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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 18 Jun 17 6.12pm

I have my reservations about parish, but at the end of the day, he put his money where his mouth is.


One thing i do wish he would improve on - this is just my personal view - i wish he gave updates, clear, concise points so that bored fans don't go stir crazy.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 17 6.15pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

Round of applause for someone who doesn't know the story. I got told to f off for being a c you next Tuesday because my views wernt the same as others. This guy already had a yellow and got off Scot free.


Edited by steven_t92 (18 Jun 2017 4.58pm)

Bit grassy that.

 


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steven_t92 Flag Orpington 18 Jun 17 6.21pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Bit grassy that.

It was intended to be, the mod chose to ignore me when I pointed that out. Never had a strike against me since I first joined the forum, yet one swear word and I'm yellow carded. Yet someone who was already on a yellow, who therefore had previous, was completely ignored.

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 18 Jun 17 6.52pm

Originally posted by Vaibow

I have my reservations about parish, but at the end of the day, he put his money where his mouth is.

One thing i do wish he would improve on - this is just my personal view - i wish he gave updates, clear, concise points so that bored fans don't go stir crazy.

He did. But he got it all back when lowering his shareholding and more plus he still owns 18%. He is a fantastic businessman and not a bad chairman but not excellent either. The yardstick is would we name a new stand after him like we did the most deserving Arthur Wait?

Nah.

 


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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 18 Jun 17 10.26pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

He did. But he got it all back when lowering his shareholding and more plus he still owns 18%. He is a fantastic businessman and not a bad chairman but not excellent either. The yardstick is would we name a new stand after him like we did the most deserving Arthur Wait?

Nah.

I agree and i knew someone would mention it, quite rightly, always rumours about him letting it go to the wire to maximize profits.

Thing is, that's good business, it isn't always 'morally' right, Jordan complained and still feels bitter it seems, but it is like that, cut throat. As we all know.

I think with parish, he has been here a while, but there is something about him, i cannot pin point, or describe that makes me feel unsure of him - it could just be listening to rumours and what not, but i do honestly feel he is a businessman first, fan second, a very close second.

Where as the rest, you kinda admired their naivety in being a fan first - but look how it ended up.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 6.11am

Originally posted by Kermit8

He did. But he got it all back when lowering his shareholding and more plus he still owns 18%. He is a fantastic businessman and not a bad chairman but not excellent either.

That has long been my view too. He did rescue the club and put money into it but it was all fully secured so that if the project went tits up he would get his money back.

His investment has made him a much richer man than he already was and to top it all he gets paid £600,000 plus per year for being chairman which to put it into a different context is about the same as 30 nurses

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 19 Jun 17 7.41am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That has long been my view too. He did rescue the club and put money into it but it was all fully secured so that if the project went tits up he would get his money back.

His investment has made him a much richer man than he already was and to top it all he gets paid £600,000 plus per year for being chairman which to put it into a different context is about the same as 30 nurses


I agree with you and the post to which you responded. Promotion clearly sweetened the deal, but the original four weren't slow to cash out some of their profit, which is fine, but to portray Parish as an altruistic white knight (in the Tony Bloom mould) is way off the mark.

If Parish were to sell out his share tomorrow, what would be his legacy? Nothing of significance has been done with the club's infrastructure and nor would it seem that anything will be for the foreseeable future. He's been able to get the right managers in at the right time to save our arse, but two walked unexpectedly and the other one took leave of his senses. He's been good at managing the cash, albeit we've obtained credit secured against our future TV income. He's been a good chairman so far, but not yet one of the greats.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 19 Jun 17 2.38pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That has long been my view too. He did rescue the club and put money into it but it was all fully secured so that if the project went tits up he would get his money back.

His investment has made him a much richer man than he already was and to top it all he gets paid £600,000 plus per year for being chairman which to put it into a different context is about the same as 30 nurses

30 nurses or less than a lowly squad player earns is a better context. I fail to see why Parish is constantly knocked on here, we all know he is a businessman and a successful one at that. Jordan drove the club into the ground, he got lucky with his phone shops, but showed he couldn't run a football club. It's not an easy job.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 19 Jun 17 2.41pm

Originally posted by Painter

30 nurses or less than a lowly squad player earns is a better context. I fail to see why Parish is constantly knocked on here, we all know he is a businessman and a successful one at that. Jordan drove the club into the ground, he got lucky with his phone shops, but showed he couldn't run a football club. It's not an easy job.

