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rednblue4eva Norwood 29 Jan 23 3.44pm
Whilst I’ve got no love for Brighton, how did Liverpool finish with 11 players on the pitch? They were kicking Brighton without the ref taking action, Konate could have got red twice

rednblue4eva

Norwood 29 Jan 23 3.44pm

Whilst I’ve got no love for Brighton, how did Liverpool finish with 11 players on the pitch? They were kicking Brighton without the ref taking action, Konate could have got red twice

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 3.51pm
Originally posted by rednblue4eva Whilst I’ve got no love for Brighton, how did Liverpool finish with 11 players on the pitch? They were kicking Brighton without the ref taking action, Konate could have got red twice I only witnessed the last 10 mins of the game and of course saw the tackles by Fabinho and Robertson. Whilst they were robust, I concluded that the award of Yellows by the referee were the correct decisions.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 3.51pm

Originally posted by rednblue4eva

Whilst I’ve got no love for Brighton, how did Liverpool finish with 11 players on the pitch? They were kicking Brighton without the ref taking action, Konate could have got red twice

I only witnessed the last 10 mins of the game and of course saw the tackles by Fabinho and Robertson. Whilst they were robust, I concluded that the award of Yellows by the referee were the correct decisions.

JRW2 Dulwich 29 Jan 23 4.06pm
Originally posted by Willo I only witnessed the last 10 mins of the game and of course saw the tackles by Fabinho and Robertson. Whilst they were robust, I concluded that the award of Yellows by the referee were the correct decisions. There's a surprise!

JRW2

Dulwich 29 Jan 23 4.06pm

Originally posted by Willo

I only witnessed the last 10 mins of the game and of course saw the tackles by Fabinho and Robertson. Whilst they were robust, I concluded that the award of Yellows by the referee were the correct decisions.

There's a surprise!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 4.18pm
Originally posted by JRW2 There's a surprise! There would have been outrage amongst our supporters if our players had been handed Reds for those challenges. The referee would have faced shot and shell.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 4.18pm

Originally posted by JRW2

There's a surprise!

There would have been outrage amongst our supporters if our players had been handed Reds for those challenges.
The referee would have faced shot and shell.

samprior Hamburg 29 Jan 23 4.38pm
Originally posted by Willo I only witnessed the last 10 mins of the game and of course saw the tackles by Fabinho and Robertson. Whilst they were robust, I concluded that the award of Yellows by the referee were the correct decisions. The Fabinho one was awful. Everyone in the studio also thought it was red but the clearest indication was Fabinho's reaction - he was waiting to be sent off knowing VAR would be looking at it... luckily for him the VAR room is full of the same numpties in black that are on the pitch. I don't think he was intent on causing harm but that's irrelevant, it was an atrocious tackle and he knew it. The only people that didn't think it was a red are seemingly the ref, var... and you. Sadly two of those opinions are quite important.

samprior

Hamburg 29 Jan 23 4.38pm

Originally posted by Willo

The Fabinho one was awful. Everyone in the studio also thought it was red but the clearest indication was Fabinho's reaction - he was waiting to be sent off knowing VAR would be looking at it... luckily for him the VAR room is full of the same numpties in black that are on the pitch. I don't think he was intent on causing harm but that's irrelevant, it was an atrocious tackle and he knew it.

The only people that didn't think it was a red are seemingly the ref, var... and you. Sadly two of those opinions are quite important.

Helmet46 Croydon 29 Jan 23 4.45pm
Originally posted by Willo There would have been outrage amongst our supporters if our players had been handed Reds for those challenges. The referee would have faced shot and shell. No, you defo do not speak for me on that assertion. As a long standing season ticket holder and a coach of over 20 years if I had witnessed the Fabinho one I would have expected my player to be sent off. I have never known a team get so many decisions in their favour as Liverpool. It’s a disgrace. I’m no fan of Brighton but I am actually glad they won, although the way the bias was against them I was fully expecting VAR to rule the winning goal out. Edited by Helmet46 (29 Jan 2023 4.48pm)

Helmet46

Croydon 29 Jan 23 4.45pm

Originally posted by Willo

There would have been outrage amongst our supporters if our players had been handed Reds for those challenges.
The referee would have faced shot and shell.

No, you defo do not speak for me on that assertion. As a long standing season ticket holder and a coach of over 20 years if I had witnessed the Fabinho one I would have expected my player to be sent off.

