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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
There is no doubt that there are victims of war in Gaza, however when people post links to sites with an obvious agenda it does little to help the conversation. When you say "Real Victims" it seems to imply that the only victims are on the Palestinian side? Sorry no "agenda" intended. I was not trying to compare one injustice with another. It is just a convenient link. If you want to see the work of this fantastic Hospital directly then use this site:
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No point-scoring from me. It does occur to me that these people must grow up loathing Israel, Hamas will never have to advertise.
It's true that anti semitism is widespread. It's also true that they have cause to hate Israel. It's also true, however, that they are raised to hate them.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No point-scoring from me. It does occur to me that these people must grow up loathing Israel, Hamas will never have to advertise.
Egypt managed to make peace with Israel and Jordan don't do too bad either. Hamas want to destroy Israel, it really is that simple. There are too many people on both sides dying but the ease in which some choose to simply blame Israel is disconcerting
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Originally posted by Islington Eagle
Sorry no "agenda" intended. I was not trying to compare one injustice with another. It is just a convenient link. If you want to see the work of this fantastic Hospital directly then use this site: Thanks for the link, I can't imagine the horrors they see, my initial comment was really aimed at the implication that there were only casualties on one side.
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Hussein (UN Human Rights Chief) told the UN meeting in Geneva that many of the Palestinians injured and killed “were completely unarmed [and] were shot in the back, in the chest, in the head and limbs with live ammunition”, saying there was “little evidence of any [Israeli] attempt to minimise casualties”. “Although some of the demonstrators threw molotov cocktails, used slingshots to throw stones, flew burning kites into Israel and attempted to use wire-cutters against the two fences between Gaza and Israel, these actions alone do not appear to constitute the imminent threat to life or deadly injury which could justify the use of lethal force.” 'Terrorists' using slingshots?
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hussein (UN Human Rights Chief) told the UN meeting in Geneva that many of the Palestinians injured and killed “were completely unarmed [and] were shot in the back, in the chest, in the head and limbs with live ammunition”, saying there was “little evidence of any [Israeli] attempt to minimise casualties”. “Although some of the demonstrators threw molotov cocktails, used slingshots to throw stones, flew burning kites into Israel and attempted to use wire-cutters against the two fences between Gaza and Israel, these actions alone do not appear to constitute the imminent threat to life or deadly injury which could justify the use of lethal force.” 'Terrorists' using slingshots? It worked quite well for David.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hussein (UN Human Rights Chief) told the UN meeting in Geneva that many of the Palestinians injured and killed “were completely unarmed [and] were shot in the back, in the chest, in the head and limbs with live ammunition”, saying there was “little evidence of any [Israeli] attempt to minimise casualties”. “Although some of the demonstrators threw molotov cocktails, used slingshots to throw stones, flew burning kites into Israel and attempted to use wire-cutters against the two fences between Gaza and Israel, these actions alone do not appear to constitute the imminent threat to life or deadly injury which could justify the use of lethal force.” 'Terrorists' using slingshots?
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Originally posted by cryrst
The Israelis have all the means to disperse such a mob as this, they have years of experience. There was one Israel casualty, a soldier struck by a stone.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The Israelis have all the means to disperse such a mob as this, they have years of experience. There was one Israel casualty, a soldier struck by a stone. And disperse them they did.
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Every time someone is killed or injured the hatred is perpetuated. So try to avoid killing Seems self evident to me.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Every time someone is killed or injured the hatred is perpetuated. So try to avoid killing Seems self evident to me. You really believe that ?
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hussein (UN Human Rights Chief) told the UN meeting in Geneva that many of the Palestinians injured and killed “were completely unarmed [and] were shot in the back, in the chest, in the head and limbs with live ammunition”, saying there was “little evidence of any [Israeli] attempt to minimise casualties”. “Although some of the demonstrators threw molotov cocktails, used slingshots to throw stones, flew burning kites into Israel and attempted to use wire-cutters against the two fences between Gaza and Israel, these actions alone do not appear to constitute the imminent threat to life or deadly injury which could justify the use of lethal force.” 'Terrorists' using slingshots? and Molotovs and kites. In case you aren't aware, this isn't Janet and John running down a hill singing let's go fly a kite!! they cause fires and lots of damage, often with Nazi symbols on them. What has happened cannot be viewed in isolation unfortunately, whether it is the six day war, Yom Kippur, Munich, Entebbe the various PLO and Hezbollah attacks through the 80s and 90s or more recently murders of police and security forces in Jerusalem they all contribute to where we or rather they, are.
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