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VinceHilaire London 14 Mar 23 7.39am
Originally posted by Elpis The way I see it is that we have a manager that fits with the programme . He has bought into the academy and the promotion of youth to the first team squad which will bare fruit in the years to come . Thats where we are , thats how we survive in a premier league where the richest clubs have become practically unbeatable with the 5 subs rule where they can change half their side with internationals even if we do occasionally get the tactics right to cause an upset We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come . No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is . agree with this - he certainly look’s determined to put things right - he is fully aware of our predicament
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London 14 Mar 23 7.39am

Originally posted by Elpis

The way I see it is that we have a manager that fits with the programme . He has bought into the academy and the promotion of youth to the first team squad which will bare fruit in the years to come .
Thats where we are , thats how we survive in a premier league where the richest clubs have become practically unbeatable with the 5 subs rule where they can change half their side with internationals even if we do occasionally get the tactics right to cause an upset

We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half

Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come .
No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is .

agree with this - he certainly look’s determined to put things right - he is fully aware of our predicament

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Dubai Eagle 14 Mar 23 7.40am
I am not a betting man but if I was my money would be on - PV to stay till the end of the season - also at the end of the season Steve Parish to be forced out in some boardroom power play, JT to become the dominant force in the boardroom, he appoints his own man in charge of the club (CEO) & PV job really depends upon did we finish the season in 12th or 17th & if he can make a reasonable presentation on how much better we would have done with a few more quality players (better investment) Originally posted by Nicholas91 I'm wondering, if there's no movement as of yet, whether it is a prediction of our results vs BHA (weds) and Arsenal (sun)? Hard to argue if so.
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14 Mar 23 7.40am

I am not a betting man but if I was my money would be on -
PV to stay till the end of the season - also at the end of the season Steve Parish to be forced out in some boardroom power play, JT to become the dominant force in the boardroom, he appoints his own man in charge of the club (CEO) & PV job really depends upon did we finish the season in 12th or 17th & if he can make a reasonable presentation on how much better we would have done with a few more quality players (better investment)

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'm wondering, if there's no movement as of yet, whether it is a prediction of our results vs BHA (weds) and Arsenal (sun)?

Hard to argue if so.

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Midlands Eagle 14 Mar 23 7.51am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle PV to stay till the end of the season - also at the end of the season Steve Parish to be forced out in some boardroom power play, JT to become the dominant force in the boardroom, Steve Parish to co-host a footie program on Talk Sport with Simon Jordan If your scenario comes to fruition much will depend on who is appointed as CEO as it would need to be someone who knows the ins and outs of the Premier League
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

PV to stay till the end of the season - also at the end of the season Steve Parish to be forced out in some boardroom power play, JT to become the dominant force in the boardroom,

Steve Parish to co-host a footie program on Talk Sport with Simon Jordan

If your scenario comes to fruition much will depend on who is appointed as CEO as it would need to be someone who knows the ins and outs of the Premier League

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Mar 23 7.54am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle I am not a betting man but if I was my money would be on - PV to stay till the end of the season - also at the end of the season Steve Parish to be forced out in some boardroom power play, JT to become the dominant force in the boardroom, he appoints his own man in charge of the club (CEO) & PV job really depends upon did we finish the season in 12th or 17th & if he can make a reasonable presentation on how much better we would have done with a few more quality players (better investment) Does not seem a bad bet. Whatever is going on/to happen my concern lies primarily with what's happening on the football pitch for now, and there's little hope there Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Mar 23 7.54am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Does not seem a bad bet.

Whatever is going on/to happen my concern lies primarily with what's happening on the football pitch for now, and there's little hope there

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Dubai Eagle 14 Mar 23 7.57am
I like the talk sport idea with SJ - Mark Bright could be a regular guest opinion - On the replacement CEO - (Again I know nothing) but I would wonder would JT risk to install someone (a yes man) from one of the other clubs he has invested in ? Or maybe he would have had the opportunity to identify someone from one of the PL meetings / proceedings - in any event its all just speculation. Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Steve Parish to co-host a footie program on Talk Sport with Simon Jordan If your scenario comes to fruition much will depend on who is appointed as CEO as it would need to be someone who knows the ins and outs of the Premier League
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14 Mar 23 7.57am

I like the talk sport idea with SJ - Mark Bright could be a regular guest opinion -

On the replacement CEO - (Again I know nothing) but I would wonder would JT risk to install someone (a yes man) from one of the other clubs he has invested in ?

Or maybe he would have had the opportunity to identify someone from one of the PL meetings / proceedings - in any event its all just speculation.

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Steve Parish to co-host a footie program on Talk Sport with Simon Jordan

If your scenario comes to fruition much will depend on who is appointed as CEO as it would need to be someone who knows the ins and outs of the Premier League

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Mar 23 8.40am
Originally posted by Elpis The way I see it is that we have a manager that fits with the programme . He has bought into the academy and the promotion of youth to the first team squad which will bare fruit in the years to come . Thats where we are , thats how we survive in a premier league where the richest clubs have become practically unbeatable with the 5 subs rule where they can change half their side with internationals even if we do occasionally get the tactics right to cause an upset We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come . No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is . When is the need to push it, 1,2,3,4,5 games without a win, i am off to bed now, toodleoo “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 14 Mar 23 8.40am

Originally posted by Elpis

We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half

Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come .
No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is .

