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deetee 16 Feb 21 4.38pm
I agree. The whole team performance was completely unacceptable, No energy, no commitment, no passion.

deetee

16 Feb 21 4.38pm

I agree. The whole team performance was completely unacceptable, No energy, no commitment, no passion.

Eaglecoops CR3 16 Feb 21 10.53pm
Well Dazza, it’s not just you writing letters to the Board. Perhaps they were inspired by you. For those who haven’t seen it, the Fanatics have written an open letter outlining the problems as they see them and demanding more effort from players and management.

Eaglecoops

CR3 16 Feb 21 10.53pm

Well Dazza, it’s not just you writing letters to the Board. Perhaps they were inspired by you.

For those who haven’t seen it, the Fanatics have written an open letter outlining the problems as they see them and demanding more effort from players and management.

dazza Wallington 16 Feb 21 11.11pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Well Dazza, it’s not just you writing letters to the Board. Perhaps they were inspired by you. For those who haven’t seen it, the Fanatics have written an open letter outlining the problems as they see them and demanding more effort from players and management. Exactly, so pleased there are many more that feel the way I do & for those that criticise hopefully this letter ticks the boxes. See for most of us it’s not about winning every game or spending millions it’s about the attitude & the way we play. Under Roy we are going out defeated before we even start & that is not acceptable, even if some believe our squad is too old or not good enough you still go out & try. Remember the team Pulis inherited we were down but Pulis changed the whole structure & mentality. We need to do this now.

dazza

Wallington 16 Feb 21 11.11pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Well Dazza, it’s not just you writing letters to the Board. Perhaps they were inspired by you.

For those who haven’t seen it, the Fanatics have written an open letter outlining the problems as they see them and demanding more effort from players and management.

Exactly, so pleased there are many more that feel the way I do & for those that criticise hopefully this letter ticks the boxes.

See for most of us it’s not about winning every game or spending millions it’s about the attitude & the way we play.

Under Roy we are going out defeated before we even start & that is not acceptable, even if some believe our squad is too old or not good enough you still go out & try.

Remember the team Pulis inherited we were down but Pulis changed the whole structure & mentality.

We need to do this now.

HKOwen Hong Kong 17 Feb 21 11.10am
Is this the same Roy Hodgson who came to the club when we were on a terrible run and looking certain for relegation.Just asking Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 17 Feb 21 11.10am

Is this the same Roy Hodgson who came to the club when we were on a terrible run and looking certain for relegation.Just asking

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

PatrickA London 17 Feb 21 11.30am
Saved us from almost 'certain relegation' four games into a season? Surely some mistake? By my calculation there were 34 games left with a squad containing Zaha, Cabaye, RLC Tomkins and Sakho,Mcarthur,Townsend and PVA when they were all good. As well as solid pros like Ward and Dann. I'm not suggesting Hodgson didn't do a decent job but he inherited a far superior squad to Pulis and had more time to turn it around.

PatrickA

London 17 Feb 21 11.30am

Saved us from almost 'certain relegation' four games into a season?
Surely some mistake?
By my calculation there were 34 games left with a squad containing Zaha, Cabaye, RLC Tomkins and Sakho,Mcarthur,Townsend and PVA when they were all good.
As well as solid pros like Ward and Dann.
I'm not suggesting Hodgson didn't do a decent job but he inherited a far superior squad to Pulis and had more time to turn it around.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Feb 21 12.03pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Saved us from almost 'certain relegation' four games into a season? Surely some mistake? By my calculation there were 34 games left with a squad containing Zaha, Cabaye, RLC Tomkins and Sakho,Mcarthur,Townsend and PVA when they were all good. As well as solid pros like Ward and Dann. I'm not suggesting Hodgson didn't do a decent job but he inherited a far superior squad to Pulis and had more time to turn it around. What Hodgson didn’t have was a striker for a long period due to more squad mismanagement and squad Kerplunk by Parish. Remember he instructed Zaha and Townsend to get into the box off the wings? With no striker, no points and no goals we were in a mess. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 17 Feb 21 12.03pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

What Hodgson didn’t have was a striker for a long period due to more squad mismanagement and squad Kerplunk by Parish.