Maybe a team of 30 nurses would have hired a new manager by now. It's getting ridiculous now.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 3.38pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Maybe a team of 30 nurses would have hired a new manager by now. It's getting ridiculous now.

My wife is a nurse and I'm sure that she and her colleagues would have gone for Marco Silva as he's the best looking from the prospect list

 

Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 19 Jun 17 3.55pm

Originally posted by bexleydave


I agree with you and the post to which you responded. Promotion clearly sweetened the deal, but the original four weren't slow to cash out some of their profit, which is fine, but to portray Parish as an altruistic white knight (in the Tony Bloom mould) is way off the mark.

If Parish were to sell out his share tomorrow, what would be his legacy? Nothing of significance has been done with the club's infrastructure and nor would it seem that anything will be for the foreseeable future. He's been able to get the right managers in at the right time to save our arse, but two walked unexpectedly and the other one took leave of his senses. He's been good at managing the cash, albeit we've obtained credit secured against our future TV income. He's been a good chairman so far, but not yet one of the greats.

Whilst I agree with the vast majority of this - that last sentence, I think, doesn't do him complete justice - he's certainly the best chairman we've had since I've been a Palace fan (Noades onwards).

What benchmark are you setting as "great" - & billionaires who've made their dough out of fleecing their nation's natural resources don't count in my book.

The problem with infrastructure investment is that Palace - like a lot of clubs similarly sized - don't have the cash to improve infrastructure without the riches of Premiership status BUT that status itself then triggers a "NHS-type" drain on revenue - because any manager worth his salt is going to demand an ever- increasing war chest in order to "compete".

I feel a bit sorry for SP - I think he wants to improve the infrastructure, but the reality is that there is no spare £££ once the playing squad investment requirements of staying in the prem are deducted.

 

Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 19 Jun 17 4.36pm

Originally posted by Painter

30 nurses or less than a lowly squad player earns is a better context. I fail to see why Parish is constantly knocked on here, we all know he is a businessman and a successful one at that. Jordan drove the club into the ground, he got lucky with his phone shops, but showed he couldn't run a football club. It's not an easy job.

We agree again.

 


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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 19 Jun 17 5.12pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

It always makes me smile to see fans here who think parish is beyond any reproach. He was instrumental in saving this football club from the abyss, and this cannot be forgotten ever, but it doesn't give the guy a blank cheque to do anything without people engaging in what this entire site is supposed to be about - debate of his actions and anyone else holding the keys to this club's success. Why could pulis have long and successful relationships with other chairman but not parish? I get he is a massive tool and a total liar but why did that side of him not come out at stoke? Why did allardyce out of the blue, decide to end his entire career? Who else would have hired warlock? Who else would have not fired Holloway, the guy had to beg to leave the club. Something fishy is going on with parish and his relationships with managers, and is anyone aware that this might mean managing our club is becoming less and less attractive? Now we are more than 3 weeks since SA left and still no manager. Transfers are happening at other clubs and we are on hold. This is unsettling certain players too no doubt and its just schoolboy stuff to take this long to hire a manager. Do other clubs take 3 weeks plus to make a hire?

I presume this is intended as a wind up?

If not, where would you like to start? Maybe we'll go chronologically then:

Pulis has had a reputation for years & every club he's been at where he didn't get his own way he's left under a financial cloud - just ask Gillingham, Portsmouth or Bristol City fans. He really isn't the 'nice chap' his cronies in the media would like to portray him as - two different judges have confirmed this.

Pardew was next & here we have a situation where a large number of fans are adamant SP wasn't involved enough & gave him far too long due to (what turned out to be) a misguided sense of loyalty.

Sam was brought in as he was the right man for the job at hand. The length of the contract enabled the Club time needed to rebuild both at the front end and behind the scenes. I happen to believe the (published) story that the loss of a close friend was the cause of his change of heart and I fully support his decision on that basis.

It is improbable that SP could have foreseen Sam going, especially as Sam had stated in one of his last interviews that transfers were already targeted and a list agreed - his resignation meeting was originally intended to prioritise those & agree a plan of action.

