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DANGERCLOSE london 14 Mar 24 10.32pm
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Matov 14 Mar 24 10.53pm
If Farage decides to lead from the front then it potentially could be a potential game changer. Would be worth an immediate 7 to 10% bump to Reform. But timing is everything. Suspect it will only happen, if at all, once an election is called. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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14 Mar 24 10.53pm

If Farage decides to lead from the front then it potentially could be a potential game changer. Would be worth an immediate 7 to 10% bump to Reform. But timing is everything. Suspect it will only happen, if at all, once an election is called.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Mar 24 11.44pm
Farage is popular but I’m not sure he would want to stand to become an MP again. He could campaign for them without running I suppose.
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Farage is popular but I’m not sure he would want to stand to become an MP again.

He could campaign for them without running I suppose.

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cROYdonrogers Leamington Spa 15 Mar 24 7.47am
Any strengthening of Reform will dilute the wanning Conservative vote. Either way Charlies Angels are in charge from later this year so lets just get used to it. Might even be ok, The problem is so many are unknowns in terms of there actual abilities as opposed to their playground behaviour in Parliament. Anyway if Farage joins in it will increase the entertainment. As one with no strong leanings I've never felt so apathetic.
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Leamington Spa 15 Mar 24 7.47am

Any strengthening of Reform will dilute the wanning Conservative vote. Either way Charlies Angels are in charge from later this year so lets just get used to it. Might even be ok, The problem is so many are unknowns in terms of there actual abilities as opposed to their playground behaviour in Parliament.
Anyway if Farage joins in it will increase the entertainment. As one with no strong leanings I've never felt so apathetic.

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Matov 15 Mar 24 8.35am
Originally posted by cROYdonrogers As one with no strong leanings I've never felt so apathetic. Which I am beginning to think is part of the plan. Because when people are heavily invested in voting you get the likes of Corybn polling 40% in 2017 and then Johnson securing an 80-seat majority in 2019. Now I am as guilty as anybody in this. Never felt so disgusted with our current Government and based on a recent HMG definition would now be categorized as an extremist because I want to see the entire structure rendered obsolete and something brand new installed. But there is simply no valid option. Even voting Reform offers nothing much beyond registering a protest vote. We are all being played and Starmer represents the very worst of our current political system but ultimately, a US State Department stooge, much like Sunak. We are effectively an occupied nation. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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15 Mar 24 8.35am

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

As one with no strong leanings I've never felt so apathetic.

Which I am beginning to think is part of the plan. Because when people are heavily invested in voting you get the likes of Corybn polling 40% in 2017 and then Johnson securing an 80-seat majority in 2019.

Now I am as guilty as anybody in this. Never felt so disgusted with our current Government and based on a recent HMG definition would now be categorized as an extremist because I want to see the entire structure rendered obsolete and something brand new installed.

But there is simply no valid option. Even voting Reform offers nothing much beyond registering a protest vote.

We are all being played and Starmer represents the very worst of our current political system but ultimately, a US State Department stooge, much like Sunak. We are effectively an occupied nation.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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silvertop Portishead 15 Mar 24 9.15am
I dunno, plenty of options out here. I might vote the Green (But No Way Raise the Price of Petrol) Party. Or the Stop the Rain and Drain the Levels Party. Or the North Somerset Caliphate Party. Or the Portishead, Clevedon and Nailsea NAZI Party. Or the Bolshevik Smash the State and Optimize Country Rambling Party...
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Portishead 15 Mar 24 9.15am

I dunno, plenty of options out here.

I might vote the Green (But No Way Raise the Price of Petrol) Party.
Or the Stop the Rain and Drain the Levels Party.
Or the North Somerset Caliphate Party.
Or the Portishead, Clevedon and Nailsea NAZI Party.
Or the Bolshevik Smash the State and Optimize Country Rambling Party...

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 24 10.19am
Farage would be a significant improvement to Tice. Tice is essentially Tory lite.....went along with all the major decisions that led us here...He even accepts some of the woke stuff....He needs to go. Farage went along with Covid response but has since recognised the dishonesty that came with it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Mar 24 10.19am

Farage would be a significant improvement to Tice.

