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leosayer Flag Worthen.Shropshire. 30 Jun 17 7.56pm Send a Private Message to leosayer Add leosayer as a friend

As the old stand is a timber structure which has since been cladded, will this affect Selhurst Park?

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 30 Jun 17 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by leosayer

As the old stand is a timber structure which has since been cladded, will this affect Selhurst Park?

Would depend if it was the safe zinc based cladding or the cheap aluminium stuff used at Grenfall. Guessing it's the former as there's been no news of any checks. I know the club love money these days but I don't believe they would be so stupid as have not checked it was fireproof.

 


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BarEagle Flag Monmouth 30 Jun 17 8.06pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Kermit, I didn't know wood was made out of zinc or aluminium

 

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SE25Woman Flag South Norwood 30 Jun 17 8.09pm Send a Private Message to SE25Woman Add SE25Woman as a friend

The Sports Gounds Safety Authority has written to all clubs asking them to check that any cladding is fire retardant. No so much the same risk as high rises as we don't sleep at football grounds, but good to know all clubs including Palace will be checking.

 

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elbarno Flag Abu Dhabi 01 Jul 17 6.55am Send a Private Message to elbarno Add elbarno as a friend

Originally posted by SE25Woman

The Sports Gounds Safety Authority has written to all clubs asking them to check that any cladding is fire retardant. No so much the same risk as high rises as we don't sleep at football grounds, but good to know all clubs including Palace will be checking.

Few games at Selhurst I've felt like going to sleep!

 

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YT Flag Oxford 01 Jul 17 8.41am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Would depend if it was the safe zinc based cladding or the cheap aluminium stuff used at Grenfall. Guessing it's the former as there's been no news of any checks. I know the club love money these days but I don't believe they would be so stupid as have not checked it was fireproof.

"the cheap aluminium stuff". Was is "cheap" or just a bit less expensive than an alternative? What's the going rate for cladding these days?

 


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Holmesdale Hibs Flag Sydenham Hill 01 Jul 17 9.42am Send a Private Message to Holmesdale Hibs Add Holmesdale Hibs as a friend

The other big difference is that a football stand is easy to evacuate as worst case we could all run on to the pitch. That's not to say we shouldn't test it, but it's not quite the same thing.

 

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legaleagle Flag 01 Jul 17 9.50am

Originally posted by YT

"the cheap aluminium stuff". Was is "cheap" or just a bit less expensive than an alternative? What's the going rate for cladding these days?

According to The Independent:

"A cost summary analysis from the same month (in 2014) also obtained by the newspaper appears to identify a saving of £293,368 by using “aluminium cladding in lieu of zinc cladding”.

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Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 01 Jul 17 9.51am Send a Private Message to Apollofuzz Add Apollofuzz as a friend

It will be fine it's that cheap it's probably Asbestos anyway

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 01 Jul 17 10.40am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

I wonder if it is found to be dangerous whether it may in fact expedite the main stands re building and help any issues get pushed through... I'm sure Sainsburys wouldn't want to be seen to be hindering the process

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 01 Jul 17 11.59am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

I wonder if it is found to be dangerous whether it may in fact expedite the main stands re building and help any issues get pushed through... I'm sure Sainsburys wouldn't want to be seen to be hindering the process


We'll just have to pay them the asking price then, won't we? They're under no obligation to do us any favours.

 


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Palace in the Blood Flag 01 Jul 17 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

According to The Independent:

"A cost summary analysis from the same month (in 2014) also obtained by the newspaper appears to identify a saving of £293,368 by using “aluminium cladding in lieu of zinc cladding”.

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there are still lots of questions from the Grenfell Fire, The cladding is only one and the one the media has latched on to. The link from this poster mentions the change of cladding type. The BBC link on the same story says the aluminium had same fire rating as zinc. [Link] I have no idea if it did or didn't and that is why there is an inquiry. The spread of fire was so rapid inside building suggests to me that something else major was wrong. Each fire compartment should have had fire resistance and it clearly didn't.

Back on the subject of cladding at football grounds, the club will employ a professional advice on its safety which will include fire. This expert advice will have included a fire risk assessment which I suspect will be based around safe evacuation of the ground when it is full and should cover the local houses too. Sainsbury are legally required to have a FRA as well.

There would have been a requirement to carry out a FRA on Grenfell Tower however in practice this is unlikely to have been carried out by an expert but someone considered competent by Housing association

Edited by Palace in the Blood (01 Jul 2017 1.04pm)

 

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