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I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Would

Yeah, but would you have a Le Pencil or Le Ruler for her?

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, but would you have a Le Pencil or Le Ruler for her?

You’d be a Le Per afterwards.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

You’d be a Le Per afterwards.

Some would have a Le Fag afterwards, but thankfully I'd be out of puff.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, but would you have a Le Pencil or Le Ruler for her?

Le Pen is mightier than the sword

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 10 Apr 22 2.41am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Everything I wrote is factually true.

Everything you write on this issue is conspiracy theory.

I let others decide which contains more lies!

If ever there's a Channel 5 reality TV show called 'Knocking On vs Signing On' where a relentless, establishment geared 80 year old politically dukes it out with a far right benefits bigot I may well have to stop reading the politics section. But until that day..


 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Apr 22 4.10am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Generally opinion polls get less truth from right wing voters who want to spring a surprise, Le Pen is oonly 2/3 % behind, anything could happen here

 


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Originally posted by HKOwen

Generally opinion polls get less truth from right wing voters who want to spring a surprise, Le Pen is oonly 2/3 % behind, anything could happen here

Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion, or is it just a belief?

I tend to think it's probably true, though not because they want to "spring a surprise" but more from the embarrassment and shame of admitting it.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion, or is it just a belief?

I tend to think it's probably true, though not because they want to "spring a surprise" but more from the embarrassment and shame of admitting it.

I guess here it's known as the 'Shy Tory' factor, and I'd certainly say it was present with Trump. I've no idea if there is a similar dynamic in France, or what part it could play. It sounds like Le Pen is certainly close enough to potentially spring a surprise, but that the somewhat more likely scenario is that the status quo will win out. Time will tell.

 

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IMHO people like messing with pollsters ahead of the voting day but tend to be truthful with exit polls.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion, or is it just a belief?

I tend to think it's probably true, though not because they want to "spring a surprise" but more from the embarrassment and shame of admitting it.

Or because they are vilified by those who don't agree.

The so called tolerant brigade can be very loud and intolerant. I know a lot of people who are left centre and mostly sensible about life yet the minute you mention Boris or Trump or immigration they explode like the incredible hulk and make it clear that other opinions are not available.

I am not embarrassed how I vote and neither am I ashamed. I tend to bite my tongue whilst others launch into their pro left centre views as I don't feel it's worth falling out with them over politics.

You might find that odd as I vent on here, well now you know why, better to vent to strangers than lose one's friends over nonsense such as politics.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Apr 2022 12.14pm)

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 10 Apr 22 12.41pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Or because they are vilified by those who don't agree.

The so called tolerant brigade can be very loud and intolerant. I know a lot of people who are left centre and mostly sensible about life yet the minute you mention Boris or Trump or immigration they explode like the incredible hulk and make it clear that other opinions are not available.

I am not embarrassed how I vote and neither am I ashamed. I tend to bite my tongue whilst others launch into their pro left centre views as I don't feel it's worth falling out with them over politics.

You might find that odd as I vent on here, well now you know why, better to vent to strangers than lose one's friends over nonsense such as politics.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Apr 2022 12.14pm)

It's a two way street. Plenty tuned out anyone who was a Corbyn supporter for instance, as if it meant that were some kind of radical. I knew supporters of him IRL who would whisper rather add volume to how they talked about him. He wasn't my cup of tea, but it was interesting to witness.

With Trump the trouble is that his personal conduct and language is so repugnant towards others that support for him could be seen as a partial endorsement of that type of behaviour and a 'well if you like it that much, have it back' angle. His personality drowns out his politics. Boris, or most of our politicians tbh, is looking out for number one but he has a jokey affable way about him, so I've not really found support for him or his politics to be social kryptonite. Amongst my friends there is more support for him than not really.

There is something to be said for not being 'overly' political in real life though. Less about what people will think, and more why would we imagine that others would want to hear rehashes of the same outlook on repeat (typically whatever media tells us we should be oh so concerned about that week). There's enough in life to deal with without being or dealing with 'that guy' on his soapbox! Sensibly shared points of view are fine, but if people keep getting too political or partisan in any direction in the day to day, I eventually just tune out, because it stops being a conversation with a person, and is more akin to either a party political broadcast, harranging, or like being someones therapist.


Edited by BlueJay (10 Apr 2022 12.54pm)

 

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