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View -TUX-'s Profile -TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 19 May 16 9.42am Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

By the same people that were behind 9/11 and the moon landing?

Nah, just 9/11.

 


Time to move forward together.

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 19 May 16 9.48am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by crystal balls

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Tony Blair's speech writer, who also happened to be lead author of "the" immigration speech by Barbara Roche (then Minister of Immigration) that opened up the floodgates:

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Claims subsequently verified via a 2010 Freedom of Information request of draft copies of the policy paper, referring extensively to "social objectives" that did not appear in the final copy. The stated aims of the paper are to make the UK "multicultural" via mass migration, but to obfuscate from the public the reasons why they were opening the floodgates. Your denial is living testament to that aim.

I don't even know why I'm bothering. Left-wing multiculties are deaf to evidence, and blind to the effects. Let's all sit down and sing kumbaya.


I think the point of this has somehow eluded you; it matters not what some Evening Standard journalist wrote in 2009, in 2016 there are clearly not enough old white men who want Britain out of the EU to carry the referendum for Brexit, so to broaden their appeal to the voters they put a younger, articulate black woman on the panel next to Farage. He then bangs on about "rubbing our noses in multi-culturalism"; at a stroke alienating thousands if not millions of the people they are trying to appeal to.

Further, Ms Mitchell then called him out saying "this has been the problem with people of ethnic diversity voting leave"

Farage shot most of his toes off in the run up to the general election; now most of his left foot is gone. Soon he won't have a leg to stand on!


Edited by crystal balls (19 May 2016 6.46am)

Indeed it matters not what the ES said, nor (evidently) the chief speechwriter for New Labour said of the policy.

All that matters is Nigel Farage repeated (almost verbatim) those same words. That then permits people like you to not only dogpile onto him, but conveniently conflate "diversity" with "there is a black women sat next to you".

This is exactly why Labour was, and remains fcuked. Election results have demonstrated they have alienated their core vote, and the North are abandoning Labour in droves. Who needs to shoot off your foot, when you've stepped on a landmine.

Finally, to the point. I've not watched a single debate in this run up, where remain have been polled as winning it. Point me to some - I've been disappointed with their level of debate this far, as have the audience. Is the Mirror debate online in full yet? To the chagrin of the Mirror it was polled as a leave victory, but presumably under a somewhat select audience. I would be really interested to see the Remain argument put forward in debate well enough that it had swayed the audience. If you know of one, link appreciated.

 

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Hoof Hearted 19 May 16 10.05am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Latest Mori poll: 1,000 randomly asked

Remain a member of the European Union: 48%

Leave the European Union: 35%

Undecided: 14%

Would not vote:3%

I make that 65% idiots/potential idiots according to monkeychops and 35% the enlightened, sensible brave new world few also according to monkeychops.


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Edited by Kermit8 (18 May 2016 10.05pm)

You really seem to have lost it latelyMichael.

Referring to Dave as monkeychops?

He's shown you up in a straight forward questions and answers debate, so now you try to discredit him by calling him childish names!

Come on mate... get a grip and debate like an adult, as you used to do.

This is sad to see.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 10.52am

the most important decision in your life, this is a must watch [Link]

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 10.58am

We are now subjects of a vastly complex state machine run by anonymous officials whom we didn't elect but have the power to impose on us, laws we haven't debated and have no demographic means of appealing. The whole EU state is anti-demographic

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 May 16 11.11am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

If you want for yourself/children/grandchildren etc etc further moves into a European "Super state" with GB a mere "State", increased diktats from the EU affecting governance of our country, increased and uncontrolled migration from an ever expanding EU affecting our education/health/housing systems etc etc then vote "Remain".Yes I could go on and on but I will leave it at this !

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 May 16 11.12am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

By the same people that were behind 9/11 and the moon landing?

No, more like Kennedy's election in 1960.

