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Part Time James Flag 23 Feb 16 12.19pm

I remember Jeremy Corbyn from that 7 days after he took charge of the Labour party. He was in the news loads for that 7 days. Who is in charge of the Labour party now? I see Chris Evans and Matt Baker on the TV a lot, is it one of them?

 




Hoof Hearted 23 Feb 16 12.20pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

To me, whilst its funny, its actually the interrupter who comes off as the t***, wasting peoples time with quips and jokes, rather than doing his job and listening and letting people actually address the commons etc.

I don't really see how it paints Corbyn's merits or aptitude at all, it just shows mentality of British Politics. Its like the kid who disrupts class, to make his mates laugh.

Bad day Jamie?

If you want to be serious about it, it demonstrates how Corbyn doesn't think ahead and avoid this sort of reaction which makes him an unlikely candidate to ever make PM. Cameron doesn't make these gaffes.
Also Corbyn's deputy looked pretty stupid when Osborne turned the tables on him with the "little red book" stunt.

Performance at the Dispatch Box tells us all we need to know about Corbyn as a potential PM..... useless and a laughing stock.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Feb 16 12.21pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Why not?

He's no more of a liar than most politicians - Cameron is very economic with the truth most of the time now and is backing a campaign he doesn't believe in.

Anyway it was another bad day for your mate Jeremy yesterday in the Commons.

He stood up to speak after Cameron finished a long speech and as usual met with jeers and started "This last few weeks I too have been to Brussels to meet with my socialist comrades, and do you know what they are saying?"

Quick as a flash some wag shouted out "Who are you?"

The house erupted with laughter from both sides of the house which went on for ages until the speaker restored order, and yet again Corbyn showed us his merits and aptitude to be PM.

This is the amn you want to lead the country?

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 16 12.23pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

To me, whilst its funny, its actually the interrupter who comes off as the t***, wasting peoples time with quips and jokes, rather than doing his job and listening and letting people actually address the commons etc.

I don't really see how it paints Corbyn's merits or aptitude at all, it just shows mentality of British Politics. Its like the kid who disrupts class, to make his mates laugh.

He didn't come across like this at all. This person made ONE quip which hugely amused the "House" adding to the theatre and entertainment.He never interrupted constantly and my goodness there was a lot of "Addressing" of the house and listening by the MPs.
Seen far worse interruptions with the speaker having to bellow out "Order,Order" at regular intervals.

 

Hoof Hearted 23 Feb 16 12.25pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

This is the amn you want to lead the country?

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I don't know what an amn is nick?

What I said was that Bojo amongst others would come forward to be a candidate for leader, I didn't endorse his claims.

As I recall I favoured Liam Fox, but with mis givings.

Here is my quote - Bojo would be in the ascendancy, but others would come forward... I still like Liam Fox, but he's had a few setbacks.

Your memory worries me nick, it was less than 2 hours ago I posted... early onset of Alzheimer's?

Edited by Hoof Hearted (23 Feb 2016 12.28pm)

 

leifandersonshair Flag Newport 23 Feb 16 12.27pm

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Apparently the performance of England at the Euros might have an impact- so we'll probably end up exiting the EU as fast as England exited the Euros at the group stage!

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 16 12.29pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted


As I recall I favoured Liam Fox,

Good choice.

Norman Tebbit, David Davis, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Peter Lilley etc etc - I'm on their wavelength !


 

Hoof Hearted 23 Feb 16 12.32pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

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Apparently the performance of England at the Euros might have an impact- so we'll probably end up exiting the EU as fast as England exited the Euros at the group stage!

You're probably right... LOL

As some else said on this thread earlier - our showing in the Eurovision Song Contest reflects how well the rest of Europe like us so we might as well leave the EU anyway.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 16 12.33pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

You're probably right... LOL

As some else said on this thread earlier - our showing in the Eurovision Song Contest reflects how well the rest of Europe like us so we might as well leave the EU anyway.

Cameron never even managed to secure an "Opt Out" with regard to the dastardly "Eurovision Song Contest".

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 23 Feb 16 12.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

This is the amn you want to lead the country?

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Ah, the Huffington Post, that beacon of impartiality.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Feb 16 12.38pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Ah, the Huffington Post, that beacon of impartiality.

Yes indeed. Is there a beacon of impartiality?

Was the first site I found with the Mair vs Bojo interview I could find.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Feb 16 12.40pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I don't know what an amn is nick?


Edited by Hoof Hearted (23 Feb 2016 12.28pm)

Was a typo, but I am unsurprised you found a 3 letter anagram difficult

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Feb 16 12.50pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

You're probably right... LOL

As some else said on this thread earlier - our showing in the Eurovision Song Contest reflects how well the rest of Europe like us so we might as well leave the EU anyway.

