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View manoftaste's Profile manoftaste Flag Hastings 15 Mar 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to manoftaste Add manoftaste as a friend

In 30 or 40 years time (when I, unfortunately, will no longer be around to share in it) Palace supporters will be talking nostalgically of this period in the club's history - in much the same way as we reminisce today about Kenny Sansom, Vince Hilaire, and El Tel's 'Team of the Eighties.'
This is without doubt the greatest period ever in the club's history - a charismatic manager, an astute chairman (to whom so much gratitude is owed), an exciting team playing inspiring football, and a passionate crowd that is the envy of most of the Premiership.
I fear (like the team of the eighties) it won't last. Vieiera will be poached, Olise too, Gallagher back to Chelsea... but they can't take away the memories of games like last night.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 15 Mar 22 11.38am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Come grow old with me.
The best is yet to be.

 


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View Plumpton eagle's Profile Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 15 Mar 22 11.45am Send a Private Message to Plumpton eagle Add Plumpton eagle as a friend

Well said "Manof" from another East Sussex long term supporter.

I remember saying,in the grimmer early premiership days, that I preferred the Championship. But now I love Palace being in the prem and feel we are no longer "plucky Palace" and that we are an established top flight team.

Obviously, I have just jinxed all of this but as you suggest we will at least have some great memories with, hopefully, more to come.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 15 Mar 22 12.53pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by manoftaste

In 30 or 40 years time (when I, unfortunately, will no longer be around to share in it) Palace supporters will be talking nostalgically of this period in the club's history - in much the same way as we reminisce today about Kenny Sansom, Vince Hilaire, and El Tel's 'Team of the Eighties.'
This is without doubt the greatest period ever in the club's history - a charismatic manager, an astute chairman (to whom so much gratitude is owed), an exciting team playing inspiring football, and a passionate crowd that is the envy of most of the Premiership.
I fear (like the team of the eighties) it won't last. Vieiera will be poached, Olise too, Gallagher back to Chelsea... but they can't take away the memories of games like last night.

I would say finishing 3rd in 1991 was our greatest period, this team isn’t even in the top half, but you’re right otherwise, I think we’ll all look back fondly on this period if it all goes Pete Tong, because after the last 2 or 3 years, we’re at least good to watch

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 15 Mar 22 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

I would say finishing 3rd in 1991 was our greatest period, this team isn’t even in the top half, but you’re right otherwise, I think we’ll all look back fondly on this period if it all goes Pete Tong, because after the last 2 or 3 years, we’re at least good to watch

90/91 was an exciting period, 3rd and FA cup final, but it didn’t last long. The last 10 years have been our greatest period ever, without doubt. We have gone from being a yo yo club to an established mid table Premier team, no easy task with all the money our rivals are throwing around.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 15 Mar 22 1.47pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

90/91 was an exciting period, 3rd and FA cup final, but it didn’t last long. The last 10 years have been our greatest period ever, without doubt. We have gone from being a yo yo club to an established mid table Premier team, no easy task with all the money our rivals are throwing around.

I suppose if we’re talking as a club for consistently staying in the top flight, then I make you right, but we still haven’t reached the heights of the 1991 team, so for me it’s still our greatest period, we achieved more in a shorter space of time, but we could debate that forever. All I know is, PV has got us all enjoying our football again however this period turns out

 


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View nhp61's Profile nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 15 Mar 22 2.40pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

In those days the top division wasn't littered with clubs subsidised by mega rich owners. The vast majority of players were from the UK and Ireland. It was a much more level playing field than it is now.

I would argue that Palace currently staying so long in the Premier League as it is now is a better achievement.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 15 Mar 22 3.07pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

In those days the top division wasn't littered with clubs subsidised by mega rich owners. The vast majority of players were from the UK and Ireland. It was a much more level playing field than it is now.

I would argue that Palace currently staying so long in the Premier League as it is now is a better achievement.

But now WE spend millions on players as well, the early 90’s team was put together on a shoe string, made up of ex-lower league and non-league players. Still a much better achievement, but I suppose this current story is not yet over, so who knows?

Edited by monkey (15 Mar 2022 4.51pm)

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 15 Mar 22 4.00pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

We played well last night and competed all over the pitch.
However, it has to be acknowledged that their football was at another level which they have been able to achieve through massive investment.
It doesn't seem that long ago they were in the old third division.
I started watching football in the 60s when gate receipts were shared and the likes of Burnley and Everton could challenge for the top.
The level of competition has now been distorted to such an extent that I doubt we will even see a repeat of when a team like Leicester won the title a few years ago.
I hope we don't become a team like Southampton who became a feeder club for Liverpool.
Already we hear of big teams circling some of our players almost with a sense of entitlement.
Even if our Academy proves to be a success you could see the most promising players being poached as the search for talent seems to begin at even earier age.
Winning a cup or finishing in the top 6 against such odds would be a major achievement.

