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Quote corkery at 24 May 2013 9.58pm
Quote dannyh at 24 May 2013 8.25pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 24 May 2013 7.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2013 6.55pm
I'll never have a go at the Irish people for the war. Too many Irish fought and died fighting on our side for that. Also our armies are packed full with Irish and Irish descent. But I will have a go at their terrible government and their dishonourable political stand during the war. They sat on the fence and didn't defend democracy. Many Irish individuals did however and came back to be shunned by their government. Disgraceful and dishonourable government. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2013 6.55pm)
Nice bit of neutrality, that. A fact that is often overlooked when the misty eyed good ol Orish reminisce about their part in the biggun.
The reason they were shunned by their government was because the country could of been invaded at any moment by the UK or Germany. You have to remember that it was such as short time after the Irish War and that the party in power at the time lost the civil war. They blamed Churchill for the civil war. However, I think he was a leader and if it were not for him, there would of been serious morale problems during the war. Edited by corkery (24 May 2013 10.01pm)
Archer also gave British intelligence details of equipment, found on three captured German agents in Skibbereen, which included explosives inside a tin of French peas intended to blow up Buckingham Palace. Archer would not let the Brits interview the three German prisoners.
One other point I would like to raise, I accept it was the government that was mainly to blame for the "indifference" but I don't remember to many protest marches being recorded in the WW2 history books.
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Quote Forest Hillbilly at 23 May 2013 8.10am
No doubt he was a cnt. He was indeed a cnt, but where would we be right now with an even bigger cnt in Chamberlain ? And the Furher was simply brilliant. His only mistake was to take on Russia with insufficient forces/supply chains. And then the fcking Japs got involved and brought the USA into the war. German military might was simply awesome. They just bit a teensy bit more than they could chew. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (23 May 2013 8.15am)
1. Don't invade Russia. 2. File your tax return.
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Eaglesmad, a lot of revisionist history is being done on Churchill. Some of his carry ons were not very good.
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Quote ragatony at 25 May 2013 10.45am
Eaglesmad, a lot of revisionist history is being done on Churchill. Some of his carry ons were not very good.
Germany is a very recent nation. The fact is that the Anglo and Saxon languages that mixed in with our other influences wasn't the same language that the new Germans spoke. It's like saying that English is French because we share a language heritage. The language of these shores has never been the same as another country's language. The nearest we would have got to that was when the Romans were here or when only the elite Normans and their court spoke only French.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 25 May 2013 2.38pm
Quote ragatony at 25 May 2013 10.45am
Eaglesmad, a lot of revisionist history is being done on Churchill. Some of his carry ons were not very good.
Germany is a very recent nation. The fact is that the Anglo and Saxon languages that mixed in with our other influences wasn't the same language that the new Germans spoke. It's like saying that English is French because we share a language heritage. The language of these shores has never been the same as another country's language. The nearest we would have got to that was when the Romans were here or when only the elite Normans and their court spoke only French.
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Quote Cucking Funt at 25 May 2013 4.59pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 25 May 2013 2.38pm
Quote ragatony at 25 May 2013 10.45am
Eaglesmad, a lot of revisionist history is being done on Churchill. Some of his carry ons were not very good.
Germany is a very recent nation. The fact is that the Anglo and Saxon languages that mixed in with our other influences wasn't the same language that the new Germans spoke. It's like saying that English is French because we share a language heritage. The language of these shores has never been the same as another country's language. The nearest we would have got to that was when the Romans were here or when only the elite Normans and their court spoke only French.
On the Hol, surely not!
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Churchill......he da man !!!
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The persistence of Churchill in the battle for North Africa was pivotal, he alone persuaded the yanks that this was the place to deploy. The masterclass appointment of Mountbatten and the following kicking of the Africa Korps paved the way for the fall of Italy.
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Quote dannyh at 25 May 2013 7.30am
Quote corkery at 24 May 2013 9.58pm
Quote dannyh at 24 May 2013 8.25pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 24 May 2013 7.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 May 2013 6.55pm
I'll never have a go at the Irish people for the war. Too many Irish fought and died fighting on our side for that. Also our armies are packed full with Irish and Irish descent. But I will have a go at their terrible government and their dishonourable political stand during the war. They sat on the fence and didn't defend democracy. Many Irish individuals did however and came back to be shunned by their government. Disgraceful and dishonourable government. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2013 6.55pm)
Nice bit of neutrality, that. A fact that is often overlooked when the misty eyed good ol Orish reminisce about their part in the biggun.
The reason they were shunned by their government was because the country could of been invaded at any moment by the UK or Germany. You have to remember that it was such as short time after the Irish War and that the party in power at the time lost the civil war. They blamed Churchill for the civil war. However, I think he was a leader and if it were not for him, there would of been serious morale problems during the war. Edited by corkery (24 May 2013 10.01pm)
Archer also gave British intelligence details of equipment, found on three captured German agents in Skibbereen, which included explosives inside a tin of French peas intended to blow up Buckingham Palace. Archer would not let the Brits interview the three German prisoners.
One other point I would like to raise, I accept it was the government that was mainly to blame for the "indifference" but I don't remember to many protest marches being recorded in the WW2 history books. One of the greatest English men of an era!
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Quote kevpofcpfc at 31 May 2013 4.48pm
The persistence of Churchill in the battle for North Africa was pivotal, he alone persuaded the yanks that this was the place to deploy. The masterclass appointment of Mountbatten and the following kicking of the Africa Korps paved the way for the fall of Italy.
I still think he was a very good Second World War leader but very far from perfect.
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Quote johnno42000 at 31 May 2013 6.03pm
Quote kevpofcpfc at 31 May 2013 4.48pm
The persistence of Churchill in the battle for North Africa was pivotal, he alone persuaded the yanks that this was the place to deploy. The masterclass appointment of Mountbatten and the following kicking of the Africa Korps paved the way for the fall of Italy.
I still think he was a very good Second World War leader but very far from perfect.
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Quote Cucking Funt at 31 May 2013 6.10pm
Quote johnno42000 at 31 May 2013 6.03pm
Quote kevpofcpfc at 31 May 2013 4.48pm
The persistence of Churchill in the battle for North Africa was pivotal, he alone persuaded the yanks that this was the place to deploy. The masterclass appointment of Mountbatten and the following kicking of the Africa Korps paved the way for the fall of Italy.
I still think he was a very good Second World War leader but very far from perfect.
Fair point but he also admired Mussolini, probably as he was anti-communist, so 50% right wasn't too bad. Edited by johnno42000 (31 May 2013 6.37pm)
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