The deputy assistant police commissioner Jane Connors has denied the final on Sunday was a police failure, even though thousands broke in to wembley, people who had paid for a seat were forced to sit 70 a bench made for 40, ticketless fans were standing in the isles,and England fans with and without tickets fought each other inside all through the game. This, with a pitch invader during the game, England captain Harry Maguires father suffering two suspected broken ribs after being trampled on, and bottles being thrown throughout the day outside the stadium towards families and other fans. If this behaviour means a behind closed doors punishment or losing the 2030 world cup, then so be it! If this is a police success, with 85 arrests to boot, then what is failure? Obviously the Wembley stadium stewardship is also at fault, and uefa for agreeing the terms no doubt, but it might have been better for the assistant Jane to say nothing, as a non failure it wasn"t!Anybody fancy taking their gran kids or kids to the next big England game, knowing the standard the police think is a good days work?

Ha ha, indeed! You couldn"t make it up!

Actually policing has been such a success under Dame Cressida she wants another 4 more years as Met Chief.

I can hear the chants now "4 more years, 4 more years" (from the terrorists, drug gangs, and general yobs)

Edited by Badger11 (15 Jul 2021 7.24am)

One more point

We get these defensive often desperate excuses quite often, another recently was the head of the army in describing the UKs ignominious withdrawal from Afghanistan.

'We didn't actually get defeated on the battlefield'.

Sir Nick Carter, thank you for that.

UK forces sent in by warmonger Blair.

Empathy with the families of the over 400 service personnel who died might be better placed than a shallow dig.

Suggesting the withdrawal is humiliating, shameful, or disgraceful shows a total lack of any awareness of what the events were leading up to this.

We should never have been there to satisfy Blair's ego, but the actions of our service men and women were not shameful, humiliating or disgraceful.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Exactly, from the gov.uk down! Nobody taking responsibility for anything or even answering a question about taking responsibility will filter down, and down, its a race to the bottom! But, alas, at least we have democracy!