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rednblue4eva Flag Norwood 19 Feb 21 6.43am

Wonder what others will do?

 

Casual Flag Orpington 19 Feb 21 6.49am

All stand up , hopefully.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 19 Feb 21 7.01am

Wonder what Benteke will do? Go haring down the pitch again?

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 19 Feb 21 7.11am

I’m resigning myself to the fact this is Wilfs last season. I don’t blame him. He could wreak havoc at the right club playing open football where he is not being marked out of the match. That will be our biggest hole to fill. A massive great crater to be precise.

 

jeeagles Flag 19 Feb 21 7.20am

Originally posted by rednblue4eva

Wonder what others will do?

Hopefully what ever they think is best and not what they are told to do.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 19 Feb 21 7.29am

Very brave of him I think - taking a stand, literally, against what has become a futile gesture.

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 19 Feb 21 8.04am

Well done Wilf.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Feb 21 8.13am

And this is what happens if you don't toe the established line.

[Link]

 


One more point

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 19 Feb 21 8.28am

Originally posted by Badger11

And this is what happens if you don't toe the established line.

[Link]

Quite. I hope Wilf's strong enough to withstand the online battering he'll inevitably receive.

 

Croydon-Trucker Flag 19 Feb 21 9.11am

Hopefully the rest of our team will follow Wilfs lead . They would probley pull a hamstring getting back up . Well done Wilf !

 

Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 19 Feb 21 9.35am

The message can be reinforced without such theatrics.

Be nice if Wilf now concentrated on getting fit and earned his £140k (or whatever) a week.

The rest of the team can do likewise.

At the end of the day they are footballers carrying out their jobs on match days. Leave politics and indiscretions by the public for the government and authorities to deal with.

Edited by Henry of Peckham (19 Feb 2021 3.10pm)

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

taylors lovechild Flag 19 Feb 21 9.44am

When you are constantly receiving online abuse and the authorities seemingly do nothing you can understand why he has had enough. My only concern with this is that it could be twisted to support a right-wing media agenda and Wilf doesn't always seem like he is that media savvy. Also, those on the left and the right often seem to forget there are human beings involved and both are culpable of going on the offensive to support their agenda and I just hope he doesn't fall victim for being vocal about his views. It should be remembered though that Bentenke had already decided to stop taking the knee against Spurs and even ran into an opposing player to demonstrate his commitment [Link]

 

crystal-purley Flag Purley 19 Feb 21 9.45am

Well done Wilf.
This started in the USA and has now gone full circle and although a good idea should be put gently to bed.

 


Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 19 Feb 21 10.06am

To be honest, I'm scared if he takes the knee when he comes back his hamstring will pop again.

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 19 Feb 21 10.28am

it's become a bit token - I have the utmost respect for army veterans but I don't wear the poppy - these things get over-simplified to pro and anti and bullsh*t runs riot. I'd like to see a genuinely intelligent debate on the subject, but it won't happen. I've heard 'bleeding heart liberals' describe their own personal battles against 'their own racism' - they mean they have to rise above the instant judgements we tend to make, but there is an element of truth to stereotypes and that's where it gets awkward trying to break it down into what is 'racist' and what is joining the dots about someone prematurely. I had a run in with a big fat greedy lawyer a few years back, he conformed to the 'Shylock' stereotype, I hated him purely on grounds of his vile character, but honestly and privately I understood then that these stereotypes have a history and go deep, exclusivity develops over generations and gets reinforced, but it's impossible to tackle these issues without being accused of being racist or 'hard left' - it turns into a shouting match - anyway good on Wilf for being an individual.

 

SpyroCrystal 19 Feb 21 10.48am

Wilf is right. As a black person I can also see it is propaganda and marxist - leninist propaganda. I can be proud to be black without kneeling thank you very much.

 


Big up the Palace!!!!

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Feb 21 11.01am

Originally posted by SpyroCrystal

Wilf is right. As a black person I can also see it is propaganda and marxist - leninist propaganda. I can be proud to be black without kneeling thank you very much.

Well said.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 19 Feb 21 11.08am

Originally posted by SpyroCrystal

Wilf is right. As a black person I can also see it is propaganda and marxist - leninist propaganda. I can be proud to be black without kneeling thank you very much.

Congratulations! Quite right.

 

taylors lovechild Flag 19 Feb 21 11.36am

Originally posted by SpyroCrystal

Wilf is right. As a black person I can also see it is propaganda and marxist - leninist propaganda. I can be proud to be black without kneeling thank you very much.

I keep seeing people saying statements like that but I'm not sure what they mean? Do you mean by taking the knee it is an attempt to derail the imbalance of power and return the means of production to the proletariat? I can see the argument for saying it is in fact those in power trying to give the illusion of giving a rat's arse about equality when all they really want is to sustain their eye-watering profits...but obviously that isn't Marxism, that would be capitalism adapting (as it generally does so well) to the zeitgeist.

Interestingly, Zaha speaks about Rashford and efforts at real social change which do in fact align more with Marxist sympathies, that being a redistribution of wealth. Maybe in fact Zaha, Brentford and QPR are the real Marxist threat

 

slubglurge Flag welling 19 Feb 21 12.16pm

Originally posted by SpyroCrystal

Wilf is right. As a black person I can also see it is propaganda and marxist - leninist propaganda. I can be proud to be black without kneeling thank you very much.

I think the point has now been made. If i were a black person i would find it a bit patronising. I would never take the knee for anybody unless i was being knighted lol and i would not expect or want anybody to take the knee for me as well. I hope this does not split the dressing room though,as we have many black players

 

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