SP is far from perfect but I can't think of another EPL chairman I'd want at Palace & all this 'controlling ' stuff seems pure speculation despite evidence to the contrary.

We'd all like to have a manager appointed & be all over transfers but having the right man and a plan is critical.

Edited by Nobbybm (19 Jun 2017 5.13pm)

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 19 Jun 17 5.21pm

Originally posted by Dancer Cat

Whilst I agree with the vast majority of this - that last sentence, I think, doesn't do him complete justice - he's certainly the best chairman we've had since I've been a Palace fan (Noades onwards).

What benchmark are you setting as "great" - & billionaires who've made their dough out of fleecing their nation's natural resources don't count in my book.

The problem with infrastructure investment is that Palace - like a lot of clubs similarly sized - don't have the cash to improve infrastructure without the riches of Premiership status BUT that status itself then triggers a "NHS-type" drain on revenue - because any manager worth his salt is going to demand an ever- increasing war chest in order to "compete".

I feel a bit sorry for SP - I think he wants to improve the infrastructure, but the reality is that there is no spare £££ once the playing squad investment requirements of staying in the prem are deducted.

You are bang on which begs the question what is the point of us being in the super-rich Prem beyond seeing better players at Selhurst? Because as sure as Theresa May is a sh1te PM it's just as clear we will end up back in The Champ one day and with a highly-salaried squad and having seen a turnover approaching over a billion pounds if we survive another three seasons.

With that amount of dosh I find it very difficult not to put SP under scrutiny and looking at the bigger picture where he is likely to have failed the club.

Even if just £15mill per season had been ring-fenced for restructuring and refurbishment that would equate to nearly £100mill by now. Why he hasn't only he knows.

Bet even the cladding is dodgy.

 


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chateauferret Flag 19 Jun 17 6.47pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My wife is a nurse and I'm sure that she and her colleagues would have gone for Marco Silva as he's the best looking from the prospect list

If that we the criterion then in this house we would have ended up with Mourinho and gone bankrupt five minutes later.

 


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Sportyteacher Flag London 19 Jun 17 7.07pm

Must go...and join a diocese?

 

Lombardos barber Flag 19 Jun 17 7.14pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

You are bang on which begs the question what is the point of us being in the super-rich Prem beyond seeing better players at Selhurst? Because as sure as Theresa May is a sh1te PM it's just as clear we will end up back in The Champ one day and with a highly-salaried squad and having seen a turnover approaching over a billion pounds if we survive another three seasons.

With that amount of dosh I find it very difficult not to put SP under scrutiny and looking at the bigger picture where he is likely to have failed the club.

Even if just £15mill per season had been ring-fenced for restructuring and refurbishment that would equate to nearly £100mill by now. Why he hasn't only he knows.

Bet even the cladding is dodgy.

Ridiculous comments.

The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for.

It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation.

We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand.

 

kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 19 Jun 17 7.29pm

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

Ridiculous comments.

The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for.

It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation.

We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand.

To be fair, some of why Anfield took so long was previous ownership (Hicks and Gillett) flirting with building a new stadium and their subsequent financial shenanigans. You are correct that Palace have had a long road to hoe with trying to gain approval for their plans and deal with Sainsbury's who are not all that fired interested.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Jun 17 8.07pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That has long been my view too. He did rescue the club and put money into it but it was all fully secured so that if the project went tits up he would get his money back.

His investment has made him a much richer man than he already was and to top it all he gets paid £600,000 plus per year for being chairman which to put it into a different context is about the same as 30 nurses

Now there's a thought. 30 nurses would certainly keep the team happy. Ooh, those starchy uniforms

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Jun 17 8.12am

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

Ridiculous comments.

The money is in place for the new stand. That is what the US investment was primarily for.

It is not money, it is a small matter of the law / regulation.

We do not live in a banana republic and cannot just build a massive building just because we are a Premier League club without doing it correctly. Look it up... Google planning regulations... alternatively, have a look at why Liverpool (a large football club) took years and years to build their new Main Stand.

Explain then why we haven't got state of the art training facilities, a flourishing youth academy, no proper scouting network here or abroad, and why the interior of the AW is so goddamn awful. It's not just about a shiny new stand.

 


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