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 15 Mar 22 4.20pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by manoftaste

In 30 or 40 years time (when I, unfortunately, will no longer be around to share in it) Palace supporters will be talking nostalgically of this period in the club's history - in much the same way as we reminisce today about Kenny Sansom, Vince Hilaire, and El Tel's 'Team of the Eighties.'
This is without doubt the greatest period ever in the club's history - a charismatic manager, an astute chairman (to whom so much gratitude is owed), an exciting team playing inspiring football, and a passionate crowd that is the envy of most of the Premiership.
I fear (like the team of the eighties) it won't last. Vieiera will be poached, Olise too, Gallagher back to Chelsea... but they can't take away the memories of games like last night.

I agree that this will be remembered as our golden period, but it's nothing remotely like the Team of the Eighties. For many years, that team defined our broader public image. Now, for the first time, that's no longer the case and nor should it be.

The Team of the Eighties lasted precisely one year at the top level (well, we were relegated after two seasons but once Kenny left the second season was no longer really "that" team. Its reputation was built in Divisions Two and Three (not the top flight), and the whole thing really only lasted four years. In contrast, this side while now at its best yet is still improving and it's the result of ten years (not four) of steady progress, identity-building, and momentum shifting. It's nothing like the Team of the Eighties which was, in contrast, a flash in the pan.

Compare Wilf, who's given us a decade of leadership and brilliance with his equivalent from the 80s, Vince Hilaire, who really had no more than a year of genuine sustained, really top-flight success. There's no comparison between the two. Compare Billy Gilbert, whose reputation exceeded what he ever really achieved in his career, with Dann or Delaney (let alone Guehi or Andersson), both of whom were top-level players who kept us up for half a decade. Compare FFS Murray and his innumerable PL goals with Swindly, who we lionise but never really matured into a top-division, year in-year out goalscorer. There's no comparison.

The Team of the Eighties is largely a myth in the minds of those who weren't there, fostered by the happy memories of those of us who were. This Palace team, and its achievments, are real.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Mar 22 4.28pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree that this will be remembered as our golden period, but it's nothing remotely like the Team of the Eighties. For many years, that team defined our broader public image. Now, for the first time, that's no longer the case and nor should it be.

The Team of the Eighties lasted precisely one year at the top level (well, we were relegated after two seasons but once Kenny left the second season was no longer really "that" team. Its reputation was built in Divisions Two and Three (not the top flight), and the whole thing really only lasted four years. In contrast, this side while now at its best yet is still improving and it's the result of ten years (not four) of steady progress, identity-building, and momentum shifting. It's nothing like the Team of the Eighties which was, in contrast, a flash in the pan.

Compare Wilf, who's given us a decade of leadership and brilliance with his equivalent from the 80s, Vince Hilaire, who really had no more than a year of genuine sustained, really top-flight success. There's no comparison between the two. Compare Billy Gilbert, whose reputation exceeded what he ever really achieved in his career, with Dann or Delaney (let alone Guehi or Andersson), both of whom were top-level players who kept us up for half a decade. Compare FFS Murray and his innumerable PL goals with Swindly, who we lionise but never really matured into a top-division, year in-year out goalscorer. There's no comparison.

The Team of the Eighties is largely a myth in the minds of those who weren't there, fostered by the happy memories of those of us who were. This Palace team, and its achievments, are real.

We never actually called ourselves that it was the media and Ron Greenwood? who coined the phrase so later we were slaughtered for a nickname that we had never owned.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 15 Mar 22 4.33pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Agree with much of this.
There is nostalgia around the team of the 80s and it was probably the closest we’ve had to Manchester United’s Busby Babes with so many promising youth players coming through the ranks at the same time.
Indeed we briefly headed the table and had dreams of being able to challenge for the top of the table.
Ultimately, through inexperience or a certain brittleness the team fell away and never achieved it's hoped for potential.
We’re now at a more sustainable level, but sadly because of the distorted nature of the league we’re unlikely to harbour such dreams in the foreseeable future.

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree that this will be remembered as our golden period, but it's nothing remotely like the Team of the Eighties. For many years, that team defined our broader public image. Now, for the first time, that's no longer the case and nor should it be.

The Team of the Eighties lasted precisely one year at the top level (well, we were relegated after two seasons but once Kenny left the second season was no longer really "that" team. Its reputation was built in Divisions Two and Three (not the top flight), and the whole thing really only lasted four years. In contrast, this side while now at its best yet is still improving and it's the result of ten years (not four) of steady progress, identity-building, and momentum shifting. It's nothing like the Team of the Eighties which was, in contrast, a flash in the pan.

Compare Wilf, who's given us a decade of leadership and brilliance with his equivalent from the 80s, Vince Hilaire, who really had no more than a year of genuine sustained, really top-flight success. There's no comparison between the two. Compare Billy Gilbert, whose reputation exceeded what he ever really achieved in his career, with Dann or Delaney (let alone Guehi or Andersson), both of whom were top-level players who kept us up for half a decade. Compare FFS Murray and his innumerable PL goals with Swindly, who we lionise but never really matured into a top-division, year in-year out goalscorer. There's no comparison.

The Team of the Eighties is largely a myth in the minds of those who weren't there, fostered by the happy memories of those of us who were. This Palace team, and its achievments, are real.

 

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