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| W12 14 Feb 20 11.03am | |
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The self hatred is strong in these ones
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 Badger11  Beckenham 14 Feb 20 11.42am |
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Originally posted by W12
The self hatred is strong in these ones Why do I hear Yoda when I read this line.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Feb 20 7.11pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Lisa Nandy impresses me. Especially after she passed with honours a 15 minute grilling by the rottweiler Andrew Neil recently. She is the most likely to appeal to the 'man in the street' as she doesn't procrastinate or waffle. Long Bailey and Newberry will antagonise one wing or the other of the Labour voters and Starmer will just bore the pants off everyone. But he will win. She appeals to me as a man.
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 20 6.34am |
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Originally posted by chris123
Labour need a leader who recognises that policies popular with the membership, doesn't get you elected - Labour need policies that are popular with the electorate. I'm sure that many leadership candidates recognize that but getting those that control the Labour Party to also recognize it is a different matter
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 20 6.35am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Leadership is an outmoded capitalist construct, as is the notion of contest. At the end of the class struggle a natural leadership by committee will emerge and issue instructions based on sound Marxist/Leninist ideas. You mean "all animals are equal but some are more equal than others"
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| chris123 hove actually 15 Feb 20 8.32am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm sure that many leadership candidates recognize that but getting those that control the Labour Party to also recognize it is a different matter Need to be more Fabian than Momentum.
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 20 10.05am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Emily Thornberry is out of the race She would never have won over the general public as apart from her infamous white van man post she has little piggy eyes that are too close together which makes her look untrustworthy
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| chris123 hove actually 15 Feb 20 10.48am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Emily Thornberry is the nearest Labour have to John Prescott........physically. Same right hook I believe.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Feb 20 11.12am |
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Originally posted by chris123
Same right hook I believe. What worries you is that she couldn't see at the start that it was a non starter. She had eaten away her own support a long time ago....it's probably why she's dropping out. To spend more time eating with family.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Matov 15 Feb 20 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What worries you is that she couldn't see at the start that it was a non starter.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Stirlingsays 15 Feb 20 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Depends. Yes, she probably knew her chances of winning were slim but if she can now wield a block of votes, has the chance to secure a new place in whatever Shadow Cabinet gets formed. I was being a tad mischievous But you are of course correct. It does make sense to run for exactly the purpose of positioning.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Matov 15 Feb 20 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I was being a tad mischievous But you are of course correct. It does make sense to run for exactly the purpose of positioning.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| cryrst The garden of England 15 Feb 20 1.00pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
She would make a policy and vote against it.
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| Matov 15 Feb 20 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
She would make a policy and vote against it. Beyond weird. She promoted a policy that destroyed Labour. And yet these are meant to be the smart people. She is living embodiment of the myth that somehow the Remoaners were the smart ones. Thick as s***, every single one of them. Just the maths told them that. Rather than focusing on the percentages of the actual referendum, they should have studied the constituency break down of both the referendum and then the Euro elections. That was the reference against which to ascertain the best manifesto stance to adopt, let alone poll after poll which showed people against a second referendum. Essentially Labours policy was the VERY WORST one. Shockingly bad in a way that will be taught in political classes for decades to come. Against a background of a country sick to death of Brexit these geniuses decide that offering even more of it is the best course of action. Beyond moronic. With the beauty being that Kier Starmer was just as guilty as Thornberry of pushing this. And looking like to lead Labour! LOL. f***ing beautiful. Rewarding stupidity. I love the Left at the moment.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Feb 20 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Beyond weird. She promoted a policy that destroyed Labour. And yet these are meant to be the smart people. She is living embodiment of the myth that somehow the Remoaners were the smart ones. Thick as s***, every single one of them. Just the maths told them that. Rather than focusing on the percentages of the actual referendum, they should have studied the constituency break down of both the referendum and then the Euro elections. That was the reference against which to ascertain the best manifesto stance to adopt, let alone poll after poll which showed people against a second referendum. Essentially Labours policy was the VERY WORST one. Shockingly bad in a way that will be taught in political classes for decades to come. Against a background of a country sick to death of Brexit these geniuses decide that offering even more of it is the best course of action. Beyond moronic. With the beauty being that Kier Starmer was just as guilty as Thornberry of pushing this. And looking like to lead Labour! LOL. f***ing beautiful. Rewarding stupidity. I love the Left at the moment. More guilty apparently he was the architect of the policy, he doesn't strike me as a man with a vision that will inspire the voters. How hard is it to be a Labour leader? Focus on the needs of the less well off / working classes understand their issues and develop policies accordingly. I may have told this story before a friend was invited to a listening summit at no 10 when Blair was in power (he wasn't present). She is very much a Labour supporter but told me they weren't interested in listening to any other views in the room they had already made up their minds about policies. I suspect the same applies to today's Labour party. They know what's best for the country it's just that us poor voters are too stupid to understand their right. Whoever wins out of this shower will not be PM unless Boris really screws up.
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