Remember he instructed Zaha and Townsend to get into the box off the wings?

With no striker, no points and no goals we were in a mess.

COYP

PatrickA London 17 Feb 21 12.16pm
As opposed to Pulis who had the lethal Jerome up front and no Zaha either!! And in many ways we played our best football under Hodgson when he used Townsend and Zaha as a mobile front pair leaving opposing centre halves nobody to mark. Seems a long time ago since he was prepared to try that sort of innovation.

PatrickA

London 17 Feb 21 12.16pm

As opposed to Pulis who had the lethal Jerome up front and no Zaha either!!

And in many ways we played our best football under Hodgson when he used Townsend and Zaha as a mobile front pair leaving opposing centre halves nobody to mark.
Seems a long time ago since he was prepared to try that sort of innovation.

AERO 17 Feb 21 12.19pm
For me Zaha and Bolaise on each wing with Murray in the middle was very effective and great to watch.And not rocket science tactically either.

AERO

17 Feb 21 12.19pm

For me Zaha and Bolaise on each wing with Murray in the middle was very effective and great to watch.And not rocket science tactically either.

PatrickA London 17 Feb 21 12.23pm
Agreed.My favourite attacking line up at Palace in many years. And I feel it would have flourished in the Premier League had it been given the chance.

PatrickA

London 17 Feb 21 12.23pm

Agreed.My favourite attacking line up at Palace in many years.
And I feel it would have flourished in the Premier League had it been given the chance.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Feb 21 1.31pm
Originally posted by PatrickA As opposed to Pulis who had the lethal Jerome up front and no Zaha either!! And in many ways we played our best football under Hodgson when he used Townsend and Zaha as a mobile front pair leaving opposing centre halves nobody to mark. Seems a long time ago since he was prepared to try that sort of innovation. He certainly gave everything he had chasing defenders down. No wonder he didn’t last 90 minutes. He couldn’t doing that much chasing down on his own with 23% possession. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 17 Feb 21 1.31pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

As opposed to Pulis who had the lethal Jerome up front and no Zaha either!!

He certainly gave everything he had chasing defenders down. No wonder he didn’t last 90 minutes. He couldn’t doing that much chasing down on his own with 23% possession.

COYP

MikeCrete Crete 17 Feb 21 8.39pm
Originally posted by AERO For me Zaha and Bolaise on each wing with Murray in the middle was very effective and great to watch.And not rocket science tactically either. [/quote] Exactly, not exactly rocket science! Just put players in their natural positions and allow them to play.

dazza Wallington 17 Feb 21 8.54pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman What Hodgson didn’t have was a striker for a long period due to more squad mismanagement and squad Kerplunk by Parish. Remember he instructed Zaha and Townsend to get into the box off the wings? With no striker, no points and no goals we were in a mess. No no disrespect but Roy does not know how to get the best out of strikers anyway look what he did with Kane for England made him take the corners so he was not in the middle where he should be. Funny how no other manager has Kane taking corners. He has had strikers for the last 2 seasons still refuses to provide them with any sort of service yet the majority of fans still blame the strikers. It won’t be long till some fans turn on Mateta.

dazza

Wallington 17 Feb 21 8.54pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What Hodgson didn’t have was a striker for a long period due to more squad mismanagement and squad Kerplunk by Parish.

Remember he instructed Zaha and Townsend to get into the box off the wings?

With no striker, no points and no goals we were in a mess.

No no disrespect but Roy does not know how to get the best out of strikers anyway look what he did with Kane for England made him take the corners so he was not in the middle where he should be.

Funny how no other manager has Kane taking corners.

He has had strikers for the last 2 seasons still refuses to provide them with any sort of service yet the majority of fans still blame the strikers.