And it's far easier to rig a referendum than a General Election - ask the Scots and the Irish.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 19 May 16 11.22am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If you want for yourself/children/grandchildren etc etc further moves into a European "Super state" with GB a mere "State", increased diktats from the EU affecting governance of our country, increased and uncontrolled migration from an ever expanding EU affecting our education/health/housing systems etc etc then vote "Remain".Yes I could go on and on but I will leave it at this !


Excellent. Remain it is.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 12.09pm

Anyone that votes to stay in will one day wake up and say to themselves, what the hell have I done!
I now realise that yes the politicians are all just puppets controlled by oligarchy families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
Who also control the courts, the educational institutions, the food, the natural resources, the foreign policies, the economies and the money of most nations. And, control the major media, which is why I know nothing about them.

People voting in are scared, weak sheep who are unable to fathom life without someone holding their hand. They believe that when they get a parking ticket, they deserved it and, isn't it good that if they pay with 14 days, only have to pay half the amount.
People voting in have no spine or drive or inspiration. They are happy to go through our ridiculous education system that force stops you at the age of 5 to be a free thinker, pounds the left side of your brain 5 days a week with useless crap. Until one day you hear your master say 'girls and boys you have 2 hours to complete this paper, please pick up your pen'. At which point you are suppose to spew out the crap you've been fed on to the paper. If you do it well, you get rewarded, and mummy thinks you are very clever and thinks you will be rewarded with a good job. But the truth is it's not a good job and they are just get stuck on a ferries wheel..

However, if you are truly bright and able to think for yourself you will find you can win fights, lead teams, create wealth and happiness.
We have some great freethinkers very close to us at the club, Parish, Browett, Martin Long to name a few - All intelligent men who are able to take on the world without mummy holding their hands.

So you decide, vote in if your a mummys boy, scared to challenge anything in your boring life. Or vote out if you truly want make a positive change for future generations and allow people to think freely and live independent lives.

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 May 16 12.33pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Anyone that votes to stay in will one day wake up and say to themselves, what the hell have I done!
I now realise that yes the politicians are all just puppets controlled by oligarchy families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
Who also control the courts, the educational institutions, the food, the natural resources, the foreign policies, the economies and the money of most nations. And, control the major media, which is why I know nothing about them.

People voting in are scared, weak sheep who are unable to fathom life without someone holding their hand. They believe that when they get a parking ticket, they deserved it and, isn't it good that if they pay with 14 days, only have to pay half the amount.
People voting in have no spine or drive or inspiration. They are happy to go through our ridiculous education system that force stops you at the age of 5 to be a free thinker, pounds the left side of your brain 5 days a week with useless crap. Until one day you hear your master say 'girls and boys you have 2 hours to complete this paper, please pick up your pen'. At which point you are suppose to spew out the crap you've been fed on to the paper. If you do it well, you get rewarded, and mummy thinks you are very clever and thinks you will be rewarded with a good job. But the truth is it's not a good job and they are just get stuck on a ferries wheel..

However, if you are truly bright and able to think for yourself you will find you can win fights, lead teams, create wealth and happiness.
We have some great freethinkers very close to us at the club, Parish, Browett, Martin Long to name a few - All intelligent men who are able to take on the world without mummy holding their hands.

So you decide, vote in if your a mummys boy, scared to challenge anything in your boring life. Or vote out if you truly want make a positive change for future generations and allow people to think freely and live independent lives.

'Vote out, or you're a mummy's boy' - a true classic.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 12.46pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

'Vote out, or you're a mummy's boy' - a true classic.

If you are under 30 it's too late, you will vote in as you've already been brainwashed. No one can help you I'm afraid your lives are over. Like the Manic Street Preachers said: "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next"

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 May 16 12.50pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

If you are under 30 it's too late, you will vote in as you've already been brainwashed. No one can help you I'm afraid your lives are over. Like the Manic Street Preachers said: "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next"

Damn.

 

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