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pizzapat Caterham 27 Jan 22 6.50pm
Originally posted by Spiderman So it was not a penalty, what is going to happen to Friend and Pawson? I think we know the answer i believe Friend has been given a game at the ground of the team we beat in the cup.... i dare him to do the same thing there!! 2010 decided my services were no longer required after 10 years service on the WHITEHORSE LANE FAMILY STAND #CRPS please read [Link] to find out what #CRPS is
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pizzapat

Caterham 27 Jan 22 6.50pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

So it was not a penalty, what is going to happen to Friend and Pawson? I think we know the answer

i believe Friend has been given a game at the ground of the team we beat in the cup....
i dare him to do the same thing there!!

2010 decided my services were no longer required after 10 years service on the WHITEHORSE LANE FAMILY STAND

#CRPS

please read [Link] to find out what #CRPS is

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.21pm
Originally posted by pizzapat i believe Friend has been given a game at the ground of the team we beat in the cup.... i dare him to do the same thing there!! It was reported on HOL that Kevin Friend has been allocated to the Millwall game. He never awarded the penalty against Liverpool having witnessed the incident in real-time. There will be no VAR at the Millwall game !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.21pm

Originally posted by pizzapat

i believe Friend has been given a game at the ground of the team we beat in the cup....
i dare him to do the same thing there!!

It was reported on HOL that Kevin Friend has been allocated to the Millwall game.
He never awarded the penalty against Liverpool having witnessed the incident in real-time. There will be no VAR at the Millwall game !

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.24pm
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South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.24pm

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 27 Jan 22 7.31pm
Originally posted by roman eagle Further to my previous post, here is a the relevant question and answer from the IFAB website regarding Liverpool’s second goal. The FAQs give guidance on a variety of scenarios regarding the offside law - the one below describes the exact situation which occurred on Sunday. I repeat that it is shocking that top referees do not actually know the laws of the game and how they should be interpreted. An attacker (Team A) in an offside position and a defender (Team B) jump for a header and compete for the ball. Neither of them touches the ball which goes to another Team A player who is in an onside position and scores. What is the correct decision? The referee awards an indirect free kick to Team B. It is an offside offence because the attacker clearly attempted to play the ball which was close and this action impacted on the opponent. (The International Football Association Board -IFAB - is the law-making body of football) Thank you roman, great find! As stated, it was clearly offside, not only in the footballing terms that we are used to and have all grown up with but also in the current laws of the game. How they got it SO wrong is beyond me and smacks of bias rather than incompetence. Anyone operating as the VAR should be fully aware of this situation as it’s not even an obscure one or uncommon situation. It is such an appalling decision that the officials responsible SHOULD come out and actually apologise and not just hide behind the usual veil of silence. Edited by Phil’s Barber (27 Jan 2022 7.32pm)
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 27 Jan 22 7.31pm

Originally posted by roman eagle

Further to my previous post, here is a the relevant question and answer from the IFAB website regarding Liverpool’s second goal. The FAQs give guidance on a variety of scenarios regarding the offside law - the one below describes the exact situation which occurred on Sunday. I repeat that it is shocking that top referees do not actually know the laws of the game and how they should be interpreted.

An attacker (Team A) in an offside position and a defender (Team B) jump for a header and compete for the ball. Neither of them touches the ball which goes to another Team A player who is in an onside position and scores. What is the correct decision?

The referee awards an indirect free kick to Team B. It is an offside offence because the attacker clearly attempted to play the ball which was close and this action impacted on the opponent.

(The International Football Association Board -IFAB - is the law-making body of football)

Thank you roman, great find!

As stated, it was clearly offside, not only in the footballing terms that we are used to and have all grown up with but also in the current laws of the game. How they got it SO wrong is beyond me and smacks of bias rather than incompetence. Anyone operating as the VAR should be fully aware of this situation as it’s not even an obscure one or uncommon situation. It is such an appalling decision that the officials responsible SHOULD come out and actually apologise and not just hide behind the usual veil of silence.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (27 Jan 2022 7.32pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.44pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Thank you roman, great find! As stated, it was clearly offside, not only in the footballing terms that we are used to and have all grown up with but also in the current laws of the game. How they got it SO wrong is beyond me and smacks of bias rather than incompetence. Anyone operating as the VAR should be fully aware of this situation as it’s not even an obscure one or uncommon situation. It is such an appalling decision that the officials responsible SHOULD come out and actually apologise and not just hide behind the usual veil of silence. Edited by Phil’s Barber (27 Jan 2022 7.32pm) At present officials are not permitted to make comments to the media but I accept many would be delighted if this was altered and they were encouraged to explain their decisions to supporters.They might even receive some sympathy ! Edited by Willo (27 Jan 2022 7.45pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 22 7.44pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Thank you roman, great find!

As stated, it was clearly offside, not only in the footballing terms that we are used to and have all grown up with but also in the current laws of the game. How they got it SO wrong is beyond me and smacks of bias rather than incompetence. Anyone operating as the VAR should be fully aware of this situation as it’s not even an obscure one or uncommon situation. It is such an appalling decision that the officials responsible SHOULD come out and actually apologise and not just hide behind the usual veil of silence.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (27 Jan 2022 7.32pm)

At present officials are not permitted to make comments to the media but I accept many would be delighted if this was altered and they were encouraged to explain their decisions to supporters.They might even receive some sympathy !

