Article on her on the BBC this morning, apparently she is now being considered a genuine threat to the Macron reign. Don't know much about her, asides from being painted as the 'pantomime villain' in the left leaning press.

Would be interested to hear from anybody else on here. My knowledge or indeed care for anything French has been limited to the likes of Mama Sakho, Yohann Cabaye and Michael Olise in years of late, so just about anybody would be far better qualified than I to comment. Is she really the second coming of Hitler? How 'far-right' is she? Or are we just talking about someone who thinks that unregulated mass immigration isn't such a great thing etc and so on?

If she were to get into power, what would be the potential ramifications for Europe and resultantly us? I have now indeed become slightly interested, and bored this Friday morn however do have some actual work to do too and cannot really be bothered with earning my 30 minute Wikipedia degree in everything, as many seem to do these days, so any input appreciated!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Éric Zemmour is the real deal, Le Pen has compromised so much it's almost amusing.....like the article that calls him antisemitic when he's actually Jewish from immigrant Algerian parents.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2022 11.01am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If Zemmour stands down and backs her she has a small chance.

The reality being that a percent are always reluctant to publicly state who they actually end up voting for.....as recent elections have shown.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Indeed. On the point that someone cannot be Jewish and be antisemitic (clearly untrue) I would add that Zemmour is an admirer of many anti-Semitic figures on account of his far right status. Zemmour viewed victims of Algerian Mohammed Merah, who murdered French school children who happened to be Jewish and the man himself in the same light. Suggesting that much in the same way that Merha's family had asked for him to be buried in Algeria, and the murdered children were buried in Israel they 'did not belong to France' and that "Assassins or innocents, executioners or victims" they were 'above all, foreigners'. He is against an emphasis on the holocaust being taught in French schools saying it 'was not a major event of the war'.

Why is the above not of note I wonder? If people are going to be nudged in a direction, I would like them to be informed of where they are heading..

I won't get into his views on blacks (that it's fine to deny someone employment and more based solely on their race etc), convictions for inciting racial hatred and so on. Being that I was the other day accused of 'sick politics' that has 'damaged society generationally in increased crime rates...'(resulting in) 'murder and rape, family breakdown, terrorism, generational displacement and future conflicts that never needed to happen' when I am publicly and repeatedly on record as being pro Brexit, largely anti immigration with the only other stated views that I'm against racism against Brits and have a black British partner, I can well understand why to StirlingSays this guy is 'the real deal'.

Edited by BlueJay (09 Apr 2022 2.18am)

This is what usually happens in the first round...her Dad Jean Marie Le Pen also always did well at first stage but I guess you can say never say never the french are an odd lot but usually wake to to their senses in the end

Red and Blue though and through (more than 50 years)

For what it's worth, as I often find it a surprisingly useful measure, Macron is 2/9 to win the election and Le Pen 3-1. This suggests that while the 'money where their mouth is' crowd believe that Macron will win, it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that Le Pen could.

As a supporter of disconnected elites you dislike populism, I like it because I recognise the damage they have done.

We have played out this debate multiple times.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2022 1.25pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I support Orban, I wasn't aware I support Putin.

The very phrase 'populists run elitist regimes' is so contradictory that it makes my head spin.

Anyway, when I say elites the leaders are only figureheads.
You're so disfigured that you try to present the idea that my not supporting our modern elites means that I don't support the concept of a leader....All societies have elites and they are inevitable....I don't support these elites...they are disconnected and globalist.

It's obvious to anyone honest what 'elites' are and that's the managerial and corporate classes who make the decisions that decide and restrict our lives...more often than not for the worse. All helped by their underlings who implement the rules and laws.

It's quite incredible to experience the ocean of pure nonsense you're prepared to wetly write.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2022 2.34pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Literal double think.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Sure Forest, but it is the politics forum.

That said, I think an hour or two in the garden with a couple of teas might actually be quite nice.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)