Unless Hodgson had instructed Eze to pluck the ball out of mid-air with the outside of his foot, score screamers with his left, and Olise to curl in volleys from outside of the box I'd suggest there's solid logic to say those players produced such moments off their own initiative/instinct and not instruction.

Players out of position, poor substitutions, a lack of aggression and combat in our play, dawdling and indecisiveness on the pitch, formations causing problems and lacking coherency, an inability to capitalise on set pieces, that's the manager. Improvised finishes, long range curlers and outside of the box volleys, that's individual talent.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

That'll be Roy's fault. The t***.

One of the bonuses is that it does suggest Hodgson is not committed to Clyne or Ward. With Richards playing poorly it should mean Munoz becomes first choice rather than have the rest of the season "getting up to speed". That is unless Hodgson gets the hump that Palace signed two players - neither of them named Phillips

Finally got to watch the whole match via Palace TV & apart from Roehampton's coverage stating at both HT/FT 0-1, i was impressed with JPM how he held up the ball & even tried to bring others into play & of course, had a hand(foot) in all 3 goals. Richards is not a RB, never has been, never will be, despite posters on here wanting him to play there instead of the 2 RB's we've got & why Clyne was on the bench, only Roy knows.

In Olise & Eze we have a once in a generation pair of players we will never see the like of again in a Palace shirt, lets hope their (reoccurring) hamstring injuries are not as bad as last time respectively. We need them both fit & firing on all cylinders for the rest of the season, so we won't be sucked right into the relegation mire.

As for corners, can't wait for a new manager to sort that problem out. Also, heading, what is it with our club, even the academy players hardly ever head the ball. Andersen is the only player that actually attacks the ball & get his head there, poor Mateta, if he was to jump & try to head the ball, he'd need oxygen when he got back to earth.

Think the rest of the season will be 'same-old, same-old' disbelieve, boring, nail-biting, squeaky bum times, with the odd joy & relief mixed in. Enjoy the rest of the season HOLer's.

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I suspect its somewhere in-between, but you are 100% right about our threat without out dynamic duo. With them we are likely to see some moments of brilliance. Without them they would be definitely be for the drop.

ok in a sort of Roy defence. Many people been asking for Richards at RB all season even after Ward got injured. Not me incidentally. Showed his limitations yesterday. But, why have a pop at Roy for doing what most people wanted.

Richards at CM was a last minute change as someone (maybe Schlupp) was taken ill just before the game. At WHU he did ok and i said afterwards away from home he could play a role. At home v Bournemouth it was clearly not going to work, and it didn't.

Schlupp has been woeful this season but what else could Roy do early season? Olise was injured for 4 months and no one was brought in. Maybe Ayew on the left and JRS on the right, but he had never played a Prem game so it would have been a big risk.
Who would you have played on the left?

Similarly when Hughes played at the head of 3 CMs we had Eze and Doucoure injured. Again we were struggling for alternatives.
Personally at that point i would have gone 442 but there were not many alternatives.

It's easy to complain without providing alternatives