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leggedstruggle  Croydon 14 Aug 15 6.08pm |
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I'm a supporter of the NHS, it is a great achievement providing quality healthcare to all. However, it should be a much tighter ship. I think this article highlights well just one area, health tourism, that needs sorting out: Edited by leggedstruggle (14 Aug 2015 6.11pm)
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Aug 15 6.16pm |
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And stop providing nonsense like sex changes and fertility treatment. The NHS is to heal the sick, ffs.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 6.18pm |
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Great another NHS thread... I hope you are doing all you can to stop the backdoor cronyism betwixt party donors who have a vested interest and mp's during the transfer from public to private ownership.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 14 Aug 15 6.29pm |
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You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.
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 fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 14 Aug 15 7.19pm |
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Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them! I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction. As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.
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| Pikester Worthing 14 Aug 15 7.22pm |
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Quote Cucking Funt at 14 Aug 2015 6.16pm
And stop providing nonsense like sex changes and fertility treatment. The NHS is to heal the sick, ffs.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Aug 15 7.23pm |
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as a minimum, no translators. Patient doesn't speak any english, just give them two aspirins and send them on their way.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 7.23pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm
You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.
Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.
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Attachment: | nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 7.25pm |
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Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 7.19pm
Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them! I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction. As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 14 Aug 15 7.39pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.25pm
Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 7.19pm
Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them! I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction. As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.
Why am I wrong on the gender reassignment Nick? I'm not the only one who thinks that on here, you got something to tell us Nick, or should that be Nicola ? Edited by fed up eagle (14 Aug 2015 7.41pm) Edited by fed up eagle (14 Aug 2015 7.42pm)
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 14 Aug 15 7.40pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.23pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm
You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.
Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.
A lot of nhs staff work for private companies as well. the nhs major problem has always been not enough £ even has been been pointed out by other country medical boards how little the nhs has to spend for the coverage it has to provide.
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| legaleagle 14 Aug 15 8.23pm |
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According to the BMA: "Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients." According to the BBC: NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists". There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".
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