It won’t be long till some fans turn on Mateta.

HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Feb 21 1.19am
exactly this Originally posted by AERO For me Zaha and Bolaise on each wing with Murray in the middle was very effective and great to watch.And not rocket science tactically either. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 19 Feb 21 1.19am

exactly this

Originally posted by AERO

For me Zaha and Bolaise on each wing with Murray in the middle was very effective and great to watch.And not rocket science tactically either.

HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Feb 21 1.23am
Please read posts carefully. "Looking certain for relegation" is different to " certain relegation ". All opinions welcome and as is the nature of opinions subjective. Using your math if we have continued for the next 34 games with the same ppg how many would we have had at the end of the season? COYP Originally posted by PatrickA Saved us from almost 'certain relegation' four games into a season? Surely some mistake? By my calculation there were 34 games left with a squad containing Zaha, Cabaye, RLC Tomkins and Sakho,Mcarthur,Townsend and PVA when they were all good. As well as solid pros like Ward and Dann. I'm not suggesting Hodgson didn't do a decent job but he inherited a far superior squad to Pulis and had more time to turn it around. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 19 Feb 21 1.23am

Please read posts carefully.

"Looking certain for relegation" is different to
" certain relegation ".

All opinions welcome and as is the nature of opinions subjective.

Using your math if we have continued for the next 34 games with the same ppg how many would we have had at the end of the season?

COYP

Originally posted by PatrickA

PatrickA London 19 Feb 21 8.24am
That’s why the word ‘almost’ was inserted before ‘certain relegation.’ The post was perfectly well understood prior to being responded to. Furthermore, to use the first four games to extrapolate the results for the rest of the season would have meant projecting 34 more defeats. I would have thought this most unlikely. I’ve acknowledged Hodgson did a decent job that season, but the central point was that he he had a good squad and there were 34 games to turn it around which was the vast bulk of the season. Hardly a miracle worker.

PatrickA

London 19 Feb 21 8.24am

That’s why the word ‘almost’ was inserted before ‘certain relegation.’
The post was perfectly well understood prior to being responded to.
Furthermore, to use the first four games to extrapolate the results for the rest of the season would have meant projecting 34 more defeats.
I would have thought this most unlikely.
I’ve acknowledged Hodgson did a decent job that season, but the central point was that he he had a good squad and there were 34 games to turn it around which was the vast bulk of the season.
Hardly a miracle worker.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Feb 21 10.00am
Originally posted by PatrickA That’s why the word ‘almost’ was inserted before ‘certain relegation.’ The post was perfectly well understood prior to being responded to. Furthermore, to use the first four games to extrapolate the results for the rest of the season would have meant projecting 34 more defeats. I would have thought this most unlikely. I’ve acknowledged Hodgson did a decent job that season, but the central point was that he he had a good squad and there were 34 games to turn it around which was the vast bulk of the season. Hardly a miracle worker. Although Mr Hodgson joined after 4 games,after 7 games we had lost the lot and not scored a solitary goal which was a 'first' in the PL. We only won 1 of our first 12 games and were firm favourites for relegation.It was only in our 17th game,home to Watford, when a 2-1 win saw us off the bottom for the first time,accordingly we were bottom for nearly half the season. We finished 11th which was a creditable feat given the above.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Feb 21 10.00am

Originally posted by PatrickA

That’s why the word ‘almost’ was inserted before ‘certain relegation.’
The post was perfectly well understood prior to being responded to.
Furthermore, to use the first four games to extrapolate the results for the rest of the season would have meant projecting 34 more defeats.
I would have thought this most unlikely.
I’ve acknowledged Hodgson did a decent job that season, but the central point was that he he had a good squad and there were 34 games to turn it around which was the vast bulk of the season.
Hardly a miracle worker.

Although Mr Hodgson joined after 4 games,after 7 games we had lost the lot and not scored a solitary goal which was a 'first' in the PL.

