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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Jul 20 10.24pm
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Any european country i fancy! 27 Jul 20 10.24pm

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Winch Eagle Fleet, Hampshire 27 Jul 20 10.31pm
I think it was always a question of timing and ultimately availability of a replacement. Roy has not covered himself in glory after the re start, but it only leaves him vunerable if the club feel there is an ideal replacement out there. Historically the candidate would be English and experienced so the 2 who fit that are potentially available in Dyche and Howe. In my oppinion if the right fit is about now then we need to go with it. Winch Eagle
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Winch Eagle

Fleet, Hampshire 27 Jul 20 10.31pm

I think it was always a question of timing and ultimately availability of a replacement.
Roy has not covered himself in glory after the re start, but it only leaves him vunerable if the club feel there is an ideal replacement out there.
Historically the candidate would be English and experienced so the 2 who fit that are potentially available in Dyche and Howe.
In my oppinion if the right fit is about now then we need to go with it.

Winch Eagle

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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 Jul 20 2.11am
Let's wait and see, oh, hang on......... This is a truly redundant thread Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 29 Jul 20 2.11am

Let's wait and see, oh, hang on.........

This is a truly redundant thread

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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A1969Eagle Redhill 31 Jul 20 1.34am
Do you remember what they said last year about Roy [Link] Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team? [Tweet Link] "Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...." Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!!
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A1969Eagle

Redhill 31 Jul 20 1.34am

Do you remember what they said last year about Roy

[Link]

Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team?

[Tweet Link]

"Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...."

Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!!

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Spiderman Horsham 31 Jul 20 6.34am
Originally posted by Den1923 Sorry Rudi but I have never been great fan of Benteke, in his first season he did score 15 goals and in fairness to him that did probably keep us in the PL. He has not done much since. I personally found him lazy and lacking in mobility always waiting for the ball to come to him (his head) and not working defenders when he did not have the ball (unlike Vardy), as you rightly say his floor skills were fairly limited. Remember the penalty he missed in the last minute at home to Man City. IMO Roy has had limited choices with the squad that he had largely inherited, made worse by a fairly long run of long term injuries in a relatively small squad. Sam Allardyce, was manager for 23 games (points per game 1.26), at the end of the season he knew that the team would struggle and when he knew the cash was not there he walked as did Pulis before him. The team has tried to play expansive football under Pardew and FdB and each time we were nearly relegated had their tenue continued. Whereas Roy Has stuck with us and IMO against the odds kept us in the PL. I appreciate that others have different opposing views and that is there right. However what I would like to see now is us all pulling together around Roy and hope he gets the players he wants and the support from the board that he deserves. Don’t want to sound pedantic but Luka missed the Man City penalty, CB missed against Bournemouth, still never understand why he took it or why the other players allowed him to
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Horsham 31 Jul 20 6.34am

Originally posted by Den1923

Sorry Rudi but I have never been great fan of Benteke, in his first season he did score 15 goals and in fairness to him that did probably keep us in the PL. He has not done much since. I personally found him lazy and lacking in mobility always waiting for the ball to come to him (his head) and not working defenders when he did not have the ball (unlike Vardy), as you rightly say his floor skills were fairly limited. Remember the penalty he missed in the last minute at home to Man City. IMO Roy has had limited choices with the squad that he had largely inherited, made worse by a fairly long run of long term injuries in a relatively small squad. Sam Allardyce, was manager for 23 games (points per game 1.26), at the end of the season he knew that the team would struggle and when he knew the cash was not there he walked as did Pulis before him. The team has tried to play expansive football under Pardew and FdB and each time we were nearly relegated had their tenue continued. Whereas Roy Has stuck with us and IMO against the odds kept us in the PL.
I appreciate that others have different opposing views and that is there right. However what I would like to see now is us all pulling together around Roy and hope he gets the players he wants and the support from the board that he deserves.

Don’t want to sound pedantic but Luka missed the Man City penalty, CB missed against Bournemouth, still never understand why he took it or why the other players allowed him to

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 31 Jul 20 8.11am
Originally posted by A1969Eagle Do you remember what they said last year about Roy [Link] Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team? [Tweet Link] "Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...." Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!! Yeah - We must be the envy of the Premier League with the group of hungry and talented players we have. As for four years ago quite a few of those players have proven to be bang average and choked again when offered a bye to the World Cup final two years ago.
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Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Do you remember what they said last year about Roy

[Link]

Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team?

[Tweet Link]

"Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...."

Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!!

Yeah - We must be the envy of the Premier League with the group of hungry and talented players we have.

As for four years ago quite a few of those players have proven to be bang average and choked again when offered a bye to the World Cup final two years ago.

