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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 30 Apr 23 9.07am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I’m coming around to Roy staying on next year.
This is not a knee jerk reaction to a few good results and performances, but based on solid evidence.
As far as I can see the only reason not to extend his stay is his age.
However, this in itself is not an issue in isolation with his robust health and unbridled enthusiasm for the game.
Football is like breathing to him and I’ve heard or observed nothing from him to suggest that he wouldn’t accept another year.
In some ways it’s a no brainier for the club too.
The club want to remain in the Premier League first and foremost and retain some form of continuity with a settled staff and there’s nothing to suggest that this wouldn’t be achievable with Roy, Ray and Paddy at the helm.
I’m also at cognisant that we’re nearly in May , not far from pre season planning and decisions on players etc.
To bring in a new manager brings in the uncertainty of upheaval with him wanting his own staff and players potentially unsettling the chemistry that is successful at present and looks like it could be in the future.
Some will say keeping Roy is only postponing the inevitable as he will have to go at some point, but is that in itself sufficient reason to make a change in the summer?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Apr 23 9.24am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I posted on another thread it all depends on the boards spending plans. I suspect we will have another poor transfer window as the issues for the previous ones have not been resolved.

If that is the case then Roy is a safe pair of hand.

However if the board do decide to invest then we should go for a new manager.

 


One more point

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Apr 23 9.31am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

This post really fits into 'Next Manager' doesn't it Patrick? But I agree there would appear to be a strong case for Mr Parish to retain the current management setup, especially with Paddy continuing to gain experience in his support role.

I also believe Ray Lewington has more influence than he gets credit for and is about 10 years younger than Roy so what's not to like about him taking over the lead role?

There's little doubt in my mind that the existing management is a far better bet than trying to mould an 'outsider' into the Palace family.

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 30 Apr 23 9.38am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

I think giving Roy another year will give SP the perfect opportunity to not spend any money because Roy will be happy to work with a restricted budget.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 30 Apr 23 9.52am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Although Roy does seem to being enjoying himself and looking nice and relaxed during what is ostensibly a brief interim fill-in role I am not so certain that he is the way forward for next season and it poses the questions: What about the season after that? Where's the planning for 3 years down the line and bringing through the best of the Academy? Does Roy want to retire someday? This is not to say Roy isn't adept at his role here, he certainly knows the club and how to work successfully within the parameters set out thus far: avoid relegation / mid table / small spend.
That said, I think Parish may be tempted to offer him another year as Roy offers a safe pair of hands.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 23 10.17am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I’m coming around to Roy staying on next year.
This is not a knee jerk reaction to a few good results and performances, but based on solid evidence.
As far as I can see the only reason not to extend his stay is his age.
However, this in itself is not an issue in isolation with his robust health and unbridled enthusiasm for the game.
Football is like breathing to him and I’ve heard or observed nothing from him to suggest that he wouldn’t accept another year.
In some ways it’s a no brainier for the club too.
The club want to remain in the Premier League first and foremost and retain some form of continuity with a settled staff and there’s nothing to suggest that this wouldn’t be achievable with Roy, Ray and Paddy at the helm.
I’m also at cognisant that we’re nearly in May , not far from pre season planning and decisions on players etc.
To bring in a new manager brings in the uncertainty of upheaval with him wanting his own staff and players potentially unsettling the chemistry that is successful at present and looks like it could be in the future.
Some will say keeping Roy is only postponing the inevitable as he will have to go at some point, but is that in itself sufficient reason to make a change in the summer?

Precisely, it's extremely obvious to me to keep Roy and Ray for next season and allow Paddy to listen and learn, it's important for a club like ours to keep hold of Paddy.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 30 Apr 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Precisely, it's extremely obvious to me to keep Roy and Ray for next season and allow Paddy to listen and learn, it's important for a club like ours to keep hold of Paddy.

Do you see him as our future manager?

 

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View esox lucius's Profile esox lucius Flag Deal 30 Apr 23 10.27am Send a Private Message to esox lucius Add esox lucius as a friend

The sun is shining, everything in the garden is rosy at the moment, however when we go again next season a lot of people could be on Roy’s back if thing aren’t working very well.

The club have to move forward. Every season we are where we are now, round about 10/12 position, in the 10 years we have been in the prem we have probably spent no more than a few weeks in the top half.

In the premiership treading water is the equivalent of going backwards.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 23 10.36am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Do you see him as our future manager?

Yes of course, why not? I see no reason why Mr Hodgson needs to go anywhere, we should highlight the obvious mistakes that are constantly being made with managers being brought in.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 23 10.38am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by esox lucius

The sun is shining, everything in the garden is rosy at the moment, however when we go again next season a lot of people could be on Roy’s back if thing aren’t working very well.

The club have to move forward. Every season we are where we are now, round about 10/12 position, in the 10 years we have been in the prem we have probably spent no more than a few weeks in the top half.

In the premiership treading water is the equivalent of going backwards.

Investment, it all about that.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 30 Apr 23 10.45am Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

We will have to change sooner or later, RH has vast experience and proves the point if you give a good manager/coach a decent set of players this is what can be achieved. PV lost his way after a very good start, just follows what happened with him in the past. Whatever is decided we can be certain SP will be doing his best to fill the role RH style. As a side issue we need to build on this base of talent we have with the hope the academy will produce a new Wilf or two!! COYP

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Apr 23 10.46am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Although Roy does seem to being enjoying himself and looking nice and relaxed during what is ostensibly a brief interim fill-in role I am not so certain that he is the way forward for next season and it poses the questions: What about the season after that? Where's the planning for 3 years down the line and bringing through the best of the Academy? Does Roy want to retire someday? This is not to say Roy isn't adept at his role here, he certainly knows the club and how to work successfully within the parameters set out thus far: avoid relegation / mid table / small spend.
That said, I think Parish may be tempted to offer him another year as Roy offers a safe pair of hands.


I think you're right on both counts. It is one thing for Roy to come on board for 10 games to ensure our continued PL status - quite another to expect him to do a full season, pre-season and all.

It's almost as if the last month has been a nice holiday for him doing the things he loves doing. He bats away awkward questions about the next manager, Wilf etc., by stating his limited brief was to keep us up. Turn it into a one-year contract for next season and would be back to serious work etc.

As to Parish, it's not just that Roy is a safe pair of hands, he's shown he can work with what's there - very tempting for a man who has limited resources for player recruitment.

Edited by doombear (30 Apr 2023 10.47am)

 

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