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 Midlands Eagle Online  12 Mar 23 6.47am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Lineker is not an employee. He is a freelancer on a contract. None of us know what that contract says. There is a difference of opinion on what the rules about impartiality mean. Greg Dyke says they only apply to the area of your own speciality. So news and current affairs presenters should not make public political comment in their private capacity as well as on air, to ensure the BBC not only is, but is seen to be, impartial. Dyke says those rules don't apply to others, including sports presenters. Which is bourne out by the behaviour of others in the past. What Dyke said may have been true in his day but the BBC rules on impartiality have been tightened up since then due to what is sometimes referred to as the Lineker Effect after his past indiscretions
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 12 Mar 23 6.48am |
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Lineker strikes me as the sort of virtue-signalling person, sitting happily in his gated community ivory-tower, whilst happy for the rest of the country to suffer the direct consequences of unregulated immigration.
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| Midlands Eagle Online 12 Mar 23 6.49am |
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Originally posted by m/k mick
Ask one question, and answer honestly, if Lineker had expressed an opinion, similar to J K Rowling, about trans gender or LBQT, what would be the opinion of the people who today are supporting him, hypocrites In all honestly my guess is that the vast majority of the population couldn't care less about transgender or LBQT issues
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| Midlands Eagle Online 12 Mar 23 6.52am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
How xenophobic of the working classes not to appreciate the multi-culturalism of having convicted criminals coming into the UK unchecked, creating a massive societal burden, in terms of housing, financial strain on benefits and increased crime. Tongue in cheek maybe but that is precisely the problem as it is the working classes who understand the problems created by illegal immigration whilst the chattering classes pontificate on Twitter and the BBS on problems that don't actually affect them
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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 12 Mar 23 6.57am |
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BBC reaping what it has sown. A public broadcaster's version of go woke, go broke. Edited by HKOwen (13 Mar 2023 5.02pm)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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cryrst  The garden of England 12 Mar 23 7.07am |
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Originally posted by inflikted
If they had done that immediately then it would still be hypocritical given what they allow their right wing presenters to say, but may have been easier to explain. The fact they were willing to let it die down until hard right MPs complained to the Tory stooges in charge of the BBC that they had sudden heel turn, is the problem. And now Rishi is desperately backpedalling and trying to distance the government from it because it's backfired and they've been found out. Hard right MPs. And your definition of hard right would be ?
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| georgenorman 12 Mar 23 7.16am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This has nothing at all to do with any "group of celebrities promoting the idea that we can just have unlimited immigration into this country". Firstly because no-one actually believes that. More importantly, even they did, it's not about that. What are your objections to unlimited immigration? Are you going to answer this - he who responds to every post? Edited by georgenorman (12 Mar 2023 7.16am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 12 Mar 23 7.40am |
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Originally posted by inflikted
"illegal immigration" (no refugees are illegal under international law) is actually down compared to how it was 20 years ago Economic migrants entering the UK without documentation are illegal entrants. Not sure where you get your figures from. The only possible explanation for it being down is that the main stream media etc insist on calling all illegal entrants “asylum seekers “ Edited by Spiderman (12 Mar 2023 7.44am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 12 Mar 23 7.49am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
What Dyke said may have been true in his day but the BBC rules on impartiality have been tightened up since then due to what is sometimes referred to as the Lineker Effect after his past indiscretions I never thought I would feel sorry for the BBC management but Samson is trying to pull down the temple. Lineker is a first class sh*t for putting the BBC in an untenable position they are dammed if they sanction him and dammed if they don't. He knew what he was doing and seems quite gleeful about it. The issue for me and I suspect the BBC has now moved on from Gary to who actually runs the BBC them or Gary and his football mates. The lunatics cannot be allowed to run the asylum. I suspect that the BBC will cave in which will only encourage the likes of me to demand an end to the licence fee, a pyrrhic victory for Gary and his chums. As for the argument that he is a freelancer this doesn't hold water ask HMRC they are currently in conflict with Gary and a few others over this. According to his supporters the BBC employs Gary's company not him well if that is true the why doesn't other employees of Gary's firm appear on MOTD? You call Pimlico Plumbers you don't get Gary Mullins you get whoever is available. Gary has worked for the BBC for around 20 years not as a stand in when someone is on holiday but as their key sports presenter he is a de facto BBC employee. Whatever happens here I think the BBC will come out of this badly and is yet another nail in their coffin all because he thinks his rights trumps everybody else. If you want free speech Gary join one of the other broadcasters who know doubt will be delighted to hear the political wisdom of a pampered ex footballer who happily takes money from dodgy regimes.
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| Midlands Eagle Online 12 Mar 23 8.49am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I never thought I would feel sorry for the BBC management but Samson is trying to pull down the temple. Lineker is a first class sh*t for putting the BBC in an untenable position they are dammed if they sanction him and dammed if they don't. He knew what he was doing and seems quite gleeful about it. The issue for me and I suspect the BBC has now moved on from Gary to who actually runs the BBC them or Gary and his football mates. The lunatics cannot be allowed to run the asylum. I suspect that the BBC will cave in which will only encourage the likes of me to demand an end to the licence fee, a pyrrhic victory for Gary and his chums. As for the argument that he is a freelancer this doesn't hold water ask HMRC they are currently in conflict with Gary and a few others over this. According to his supporters the BBC employs Gary's company not him well if that is true the why doesn't other employees of Gary's firm appear on MOTD? You call Pimlico Plumbers you don't get Gary Mullins you get whoever is available. Gary has worked for the BBC for around 20 years not as a stand in when someone is on holiday but as their key sports presenter he is a de facto BBC employee. Whatever happens here I think the BBC will come out of this badly and is yet another nail in their coffin all because he thinks his rights trumps everybody else. If you want free speech Gary join one of the other broadcasters who know doubt will be delighted to hear the political wisdom of a pampered ex footballer who happily takes money from dodgy regimes. Agreed
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 12 Mar 23 9.08am |
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What I dislike most about this whole sordid affair is Lineker's look of smug, self satisfaction yesterday after apparently garnering so much support and causing such havoc with the sporting output of the BBC.
Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled. |
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 12 Mar 23 9.21am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe it's you who is on drugs! What he actually said was that the government are pursuing an:- "immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s". That's not comparing us to the Third Reich. He thinks the policy is cruel and goes on to describe the language being used. The rhetoric and xenophobic terminology. Not about the people or their politics. Just the language. They are fair points, which are worth discussion, despite what you and Braverman think, or whether anyone else agrees or not. It's an opinion. In a free country we thrive on opinions. This could have been cleared up quite easily if Gary had stepped back and apologised for any offence he may have caused to those who are associated with the German’s actions during the 1930’s. But he didn’t. He has an air of smug superiority that he is always right and therefore no apology is due. Clarkson had the good grace to do so, as have several others who have inadvertently caused offence. But I think Gary designed his comments to be controversial; as such he should reap the ‘benefits’ of his words.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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