When is the need to push it, 1,2,3,4,5 games without a win, i am off to bed now, toodleoo

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Elpis In a pub 14 Mar 23 10.11am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad When is the need to push it, 1,2,3,4,5 games without a win, i am off to bed now, toodleoo Sweet dreams Lanzo . Losing matches isn't as important as the way we lose them . We have managed to lose (bar Everton A) with our pride intact . And we still need a striker
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In a pub 14 Mar 23 10.11am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

When is the need to push it, 1,2,3,4,5 games without a win, i am off to bed now, toodleoo

Sweet dreams Lanzo .

Losing matches isn't as important as the way we lose them . We have managed to lose (bar Everton A) with our pride intact .

And we still need a striker

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CrazyBadger Ware 14 Mar 23 12.02pm
Originally posted by Elpis The way I see it is that we have a manager that fits with the programme . He has bought into the academy and the promotion of youth to the first team squad which will bare fruit in the years to come . Thats where we are , thats how we survive in a premier league where the richest clubs have become practically unbeatable with the 5 subs rule where they can change half their side with internationals even if we do occasionally get the tactics right to cause an upset We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come . No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is . This is My general view too. We are in a particularly bad Run of games at the moment, which beforehand we fared relatively well. Alas, that type of thinking (on the forums at least) seems to be pushed to the wayside. so i'm still Vieira In. The thing that really concerns me, however, is the manner in which we are playing the game and which we appear to be training. It seems (and I have no real evidence of this, apart from our performances on pitch) is that he is not overly concerned about players general fitness levels, and runs laid back - probably technique based training sessions. Now I'm not asking for a Bielsa-Style run your tits off/high energy training, but it strikes me that that could lead to a lackadaisical "It'll all come good soon" mentality, rather than a fighting one. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 14 Mar 23 12.02pm

Originally posted by Elpis

We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half

This is My general view too. We are in a particularly bad Run of games at the moment, which beforehand we fared relatively well. Alas, that type of thinking (on the forums at least) seems to be pushed to the wayside. so i'm still Vieira In.

The thing that really concerns me, however, is the manner in which we are playing the game and which we appear to be training. It seems (and I have no real evidence of this, apart from our performances on pitch) is that he is not overly concerned about players general fitness levels, and runs laid back - probably technique based training sessions.
Now I'm not asking for a Bielsa-Style run your tits off/high energy training, but it strikes me that that could lead to a lackadaisical "It'll all come good soon" mentality, rather than a fighting one.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 14 Mar 23 1.20pm
I am in the Vieira in camp. I want him to succeed and get the 'process' back on track to something similar to last season. However I do think if we are still in such a precarious position in the weeks ahead and we do make a change there has to be enough time available to the new manager to make an impact.
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Cambridge 14 Mar 23 1.20pm

I am in the Vieira in camp. I want him to succeed and get the 'process' back on track to something similar to last season. However I do think if we are still in such a precarious position in the weeks ahead and we do make a change there has to be enough time available to the new manager to make an impact.

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Eaglecoops CR3 14 Mar 23 1.34pm
Originally posted by Elpis The way I see it is that we have a manager that fits with the programme . He has bought into the academy and the promotion of youth to the first team squad which will bare fruit in the years to come . Thats where we are , thats how we survive in a premier league where the richest clubs have become practically unbeatable with the 5 subs rule where they can change half their side with internationals even if we do occasionally get the tactics right to cause an upset We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half Our record this season against teams in and around us (villa down) is decent W6 D1 L3 with a batch of games against these teams to come . No need to press the panic button , we are doing as well as can be expected in this division . Those who want to see free flowing football every game will have to accept relegation because its not going to happen playing against sides with uncountable recources at their disposal whoever our manager is . This is an easy post to like as it looks pragmatically at earlier results which are difficult to argue against. However, in my opinion we have played pretty much rubbish all season and a few of the successes we had were more than a tad fortunate. I have little faith in PV getting anything further out of this team which is a damn shame because I think the players are better than he is coaching them, but we live in hope.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 14 Mar 23 1.34pm

Originally posted by Elpis

We have to accept we will forever be in a mini league of the relegation battle ,its the results against the bottom half of the table teams that count not the top half

This is an easy post to like as it looks pragmatically at earlier results which are difficult to argue against. However, in my opinion we have played pretty much rubbish all season and a few of the successes we had were more than a tad fortunate. I have little faith in PV getting anything further out of this team which is a damn shame because I think the players are better than he is coaching them, but we live in hope.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 14 Mar 23 5.26pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The question is really about whether we risk the same negative tactics in the games against teams below us which are coming up soon, or whether we bring in someone else with fresh ideas. We have been so inept in front of goal recently that it must be a something that the board is considering. I don't care if Vieira is sacked or not, just as long as we stay up. What I would say is that I would have preferred it if Vieira had focused on the task of management instead of bleating about race quotas. Can you or anyone else shed light on this? What was said and what was the context? I must have missed it If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The question is really about whether we risk the same negative tactics in the games against teams below us which are coming up soon, or whether we bring in someone else with fresh ideas.

We have been so inept in front of goal recently that it must be a something that the board is considering.

I don't care if Vieira is sacked or not, just as long as we stay up.
What I would say is that I would have preferred it if Vieira had focused on the task of management instead of bleating about race quotas.

Can you or anyone else shed light on this? What was said and what was the context? I must have missed it

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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beak croydon 14 Mar 23 5.32pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig Can you or anyone else shed light on this? What was said and what was the context? I must have missed it You missed it!
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Can you or anyone else shed light on this? What was said and what was the context? I must have missed it

You missed it!

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