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View twist's Profile twist Flag Miami, Florida 17 Jun 18 5.25am Send a Private Message to twist Add twist as a friend

So i have watched all the game except Russia/Saudi Arabia.

France got a VAR decision in their favour, and rightly so.
But Argentina had a definate penalty that did not get VAR'd, as did Peru early on in their game.
Both times, replays show absolute penalty.

So, begs the question, what are those 6 guys in ref shirts in front of TV's behind the dugout actually doing ?

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Jun 18 7.04am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by twist

So i have watched all the game except Russia/Saudi Arabia.

France got a VAR decision in their favour, and rightly so.
But Argentina had a definate penalty that did not get VAR'd, as did Peru early on in their game.
Both times, replays show absolute penalty.

So, begs the question, what are those 6 guys in ref shirts in front of TV's behind the dugout actually doing ?

They are doing what is typical of all football officialdom; they are demonstrating incompetence.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Jun 18 10.44am

I think the idea is that the ref has ultimate control as they always have done, VAR is only there if the ref did not see an incident clearly enough and needs a second opinion.

I don't wanna see some nobody behind a screen making refereeing decisions, the France penalty was contentious even with VAR so it should be up to the ref, you can't have conflicting opinions

Also I see alot of players remonstrating with refs to look at the replays, that's a road we don't wanna go down, if the ref didn't have the ultimate say, you would see it more often I feel?

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 17 Jun 18 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

The biggest gripe I've got about it (until England play no doubt) is the inconsistencies of what people call it. It's V. A. R., not var you pleb Rio Ferdinand.

They both got a penalty anyway, and both missed them, so no big deal. I don't think Argentina should've had one if it's the supposed handball you're referring to?

 


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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 17 Jun 18 4.00pm Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Milovojevic slapped in the face intentionally. reviewed by VAR, no action. 2 mins later Serbia played barely touches a guys face in play. VAR- booking . No sense

 

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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 17 Jun 18 6.36pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Maybe the players and their feigning and simulation have to take some of the blame? I am convinced that a lot of players practice "being fouled" and "self fouling" to win a penalty. Ronaldo v Spain: in my opinion no pen. Kane against Lpool, Vardy v Arsenal in Leicester winning season other examples of players tripping themselves.

I have a solution: twofold: pen only if there is a goal scoring chance, bans, and proper bans if repeated, for offenders. VAR to be relentlessly used for reviewing and banning offenders.

Originally posted by twist

So i have watched all the game except Russia/Saudi Arabia.

France got a VAR decision in their favour, and rightly so.
But Argentina had a definate penalty that did not get VAR'd, as did Peru early on in their game.
Both times, replays show absolute penalty.

So, begs the question, what are those 6 guys in ref shirts in front of TV's behind the dugout actually doing ?


 

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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 17 Jun 18 7.06pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Maybe the players and their feigning and simulation have to take some of the blame? I am convinced that a lot of players practice "being fouled" and "self fouling" to win a penalty. Ronaldo v Spain: in my opinion no pen. Kane against Lpool, Vardy v Arsenal in Leicester winning season other examples of players tripping themselves.

I have a solution: twofold: pen only if there is a goal scoring chance, bans, and proper bans if repeated, for offenders. VAR to be relentlessly used for reviewing and banning offenders.



I agree.

This feigning and diving is awful. France were shocking. Absolutely terrible. It’s cheating. End of.


Edited by BarEagle (17 Jun 2018 7.07pm)

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 18 Jun 18 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Two clears penalties tonight. Not too short of all-in-wrestling. VAR working well.......

 


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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 18 Jun 18 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

Still seems to me a lot of decisions are 50/50 which not sure is what VAR should be for?

One positive has been that is hasn't taken long for decisions to be made or really disrupted he game.

No idea why the Kane fouls weren't given - you can be sure they would be in the Premier league for example.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 19 Jun 18 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

The biggest gripe I've got about it (until England play no doubt) is the inconsistencies of what people call it. It's V. A. R., not var you pleb Rio Ferdinand.

They both got a penalty anyway, and both missed them, so no big deal. I don't think Argentina should've had one if it's the supposed handball you're referring to?

As I was saying. It seems we're not allowed it.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 20 Jun 18 10.49pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

I can deal with var at the World Cup, what is now starting to irritate me is the constant talk about it from commentators and studio pundits, it’s now more prevalent than the game itself and that to me is damaging. They need to lighten off on the subject a bit now and not spend the whole show treating it as more important than the any goal mouth incidents etc

 

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michaelpearce Flag grays 21 Jun 18 8.26am

my look on VAR in the world cup is, the refs you have out there, have had very little experience with the system,not sure but i think we have used it more here than abroad have,
so biggest tournament in the world and we are using it as a training ground not good,
So its not the refs fault for how they use it completely, FIFA have to take the lions share of the blame for using a system that refs are still trying to understand the roll VAR plays in matches

 

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