Tice is essentially Tory lite.....went along with all the major decisions that led us here...He even accepts some of the woke stuff....He needs to go.

Farage went along with Covid response but has since recognised the dishonesty that came with it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 24 10.27am
If conservativism is to have a future worthy of the word it needs to start rejecting all of the prior concessions it made to the left. Stop validating accusations of 'racism', stop validating gender and trans ideology. Stop acting like feminism is positive. This means being the opposite of our institutions and government. Reject most of social liberalism and replace it with traditional British social conservativism. The current Tories have played the uniparty game....they have introduced all the speech and thought restrictions....supported the Ofcoms and the Hope Not Hates and other NGOs who are specifically against conservativism. They have fed the crocodile and they are reaping the rewards of rejection from their own voters. If the right doesn't start defending social conservativism and rejecting liberalism then they will lose the country as they know it....Unless that is done they won't even have a community within the country that doesn't work against them. What you won't defend you will lose. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2024 10.32am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Mar 24 10.27am

If conservativism is to have a future worthy of the word it needs to start rejecting all of the prior concessions it made to the left.

Stop validating accusations of 'racism', stop validating gender and trans ideology. Stop acting like feminism is positive. This means being the opposite of our institutions and government.

Reject most of social liberalism and replace it with traditional British social conservativism.

The current Tories have played the uniparty game....they have introduced all the speech and thought restrictions....supported the Ofcoms and the Hope Not Hates and other NGOs who are specifically against conservativism.

They have fed the crocodile and they are reaping the rewards of rejection from their own voters.

If the right doesn't start defending social conservativism and rejecting liberalism then they will lose the country as they know it....Unless that is done they won't even have a community within the country that doesn't work against them.

What you won't defend you will lose.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2024 10.32am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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silvertop Portishead 15 Mar 24 10.42am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays If conservativism is to have a future worthy of the word it needs to start rejecting all of the prior concessions it made to the left. Stop validating accusations of 'racism', stop validating gender and trans ideology. Stop acting like feminism is positive. This means being the opposite of our institutions and government. Reject most of social liberalism and replace it with traditional British social conservativism. The current Tories have played the uniparty game....they have introduced all the speech and thought restrictions....supported the Ofcoms and the Hope Not Hates and other NGOs who are specifically against conservativism. They have fed the crocodile and they are reaping the rewards of rejection from their own voters. If the right doesn't start defending social conservativism and rejecting liberalism then they will lose the country as they know it....Unless that is done they won't even have a community within the country that doesn't work against them. What you won't defend you will lose. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2024 10.32am) I do think the points you make are important... as is the lying to parliament and the public, the double standards, incumbent fatigue, the absence of any rallying call to get something done, a myriad of sleaze, and the economy in the khasi with nobody with a pot to pi$$ in.
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Portishead 15 Mar 24 10.42am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If conservativism is to have a future worthy of the word it needs to start rejecting all of the prior concessions it made to the left.

Stop validating accusations of 'racism', stop validating gender and trans ideology. Stop acting like feminism is positive. This means being the opposite of our institutions and government.

Reject most of social liberalism and replace it with traditional British social conservativism.

They have fed the crocodile and they are reaping the rewards of rejection from their own voters.

What you won't defend you will lose.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2024 10.32am)

I do think the points you make are important... as is the lying to parliament and the public, the double standards, incumbent fatigue, the absence of any rallying call to get something done, a myriad of sleaze, and the economy in the khasi with nobody with a pot to pi$$ in.

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 24 10.50am
Originally posted by silvertop I do think the points you make are important... as is the lying to parliament and the public, the double standards, incumbent fatigue, the absence of any rallying call to get something done, a myriad of sleaze, and the economy in the khasi with nobody with a pot to pi$$ in. I couldn't have put it better myself. It's a sorry state of affairs. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Mar 24 10.50am

Originally posted by silvertop

I couldn't have put it better myself.

It's a sorry state of affairs.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Matov 15 Mar 24 11.03am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I couldn't have put it better myself. It's a sorry state of affairs. All works for me as well. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

15 Mar 24 11.03am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I couldn't have put it better myself.

It's a sorry state of affairs.

All works for me as well.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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