We only won 1 of our first 12 games and were firm favourites for relegation.It was only in our 17th game,home to Watford, when a 2-1 win saw us off the bottom for the first time,accordingly we were bottom for nearly half the season.

We finished 11th which was a creditable feat given the above.

PatrickA London 19 Feb 21 10.11am
Yes, so by those statistics we won only one of his first 8 games in charge so he surely contributed to the problem he later ‘rescued’ us from! It can be ‘spun’ any way that people want and of course I am not denying that it was a creditable achievement. But there were plenty of games left and a good squad as highlighted. Pulis inherited a shambles and was the true ‘miracle worker’ although many fans dislike him because of the way he departed. It doesn’t mean Hodgson didn’t do a decent job during the season in question (after his first 8 games)!

PatrickA

London 19 Feb 21 10.11am

Yes, so by those statistics we won only one of his first 8 games in charge so he surely contributed to the problem he later ‘rescued’ us from!
It can be ‘spun’ any way that people want and of course I am not denying that it was a creditable achievement.
But there were plenty of games left and a good squad as highlighted.
Pulis inherited a shambles and was the true ‘miracle worker’ although many fans dislike him because of the way he departed.
It doesn’t mean Hodgson didn’t do a decent job during the season in question (after his first 8 games)!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Feb 21 10.21am
Originally posted by PatrickA Yes, so by those statistics we won only one of his first 8 games in charge so he surely contributed to the problem he later ‘rescued’ us from! It can be ‘spun’ any way that people want and of course I am not denying that it was a creditable achievement. But there were plenty of games left and a good squad as highlighted. Pulis inherited a shambles and was the true ‘miracle worker’ although many fans dislike him because of the way he departed. It doesn’t mean Hodgson didn’t do a decent job during the season in question (after his first 8 games)! Of those 8 games, FDB was in charge for the first 4, Mr Hodgson first 3 games included fixtures against Man C and Man Utd, both away.Our first win was against Chelsea which was remarkable in the circumstances.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Feb 21 10.21am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Yes, so by those statistics we won only one of his first 8 games in charge so he surely contributed to the problem he later ‘rescued’ us from!
It can be ‘spun’ any way that people want and of course I am not denying that it was a creditable achievement.
But there were plenty of games left and a good squad as highlighted.
Pulis inherited a shambles and was the true ‘miracle worker’ although many fans dislike him because of the way he departed.
It doesn’t mean Hodgson didn’t do a decent job during the season in question (after his first 8 games)!

Of those 8 games, FDB was in charge for the first 4, Mr Hodgson first 3 games included fixtures against Man C and Man Utd, both away.Our first win was against Chelsea which was remarkable in the circumstances.

PatrickA London 19 Feb 21 10.29am
With the utmost respect you said, and I quote, ‘We won only 1 of our first 12 games.’ If this is correct FDB was only manager of the first 4 with Hodgson in charge of the subsequent 8. Did you make a mistake in your statement?

PatrickA

London 19 Feb 21 10.29am

With the utmost respect you said, and I quote,
‘We won only 1 of our first 12 games.’
If this is correct FDB was only manager of the first 4 with Hodgson in charge of the subsequent 8.
Did you make a mistake in your statement?

cpfccccc Bromley 19 Feb 21 10.31am
I believe no other team has stayed up after losing the first 7 games, and as Willo has pointed out 2 of the 3 games Ray lost were against Man City and United. Ray did a great job and to deny this seems bizarre to me There are plenty of good reasons why Roy should go, but there seems to be more and more posters that are reaching and blaming Roy for everything even if it has nothing to do with him

cpfccccc

Bromley 19 Feb 21 10.31am

I believe no other team has stayed up after losing the first 7 games, and as Willo has pointed out 2 of the 3 games Ray lost were against Man City and United.

Ray did a great job and to deny this seems bizarre to me

There are plenty of good reasons why Roy should go, but there seems to be more and more posters that are reaching and blaming Roy for everything even if it has nothing to do with him

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