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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Apr 24 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think that is true at all. No one allowed him to do anything, whether tacitly or not. He fooled many and, as has been recently pointed out here, threatened and bullied others.

That he damaged many lives is unarguable but to suggest the BBC were "protecting an asset" whilst knowing what he was up to is not true. Some at lower levels had concerns and suspicions but no route to report them or get them investigated.

Savile was very clever. He projected a persona which included being weird but also avuncular and well-meaning. As a consequence, he became untouchable.

He was banned from the studio when Children in Need was being filmed. Someone knew.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Apr 24 1.30pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

He was banned from the studio when Children in Need was being filmed. Someone knew.

Loads of people knew. A ton of victims & their families knew. The BBC dinner lady/toilet cleaners/skivvies all knew. Terry Wogan certainly knew and confessed so much.

All the top brass at the BBC, Downing Street, the Palace, wherever else.......do you really believe they never knew ?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Apr 24 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Loads of people knew. A ton of victims & their families knew. The BBC dinner lady/toilet cleaners/skivvies all knew. Terry Wogan certainly knew and confessed so much.

All the top brass at the BBC, Downing Street, the Palace, wherever else.......do you really believe they never knew ?

I think a lot of that is wisdom after the fact myself.

You are suggesting that Savile was protected. Isn't that similar to what the Labour MP alleged about some old Tories and it turned out to be based upon claims by a fruitcake?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Epstein and Weinstein situations are more than enough proof that sexual exploitation by the powerful is commonplace. However, should we automatically assume that they are all in on it? Personally I don't think it works like that.

I think certain intelligence agencies are involved in blackmail and dirty laundry knowledge about people....I think that does go on...The Epstein situation kind of proves it....Hollywood is a sick place run by sick people. However, do we really think that applies to the Savile situation back in the 70s and 80s? Maybe you're right but I prefer to think not while having an open mind to evidence.

Did loads of people know Savile was a peado?....As a layman I prefer to think the people on the ground suspected more than knew....suspecting someone is dodgey is one thing....for example, how many under 16s did rock stars shag?
Logic tells us we know it went on but we haven't officially heard much about it have we?...There's a difference between hearing stuff and knowing stuff...actually knowing names and addresses.

However, the Police received a complaint and don't seem to have taken it seriously. That very much looks like a terrible decision.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2024 2.24pm)

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

He was banned from the studio when Children in Need was being filmed. Someone knew.

If you read the story you linked to it clearly says he was banned because of suspicions. Suspicions aren’t knowledge. You can prosecute knowledge of criminal activity. You cannot prosecute suspicions.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Apr 24 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you read the story you linked to it clearly says he was banned because of suspicions. Suspicions aren’t knowledge. You can prosecute knowledge of criminal activity. You cannot prosecute suspicions.

But the fact those suspicions were held mitigates against the no knowledge of what he was up to claim.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Apr 24 2.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

How much did the BBC know about Phillip Schofield?

Is there actually anyone straight working at the BBC?

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Did loads of people know Savile was a peado?....As a layman I prefer to think the people on the ground suspected more than knew....suspecting someone is dodgey is one thing....for example, how many under 16s did rock stars shag?
Logic tells us we know it went on but we haven't officially heard much about it have we?...There's a difference between hearing stuff and knowing stuff...actually knowing names and addresses.

However, the Police received a complaint and don't seem to have taken it seriously. That very much looks like a terrible decision.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2024 2.24pm)

there is surely a difference between a) a pop star doing a consenting groupie....her the same age as half the pram-pushers of Croydon, and b) Jimmy Savile violently raping innocent children.

the BBC should have been disbanded and replaced with something accountable & manageable.

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 26 Apr 24 3.59pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Back in the day many of the higher ups were at it and they could/would ensure that little got done about it.
Police, MP's, top Execs - you name them and they were at it.
He was too powerful a man and knew too many people.
Loads knew but many are now dead otherwise they should be imprisoned.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 24 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But the fact those suspicions were held mitigates against the no knowledge of what he was up to claim.

No, it doesn't. Suspicions don't indicate knowledge. Suspicions can indicate a variety of things. Have you never been suspected of being up to something whilst knowing you are totally innocent?

They can do, but as they cannot be relied on cannot be trusted.

What went wrong was the lack of any mechanism whereby the volume of suspicions could be assessed and investigated by ensuring they were reported, safely and without fear.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, it doesn't. Suspicions don't indicate knowledge. Suspicions can indicate a variety of things. Have you never been suspected of being up to something whilst knowing you are totally innocent?

They can do, but as they cannot be relied on cannot be trusted.

What went wrong was the lack of any mechanism whereby the volume of suspicions could be assessed and investigated by ensuring they were reported, safely and without fear.

What, like someone silently praying in the street?

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

there is surely a difference between a) a pop star doing a consenting groupie....her the same age as half the pram-pushers of Croydon, and b) Jimmy Savile violently raping innocent children.

the BBC should have been disbanded and replaced with something accountable & manageable.

Yes there is, I'd agree with both your points.

I want to know how we can have a situation where anyone is raping children and can get away with it.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Apr 24 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, it doesn't. Suspicions don't indicate knowledge. Suspicions can indicate a variety of things. Have you never been suspected of being up to something whilst knowing you are totally innocent?

They can do, but as they cannot be relied on cannot be trusted.

What went wrong was the lack of any mechanism whereby the volume of suspicions could be assessed and investigated by ensuring they were reported, safely and without fear.

And an organisation which employs a raft of investigative journalists didn't think to enquire why a high profile employee was banned from a charity event involving children.

 

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