Didn't we invent it? Just like football.

We invent it and then let it slip into the hands of Europeans who corrupt it and marginalised us.

We didn't invent the EU so we have no chance there.

 

lankygit Flag Lincoln 23 Feb 16 12.58pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Ah, the Huffington Post, that beacon of impartiality.

Funty, the Huffington Post is what it is. The facets of Boris exposed in that video are what they are.

 


Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? [Link]

dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 23 Feb 16 1.26pm

Norway do alright out of it don't they. And by the way it might just be me, but just what eaxctly export wise do we rely on Europe for ?

Seems to me we are massive contributor to the Euro and the rest of Europe are bricking it in case we pull out, that would invetibley lead to house of cards collapsing.

I say get the f*** out of the EU now.

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Feb 16 1.52pm

Originally posted by dannyh

Norway do alright out of it don't they. And by the way it might just be me, but just what eaxctly export wise do we rely on Europe for ?

Seems to me we are massive contributor to the Euro and the rest of Europe are bricking it in case we pull out, that would invetibley lead to house of cards collapsing.

I say get the f*** out of the EU now.

I do agree with your position but, and you may or may not know (some will/some won't)

Norway have an open door policy/'freedom of movement' so they haven't effectively opted out of the fundamental concept of the EU. This is THE big issue to negotiate around. Get that and the house collapsing looks very possible.

We export under 50% of our exports to Europe but find it hard to open up new trade agreements elsewhere in emerging markets because of EU rules. In 2008 to the EU fell below 50% for the 1st time and obviously non-EU exports rose above 50%. The trend is continuing. It used to be 66% exports to the EU.

EU exports 10% of its goods/services to the UK.

The monetary value of imports outweighs the value of exports hence they shouldnt want to cut their noses off to spite their face. £227bn worth of exports vs £288bn of imports.

I cannot imaging Peugeot and Renault workers being pleased with raising tariffs on their unreliable cars beyond 3 years if Japanese cars made here carry no tariffs at all. Same with German kitchen appliances. Just needs someone with the bottle to do it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (23 Feb 2016 2.34pm)

 


COYP

legaleagle Flag 23 Feb 16 1.54pm

Originally posted by dannyh

Norway do alright out of it don't they. And by the way it might just be me, but just what eaxctly export wise do we rely on Europe for ?

Seems to me we are massive contributor to the Euro and the rest of Europe are bricking it in case we pull out, that would invetibley lead to house of cards collapsing.

I say get the f*** out of the EU now.

and Norway,just like the other EEA countries,has EU free movement of labour...because that's the only "non EU member but getting a favourable trade deal with the EU" package they could get and which (just like we would)they had no choice but to accept because its essential to them...

You ask what we rely on for export-wise re the EU.Well,for one thing,things like Japanese car companies having plants located here because of the guaranteed access to EU markets for the cars...Same applies for us being a desirable European HQ location for many international companies....and that's not to mention the negative effect on our standing as a (the?) major european financial centre if we were out of the EU...

Edited by legaleagle (23 Feb 2016 1.54pm)

 

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Feb 16 1.54pm

Originally posted by Willo

Good choice.

Norman Tebbit, David Davis, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Peter Lilley etc etc - I'm on their wavelength !


This is akin to Boris and Gallaway agreeing. Willo and Hoof in accord.

Who'd ever have thought it? Fact is, indeed, often stranger than fiction.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 16 2.03pm

Originally posted by legaleagle


You ask what we rely on for export-wise re the EU.Well,for one thing,things like Japanese car companies having plants located here because of the guaranteed access to EU markets for the cars...

This is what Toyota have announced :

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 23 Feb 16 2.07pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

and Norway,just like the other EEA countries,has EU free movement of labour...because that's the only "non EU member but getting a favourable trade deal with the EU" package they could get and which (just like we would)they had no choice but to accept because its essential to them...

You ask what we rely on for export-wise re the EU.Well,for one thing,things like Japanese car companies having plants located here because of the guaranteed access to EU markets for the cars...Same applies for us being a desirable European HQ location for many international companies....and that's not to mention the negative effect on our standing as a (the?) major european financial centre if we were out of the EU...

Edited by legaleagle (23 Feb 2016 1.54pm)

That is scaremongering on a David (I’m s***ting myself) Cameron scale. The Norwegians still trade with Europe, in fact pretty much just about every piece of fish you eat is imported from Norway, Australia seems to do OK, so do most other countries, and whose to say the car firms or bankers would up and leave anyway ? We would still be able to trade with Europe, but we wouldn’t be tied to some of the barking mad loony’s in Brussels, the only business leaders s***ting a brick are the ones that stand to lose personal fortunes if we pull out as they are heavily invested in European interests.


Edited by dannyh (23 Feb 2016 2.10pm)

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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