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Sportyteacher London 31 Jul 20 8.30am
Originally posted by Winch Eagle I think it was always a question of timing and ultimately availability of a replacement. Roy has not covered himself in glory after the re start, but it only leaves him vunerable if the club feel there is an ideal replacement out there. Historically the candidate would be English and experienced so the 2 who fit that are potentially available in Dyche and Howe. In my oppinion if the right fit is about now then we need to go with it. Why do we keep believing that the likes of Sean Dyche is going to be drawn to a less successful Premiership team like Palace? His future lies with a Top 6 team and a step up to Europe for which he had a brief taste of via Burnley a couple of seasons ago. Nearest Palace will get to Europe is weekend break via Eurostar at present.
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Sportyteacher

London 31 Jul 20 8.30am

Originally posted by Winch Eagle

I think it was always a question of timing and ultimately availability of a replacement.
Roy has not covered himself in glory after the re start, but it only leaves him vunerable if the club feel there is an ideal replacement out there.
Historically the candidate would be English and experienced so the 2 who fit that are potentially available in Dyche and Howe.
In my oppinion if the right fit is about now then we need to go with it.

Why do we keep believing that the likes of Sean Dyche is going to be drawn to a less successful Premiership team like Palace? His future lies with a Top 6 team and a step up to Europe for which he had a brief taste of via Burnley a couple of seasons ago. Nearest Palace will get to Europe is weekend break via Eurostar at present.

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EddieMac 31 Jul 20 9.03am
Will someone close this thread please? It is 31st of July.
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EddieMac

31 Jul 20 9.03am

Will someone close this thread please? It is 31st of July.

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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 31 Jul 20 9.38am
No one said which year Originally posted by EddieMac Will someone close this thread please? It is 31st of July. I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.
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Apollofuzz

On the edge of reason 31 Jul 20 9.38am

No one said which year

Originally posted by EddieMac

Will someone close this thread please? It is 31st of July.

I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat
I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.

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Eaglecoops CR3 31 Jul 20 9.48am
Originally posted by Apollofuzz No one said which year There you go, it's the attention to detail that is so lacking at our club!
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CR3 31 Jul 20 9.48am

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

No one said which year

There you go, it's the attention to detail that is so lacking at our club!

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jeeagles 31 Jul 20 10.04am
Originally posted by A1969Eagle Do you remember what they said last year about Roy [Link] Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team? [Tweet Link] "Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...." Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!! "It's been a fantastic journey" Going out in the first round of a world cup for the first time ever with 1 point from a draw against Costa Rica and losing to Iceland after drawing with Slovakia and Russia and only scraping past Wales with a last minute winner. Interest in the national team was at an all time low when he left. Southgate only really got the job because of a nationwide appathy towards the role. 2012 was a bit of a free pass due to the circumstances he was hired under, 2014 and 2016 were national embarressments.
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31 Jul 20 10.04am

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Do you remember what they said last year about Roy

[Link]

Do you remember what Roy said when he left England Football team?

[Tweet Link]

"Now is the time for someone else to oversee the progress of this young hungry and extremely talent group...."

Roy you go round in circles, nothing improves.. standing still means going backwards!!

"It's been a fantastic journey"

Going out in the first round of a world cup for the first time ever with 1 point from a draw against Costa Rica and losing to Iceland after drawing with Slovakia and Russia and only scraping past Wales with a last minute winner.

Interest in the national team was at an all time low when he left. Southgate only really got the job because of a nationwide appathy towards the role. 2012 was a bit of a free pass due to the circumstances he was hired under, 2014 and 2016 were national embarressments.

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Eaglecoops CR3 31 Jul 20 10.19am
Originally posted by jeeagles "It's been a fantastic journey" Going out in the first round of a world cup for the first time ever with 1 point from a draw against Costa Rica and losing to Iceland after drawing with Slovakia and Russia and only scraping past Wales with a last minute winner. Interest in the national team was at an all time low when he left. Southgate only really got the job because of a nationwide appathy towards the role. 2012 was a bit of a free pass due to the circumstances he was hired under, 2014 and 2016 were national embarressments. As far as England go I think there is a simple answer to why he didn't succeed. Listen to any football pundit and they will tell you that Roy's system requires complete adherence to a specific plan which is honed by hours after hours of positional work on the training field. With an England team you do not get the opportunity to spend that much time with players and certainly not the days of specific training that he insists on. On that basis alone you will probably find that his teams were not able to implement his tactics which is why they looked so lost out on the pitch against pretty mediocre opposition. That's my take on it, I could be wrong, but those in charge should not have given him the England job if they knew how he works as a manager. You win competitions at the highest level with an inspirational manager who gets the very best out of the players you have, not with a system that you try and shoehorn the players into. Edited by Eaglecoops (31 Jul 2020 10.21am)
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Eaglecoops

CR3 31 Jul 20 10.19am

Originally posted by jeeagles

"It's been a fantastic journey"

As far as England go I think there is a simple answer to why he didn't succeed. Listen to any football pundit and they will tell you that Roy's system requires complete adherence to a specific plan which is honed by hours after hours of positional work on the training field. With an England team you do not get the opportunity to spend that much time with players and certainly not the days of specific training that he insists on.

On that basis alone you will probably find that his teams were not able to implement his tactics which is why they looked so lost out on the pitch against pretty mediocre opposition.

That's my take on it, I could be wrong, but those in charge should not have given him the England job if they knew how he works as a manager.

You win competitions at the highest level with an inspirational manager who gets the very best out of the players you have, not with a system that you try and shoehorn the players into.

Edited by Eaglecoops (31 Jul 2020 10.21am)

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