I have never known a team get so many decisions in their favour as Liverpool. It’s a disgrace.

I’m no fan of Brighton but I am actually glad they won, although the way the bias was against them I was fully expecting VAR to rule the winning goal out.

Edited by Helmet46 (29 Jan 2023 4.48pm)

samprior Hamburg 29 Jan 23 4.49pm
Originally posted by Helmet46 No, you defo do not speak for me on that assertion. As a long standing season ticket holder and a coach of over 20 years if I had witnessed the Fabinho one I would have expected my player to be sent off. Indeed, anyone arguing against that needs a trip to Specsavers. You really do wonder what they look at on those monitors in the VAR room.

samprior

Hamburg 29 Jan 23 4.49pm

Originally posted by Helmet46

Indeed, anyone arguing against that needs a trip to Specsavers. You really do wonder what they look at on those monitors in the VAR room.

Swindy Bromley 29 Jan 23 6.19pm
Just the normal bigger club leniency, pretty much in the way the appalling Pawson did our game last week versus the Saudis.

Swindy

Bromley 29 Jan 23 6.19pm

Just the normal bigger club leniency, pretty much in the way the appalling Pawson did our game last week versus the Saudis.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 6.43pm
Originally posted by samprior The Fabinho one was awful. Everyone in the studio also thought it was red but the clearest indication was Fabinho's reaction - he was waiting to be sent off knowing VAR would be looking at it... luckily for him the VAR room is full of the same numpties in black that are on the pitch. I don't think he was intent on causing harm but that's irrelevant, it was an atrocious tackle and he knew it. The only people that didn't think it was a red are seemingly the ref, var... and you. Sadly two of those opinions are quite important. The VAR might have concluded that the Yellow was sufficient or that the decision was not a "Clear and obvious error". In my humble opinion the tackle was robust but not "Atrocious" and the awarding of a yellow was the correct decision. Respectfully, we will have to agree to disagree. Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 6.44pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 6.43pm

Originally posted by samprior

The only people that didn't think it was a red are seemingly the ref, var... and you. Sadly two of those opinions are quite important.

The VAR might have concluded that the Yellow was sufficient or that the decision was not a "Clear and obvious error".

In my humble opinion the tackle was robust but not "Atrocious" and the awarding of a yellow was the correct decision.
Respectfully, we will have to agree to disagree.

Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 6.44pm)

steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jan 23 7.18pm
I thought Liverpool the better side in the second half, but the goal you always expect did not arrive. The ref was ok imo, Fabinho must have been expecting the worst though. An excellent finish hope Ayew was watching.

steeleye20

Croydon 29 Jan 23 7.18pm

I thought Liverpool the better side in the second half, but the goal you always expect did not arrive.

The ref was ok imo, Fabinho must have been expecting the worst though.

An excellent finish hope Ayew was watching.

cryrst The garden of England 29 Jan 23 7.51pm
This negates another date we can play our game at the Amex. If they win the next round I believe there will be none or very few dates available before seasons end. Brighton plod will be happy when it’s announced on a Monday that the game is the next day!

cryrst

The garden of England 29 Jan 23 7.51pm

This negates another date we can play our game at the Amex.
If they win the next round I believe there will be none or very few dates available before seasons end.
Brighton plod will be happy when it’s announced on a Monday that the game is the next day!

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 29 Jan 23 8.05pm
I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool. On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 29 Jan 23 8.05pm

I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool.

On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 8.11pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool. On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan. Brighton signed Mitoma from a Japanese club (I believe for £2.5 Mill) and loaned him to Union Saint-Gilloise for a season. He has now scored 4 goals in his last 6 games for Brighton. Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 8.13pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 8.11pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool.

On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan.

Brighton signed Mitoma from a Japanese club (I believe for £2.5 Mill) and loaned him to Union Saint-Gilloise for a season.
He has now scored 4 goals in his last 6 games for Brighton.

Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 8.13pm)

Eaglehamster Storrington 29 Jan 23 8.21pm
Liverpool could have had 3 reds. In my mind they played like thugs. When the Mitoma goal went in justice was done. Good game! I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 29 Jan 23 8.21pm

Liverpool could have had 3 reds. In my mind they played like thugs.

When the Mitoma goal went in justice was done.

Good game!

