'Right wing' as opposed to Left wing is not a crime right?

You do understand that 'Right wing' does not mean you are a Nazi.

I see this as a potential vote loser for the left . The more they accuse people of being a nazi for disagreeing with them, the more people will kick against it . It is all a gamble for them . Try and garner the votes of immigrants, and minorities, or gamble on losing the core vote of the working class . Because it is mainly the working class that have an issue with religious, and racial differences .

 

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Park Road Flag 20 Jun 18 5.13pm

Originally posted by Strolling bones

I see this as a potential vote loser for the left . The more they accuse people of being a nazi for disagreeing with them, the more people will kick against it . It is all a gamble for them . Try and garner the votes of immigrants, and minorities, or gamble on losing the core vote of the working class . Because it is mainly the working class that have an issue with religious, and racial differences .

Good post in general, but can't let your last statement go, without asking for evidence

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The far left gather forces to protest against those they call racists.

These people are the pits.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 4.55pm)

It's not 'our' multicultural society, it's the one that was forced upon us and is, surprise, surprise, supported by immigrants and The Labour Party.

This is purely about self interest and nothing to do with some greater morality at all.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jun 18 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Good post in general, but can't let your last statement go, without asking for evidence


I get your enquiry, but he probably means that they are the ones who have to deal with it on the ground.

You know....those middle class people who 'love diversity' but move out and live in mainly white areas.

Where as the actual working class have to like it or lump it.

But there are a lot of lower and middle class who can see what is happening to this country.....We are all united on this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 5.24pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The far left gather forces to protest against those they call racists.

These people are the pits.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2018 4.55pm)

This is typical of politicians from all sides, gesture politics (sign a letter or petition) and shut down the debate.

If they are really concerned about the rise of the "far right" rather than scream racist why not engage with the public (I don't mean Tommy Robinson and his crowd I mean the public).

The way to tackle extremism is to cut off their support base and you do that by addressing what is bothering ordinary people. Many of the areas where the far right are allegedly rising are actually Labour so why are politicians not talking to the voters in that area. Or do they not want to hear what the public have to say?

The more politicians deny that their policies are causing a problem and the more they ignore their own voters the more likely that people will to turn to extremism.

I actually think the rise of the far right is over hyped at the moment but do nothing and it may happen and then the left will say "told you so".

Where is the voice of reason where are the politicians who will come forward with sensible policies to lance the boil.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jun 18 6.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The far left took over a whole major national party.

The right didn't organise street protests over that.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 7.42pm

Originally posted by Strolling bones

I see this as a potential vote loser for the left . The more they accuse people of being a nazi for disagreeing with them, the more people will kick against it . It is all a gamble for them . Try and garner the votes of immigrants, and minorities, or gamble on losing the core vote of the working class . Because it is mainly the working class that have an issue with religious, and racial differences .

Because the media turns the middle classes against the poor and the poor on it’s own, so that the middle and upper classes can reign unchallenged. They started all this with the stories of immigrants being a strain on society and the taxpayer, when in fact they are far less of a burden than the corporate fraudsters and tax dodgers. When this argument was laid bare they needed a new storyline. Along comes the Islam storyline which again is blown out of proportion to feed the underclass masses and have them raging against the machine and each other and anyone who will listen. It’s a tried and tested method which until you leave the bubble and look at things from another angle you will get roped along and cajoled into believing everything the media and people like Tommy Robinson pedal out. How do I know this? Because I’ve Seen it from both sides of the fence. And I know that my current way of seeing things is far more believable than my former view.

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Because the media turns the middle classes against the poor and the poor on it’s own, so that the middle and upper classes can reign unchallenged. They started all this with the stories of immigrants being a strain on society and the taxpayer, when in fact they are far less of a burden than the corporate fraudsters and tax dodgers. When this argument was laid bare they needed a new storyline.


Show me these main media stories saying immigrants are a strain on society and the taxpayer? I know the last official study by lefty academics said that immigrants from outside the EU were a burden....even though they tried their best to hide that outcome by pushing the lie into the mainstream media that immigrants were a benefit.....When they only included EU immigrants....So they lied and the media lied by not making it clear that the information was filtered.

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Along comes the Islam storyline which again is blown out of proportion to feed the underclass masses and have them raging against the machine and each other and anyone who will listen. It’s a tried and tested method which until you leave the bubble and look at things from another angle you will get roped along and cajoled into believing everything the media and people like Tommy Robinson pedal out. How do I know this? Because I’ve Seen it from both sides of the fence. And I know that my current way of seeing things is far more believable than my former view.


I'm sorry, we have hundreds of murdered people from terrorist attacks. Don't peddle your crap about being fooled by a class based conspiracy theory.

For every one Muslim who joined the British Army (and respect to each of those) There were four who joined IS.

So don't come one here and talk about being fooled. You're the one with your head in the sand mate.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 8.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I'm sorry, we have hundreds of murdered people from terrorist attacks. Don't peddle your crap about being fooled by a class based conspiracy theory.

For every one Muslim who joined the British Army (and respect to each of those) There were four who joined IS.

So don't come one here and talk about being fooled. You're the one with your head in the sand mate.

Isis exist I’m not denying that. Were they devised by the US and are they armed by them? There’s a strong rumour that this is the case.
But people like you make them a much bigger problem than they really are. It’s a made up enemy no matter how you want to argue it. You’ve seen the stats that show that Isis are way down in the list in regards to the number of western people the kill compared to all sorts of things, like toothpicks and lawnmowers. Yet people like you just have to have an enemy. And you’d be plain bonkers if you waged war on toothpicks or lawnmowers.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 18 8.15pm

Haha. And just to prove how bonkers your focus on the dangers of Islam are. I plucked lawnmowers out of thin air. Did a google search on the real stats of Muslim murders. And this came up third on the list. Laughable.
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