Edited by Willo (27 Jan 2022 7.45pm)

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The Dolphin 28 Jan 22 6.41am
I know we keep banging on about this and it can't change anything but when your team is wronged so badly it makes you look at the process in more detail. All of the comments on that Sky link are really interesting. The "offisde" goal - why is it subjective as DG said - the rules are clear, the incident happened and VAR - or Pawson in this case - looked at it and said it wasn't an issue. If they are going to use VAR then it is not about subjectivity, it is about the rules of the game and not what Corrupt Pawson thinks and so that goal was offside by the letter of the law and the rules of the game - no argument at all. The Penalty - no need to discuss - the whole world knows the answer - but as one of the panel said - it is not VAR that is wrong it is the referee who used it - it becomes all about Corrupt Pawson's opinion when there should be no argument at all. They need ex-players in that room because that would change the outcome of many a decision. Finally - why have the pitch side monitor if every time - and this season it is every time - the Ref goes there he falls in favour of VAR. Absolute joke and I hope that game last weekend changes how it works albeit I am not holding my breath!
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The Dolphin

28 Jan 22 6.41am

I know we keep banging on about this and it can't change anything but when your team is wronged so badly it makes you look at the process in more detail.
All of the comments on that Sky link are really interesting.
The "offisde" goal - why is it subjective as DG said - the rules are clear, the incident happened and VAR - or Pawson in this case - looked at it and said it wasn't an issue.
If they are going to use VAR then it is not about subjectivity, it is about the rules of the game and not what Corrupt Pawson thinks and so that goal was offside by the letter of the law and the rules of the game - no argument at all.
The Penalty - no need to discuss - the whole world knows the answer - but as one of the panel said - it is not VAR that is wrong it is the referee who used it - it becomes all about Corrupt Pawson's opinion when there should be no argument at all.
They need ex-players in that room because that would change the outcome of many a decision.
Finally - why have the pitch side monitor if every time - and this season it is every time - the Ref goes there he falls in favour of VAR.
Absolute joke and I hope that game last weekend changes how it works albeit I am not holding my breath!

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Jan 22 7.26am
Dermot Gallagher's opinion on Sky Watch posted here argues that a subjective decision was made on Firmino's impact on interfering with the game. Fair enough, most of life can be subjective. But if the VAR controller subjectively thinks that if Firmino wasn't standing in the six yard box waiting for a cross to attack Mitchell would still be standing there on his own like a lemon instead of back-tracking to Oxlade Chamblerain behind him, then they should be sacked.
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Jan 22 7.26am

Dermot Gallagher's opinion on Sky Watch posted here argues that a subjective decision was made on Firmino's impact on interfering with the game.

Fair enough, most of life can be subjective. But if the VAR controller subjectively thinks that if Firmino wasn't standing in the six yard box waiting for a cross to attack Mitchell would still be standing there on his own like a lemon instead of back-tracking to Oxlade Chamblerain behind him, then they should be sacked.

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Spiderman Online Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.39am
Originally posted by Willo It was reported on HOL that Kevin Friend has been allocated to the Millwall game. He never awarded the penalty against Liverpool having witnessed the incident in real-time. There will be no VAR at the Millwall game ! It is a shame he didn’t have the b***s to stick to his original decision then. As for Pawson, the mind boggles Edited by Spiderman (28 Jan 2022 7.42am)
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Spiderman Online

Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.39am

Originally posted by Willo

It is a shame he didn’t have the b***s to stick to his original decision then. As for Pawson, the mind boggles

Edited by Spiderman (28 Jan 2022 7.42am)

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Spiderman Online Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.41am
Originally posted by Willo SKY Ref Watch : [Link] I saw this at the time, Gallagher was floundering trying to defend the non-offside decision, both ex-players were adamant it had to be offside
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Spiderman Online

Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.41am

Originally posted by Willo

SKY Ref Watch :

[Link]

I saw this at the time, Gallagher was floundering trying to defend the non-offside decision, both ex-players were adamant it had to be offside

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Spiderman Online Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.44am
Originally posted by Willo At present officials are not permitted to make comments to the media but I accept many would be delighted if this was altered and they were encouraged to explain their decisions to supporters.They might even receive some sympathy ! Edited by Willo (27 Jan 2022 7.45pm) Yep but those 2 would definitely get no sympathy and neither do they deserve any. The offside decision smacks of bias I am afraid
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Spiderman Online

Horsham 28 Jan 22 7.44am

Originally posted by Willo

Edited by Willo (27 Jan 2022 7.45pm)

Yep but those 2 would definitely get no sympathy and neither do they deserve any. The offside decision smacks of bias I am afraid

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southnorwoodhill 28 Jan 22 8.09am
For each official to have such a sub-par performance, including the lino, all during the same game, well the odds must surely stack up. Personally I think of it as a level of collusion, albeit at a subconscious level, to ensure LiVARpool went away with the spoils. All major decisions went Liverpool's way, in fact the officials showed a brazen bias throughout the game. Yes, the whole world can see how VAR is used to affect a game, legitimate call or not.
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For each official to have such a sub-par performance, including the lino, all during the same game, well the odds must surely stack up. Personally I think of it as a level of collusion, albeit at a subconscious level, to ensure LiVARpool went away with the spoils. All major decisions went Liverpool's way, in fact the officials showed a brazen bias throughout the game. Yes, the whole world can see how VAR is used to affect a game, legitimate call or not.

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Teddy Eagle 28 Jan 22 8.27am
Originally posted by Spiderman I saw this at the time, Gallagher was floundering trying to defend the non-offside decision, both ex-players were adamant it had to be offside How often does Gallagher not defend the referee?
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Teddy Eagle

28 Jan 22 8.27am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I saw this at the time, Gallagher was floundering trying to defend the non-offside decision, both ex-players were adamant it had to be offside

How often does Gallagher not defend the referee?

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