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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 04 Jul 23 9.51am
Originally posted by Matov The relationship between France and Algeria is far more complex and nuanced than anything the UK might have in terms of a 'colonial' understanding/relationship. Algeria was actually a part of France. The only potential comparison is say Gibralter. And even that is a piss poor example on a variety of levels, not least the fact that your average Gib is probably more pro-British than your average Brit. France has a different system for its overseas 'possessions'. Each, as you say, is actually part of France, so Reunion and others have the Euro as their currency, irrespective of their geographical location. Free movement is also part of the scenario, I think. In reality France's 'Empire' still exists and is spread worldwide, whereas Britain has a more arms length relationship with its territories. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Matov

The relationship between France and Algeria is far more complex and nuanced than anything the UK might have in terms of a 'colonial' understanding/relationship. Algeria was actually a part of France.

The only potential comparison is say Gibralter. And even that is a piss poor example on a variety of levels, not least the fact that your average Gib is probably more pro-British than your average Brit.

France has a different system for its overseas 'possessions'. Each, as you say, is actually part of France, so Reunion and others have the Euro as their currency, irrespective of their geographical location. Free movement is also part of the scenario, I think. In reality France's 'Empire' still exists and is spread worldwide, whereas Britain has a more arms length relationship with its territories.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 04 Jul 23 9.54am
Originally posted by Matov The relationship between France and Algeria is far more complex and nuanced than anything the UK might have in terms of a 'colonial' understanding/relationship. Algeria was actually a part of France. Southern Ireland was actually part of the UK.....for 700 years. Today only a tiny proportion of nutters support the 'RA. Irish people living in, say Croydon, will be expected to pay uk taxes, be law abiding, and support Palace. Some of us even cried when Lizzie died. Algerians in France must be expected to toe the line, play the game. Cos the alternative is only anarchy , bloodshed and tears. Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jul 2023 9.57am) Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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Originally posted by Matov

The relationship between France and Algeria is far more complex and nuanced than anything the UK might have in terms of a 'colonial' understanding/relationship. Algeria was actually a part of France.

Southern Ireland was actually part of the UK.....for 700 years.

Today only a tiny proportion of nutters support the 'RA. Irish people living in, say Croydon, will be expected to pay uk taxes, be law abiding, and support Palace. Some of us even cried when Lizzie died.

Algerians in France must be expected to toe the line, play the game. Cos the alternative is only anarchy , bloodshed and tears.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jul 2023 9.57am)

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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Matov 04 Jul 23 12.41pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Southern Ireland was actually part of the UK.....for 700 years. Today only a tiny proportion of nutters support the 'RA. Irish people living in, say Croydon, will be expected to pay uk taxes, be law abiding, and support Palace. Some of us even cried when Lizzie died. Algerians in France must be expected to toe the line, play the game. Cos the alternative is only anarchy , bloodshed and tears. Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jul 2023 9.57am) Ireland is a much better example than the one I gave. And you are right about how much the mood music has changed over the decades. But the ROI has had its independence for a little bit longer than Algeria so perhaps things might get better with time? But I fully agree with your last sentence. Question is, will the Left agree to play ball with that? Or just seek to stir it up for their own reasons? "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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04 Jul 23 12.41pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Southern Ireland was actually part of the UK.....for 700 years.

Algerians in France must be expected to toe the line, play the game. Cos the alternative is only anarchy , bloodshed and tears.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jul 2023 9.57am)

Ireland is a much better example than the one I gave. And you are right about how much the mood music has changed over the decades. But the ROI has had its independence for a little bit longer than Algeria so perhaps things might get better with time?

But I fully agree with your last sentence. Question is, will the Left agree to play ball with that? Or just seek to stir it up for their own reasons?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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