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

samprior Hamburg 29 Jan 23 8.22pm
Originally posted by Willo The VAR might have concluded that the Yellow was sufficient or that the decision was not a "Clear and obvious error". In my humble opinion the tackle was robust but not "Atrocious" and the awarding of a yellow was the correct decision. Respectfully, we will have to agree to disagree. Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 6.44pm) I'm sure that was the VAR conclusion, which is a damning indictment of those involved. Call me crazy but a studs up tackle, from behind, nowhere near the ball which rakes down the opponents achilles is a red all day long. I'd class the Robertson one as robust and a yellow but never in a million years Fabinho's.

samprior

Hamburg 29 Jan 23 8.22pm

Originally posted by Willo

The VAR might have concluded that the Yellow was sufficient or that the decision was not a "Clear and obvious error".

In my humble opinion the tackle was robust but not "Atrocious" and the awarding of a yellow was the correct decision.
Respectfully, we will have to agree to disagree.

Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 6.44pm)

I'm sure that was the VAR conclusion, which is a damning indictment of those involved.

Call me crazy but a studs up tackle, from behind, nowhere near the ball which rakes down the opponents achilles is a red all day long. I'd class the Robertson one as robust and a yellow but never in a million years Fabinho's.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 8.40pm
Originally posted by samprior I'm sure that was the VAR conclusion, which is a damning indictment of those involved. Call me crazy but a studs up tackle, from behind, nowhere near the ball which rakes down the opponents achilles is a red all day long. I'd class the Robertson one as robust and a yellow but never in a million years Fabinho's. To my mind Fabinho went to play the ball, he never lunged in from a distance, he was not out of control, contact made was not high.Of course he missed the ball and caught Ferguson's achilles this is not disputed but all-in-all I think a yellow was the correct decision. I accept that my view is not met with uniform agreement however HOL would be exceedingly dull if we all agreed with one another all the time ! Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 8.43pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jan 23 8.40pm

Originally posted by samprior

I'm sure that was the VAR conclusion, which is a damning indictment of those involved.

To my mind Fabinho went to play the ball, he never lunged in from a distance, he was not out of control, contact made was not high.Of course he missed the ball and caught Ferguson's achilles this is not disputed but all-in-all I think a yellow was the correct decision.

I accept that my view is not met with uniform agreement however HOL would be exceedingly dull if we all agreed with one another all the time !

Edited by Willo (29 Jan 2023 8.43pm)

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Jan 23 9.27pm
Originally posted by Eaglehamster Liverpool could have had 3 reds. In my mind they played like thugs. When the Mitoma goal went in justice was done. Good game! It's frustrating (as a Palace fan) to have to admit that Brighton are playing well. Mitoma's goal was class - close control; quick thinking in a crowded penalty area and a sublime finish - totally bamboozled defender and Allison. The clear Ref error was not to call a foul when the Brighton player was pushed over just outside the box in the denial of a clear scoring opportunity. The Liverpool player should have been sent off.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Jan 23 9.27pm

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Liverpool could have had 3 reds. In my mind they played like thugs.

When the Mitoma goal went in justice was done.

Good game!

It's frustrating (as a Palace fan) to have to admit that Brighton are playing well. Mitoma's goal was class - close control; quick thinking in a crowded penalty area and a sublime finish - totally bamboozled defender and Allison.

The clear Ref error was not to call a foul when the Brighton player was pushed over just outside the box in the denial of a clear scoring opportunity. The Liverpool player should have been sent off.

YT Oxford 29 Jan 23 10.14pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool. On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan. or should have taken ... Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 29 Jan 23 10.14pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I only watched the second half and it certainly looked like the ref was well disposed towards Liverpool.

On a different tack, Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Perhaps our scouts should take a trip to Japan.

or should have taken ...

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Jan 23 5.12pm
Presumably Liverpool will get a new manager just before they play us. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Jan 23 5.12pm

Presumably Liverpool will get a new manager just before they play us.

Red and Blue Army!

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 31 Jan 23 10.38am
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player. Sorry to prolong this thread, but I was fascinated to read an article in the paper today about Mitoma's background. When he was at university in Japan a few years ago, he studied the art of dribbling for his thesis. Can't imagine many of our lads doing that. [Link] Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 31 Jan 23 10.38am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Brighton's winning goal was very well taken by Mitoma who looks a lively, energetic and skillful player.

Sorry to prolong this thread, but I was fascinated to read an article in the paper today about Mitoma's background.

When he was at university in Japan a few years ago, he studied the art of dribbling for his thesis. Can't imagine many of our lads doing that.

[Link]

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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