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Painter Flag Croydon 20 Jun 24 7.24pm

Originally posted by YT

Absolute sh!te!

TAA?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jun 24 7.30pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

No, it’s the players. Despite their experience and skill, the fear of defeat is greater than their desire to win. For phuck sake run at the opponents not run it back across your defensive line. And what was Pickford doing coming to the half way line to take a free kick only to pass it 5 yards to Walker to kick it out of play?!

What you are saying here in the first part is what attitude the players should have and that is entirely under the direction of the manager.

The players in the England team are more than capable of winning the tournament.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 20 Jun 24 7.33pm

Originally posted by Painter

TAA?

I meant the whole team but, yes, he was particularly bad as was Rice. I wonder if it's too late for Rice to change his preferred nationality again.

 


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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 20 Jun 24 7.39pm

Most of us know GS is a useless tactician, but can someone please explain the lethargy of the England team? They look knackered.

On the rare occasins England speed up they can look effective.

Also and this is so basic I can't believe I'm saying it, the vast majority of England's passes are right at the player, instead of being where the player can run on to it. No fluidity. Anyone else notice this?

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jun 24 7.42pm

Guehi was England's best player. Andersen good for Denmark too. Unfortunately Eze looked lost. Not sure what was going on there.

 


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Elpis Flag In a pub 20 Jun 24 7.45pm

Cant believe Southgate saying TAA plays in the middle because we have nobody else , that Foden plays left because we have nobody else , that Trippier plays left back ect ect .Who picks the squad ,who picks the team ?

The TAA experiment should be consigned to the bin
Change the formation to suit the players
Kane is finished as our first choice striker

Boring Boring England

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Jun 24 7.49pm

Awful pitch for a major competition, still same for both sides.

Guehi the pick, otherwise it was not a good look.

The looked well knackered at the end, too.

Top of the group on 4 pts.

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 20 Jun 24 7.51pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Guehi was England's best player. Andersen good for Denmark too. Unfortunately Eze looked lost. Not sure what was going on there.

I’d suggest there’s two reasons Eze looked lost:

1. He’s not a LW.
2. Southgate is not a football manager judging by anything we’ve seen on the pitch from England. What are his tactics? What’s his game plan? What’s his style? He’s the FA’s loyal son and perhaps created a pink cloud upon which a group of very talented players performed well for a couple tournaments.

Our midfield was near absent today. The ball kept going loose in the middle and there was never anybody from our side near it. As a result, there was no flow through our team, we only ever got forward when somebody charged solitary with the ball. Eze, Foden, Saka, Bowen, Kane, Watkins, Bellingham. All these players will look quite uninspired and ordinary if we have no plan to move the ball forward and rely upon them to single-handedly create something in the inevitable tactical vacuum. Southgate is not a football manager.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 24 7.52pm

A dreadful,lacklustre, lethargic performance from England.They looked totally devoid of any organisation and ideas.A dearth of movement, surrendering possession, players not playing in their best positions.
All-in-all absolute excreta.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jun 24 7.58pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I’d suggest there’s two reasons Eze looked lost:

1. He’s not a LW.
2. Southgate is not a football manager judging by anything we’ve seen on the pitch from England. What are his tactics? What’s his game plan? What’s his style? He’s the FA’s loyal son and perhaps created a pink cloud upon which a group of very talented players performed well for a couple tournaments.

Our midfield was near absent today. The ball kept going loose in the middle and there was never anybody from our side near it. As a result, there was no flow through our team, we only ever got forward when somebody charged solitary with the ball. Eze, Foden, Saka, Bowen, Kane, Watkins, Bellingham. All these players will look quite uninspired and ordinary if we have no plan to move the ball forward and rely upon them to single-handedly create something in the inevitable tactical vacuum. Southgate is not a football manager.

I thought Eze was largely playing left inside forward for us under Glasner - that was what I presumed he was picked for. Maybe I'm wrong as I obviously don't have our tactical plan. He could be a roaming playmaker or something like that.

I agree on the tactics unfortunately. I don't know where to start on that. The basics first and then work from there.

Something I haven't seen mentioned is that it seems to me that literally everyone now plays with a back three. Then we keep on coming out and saying how hard it is to play against a back three. I would think that there are two options: two advanced up front - or play with a back three yourself if it's that effective.

 


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EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 20 Jun 24 8.04pm

England, the tournament favorites, marching on unbeaten!

(Because not one of them seem to be able to run, let alone pass forward)

 

Elpis Flag In a pub 20 Jun 24 8.05pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I’d suggest there’s two reasons Eze looked lost:

1. He’s not a LW.
2. Southgate is not a football manager judging by anything we’ve seen on the pitch from England. What are his tactics? What’s his game plan? What’s his style? He’s the FA’s loyal son and perhaps created a pink cloud upon which a group of very talented players performed well for a couple tournaments.

Our midfield was near absent today. The ball kept going loose in the middle and there was never anybody from our side near it. As a result, there was no flow through our team, we only ever got forward when somebody charged solitary with the ball. Eze, Foden, Saka, Bowen, Kane, Watkins, Bellingham. All these players will look quite uninspired and ordinary if we have no plan to move the ball forward and rely upon them to single-handedly create something in the inevitable tactical vacuum. Southgate is not a football manager.

I wouldn't say they have performed well in a couple of tournaments , they performed OK , beat teams they were supposed to beat and didn't against anyone half decent . I would agree Southgate is not a football manager

 

BeckenhamSteve Flag beckenham 20 Jun 24 8.55pm


"The tactics are a mess and if anyone should be able to recognise it, it's Palace fans because it's exactly how Hodgson set us up."

I have to agree with this. It sounds ridiculous to make comparisons between Palace and England but when Glasner took over from Hodgson he invigorated our squad and got us playing a much more aggressive and attacking game. This reminds me of how England are playing right now and we all know what happened next.

Southgate is so negative and passive when we have such a wonderful bunch of players that should be setting this tournament alight but we're going to miss out yet again. Can you imagine what Glasner would get out of this squad!

Edited by BeckenhamSteve (20 Jun 2024 8.58pm)

 

MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 20 Jun 24 9.07pm

Originally posted by BeckenhamSteve


"The tactics are a mess and if anyone should be able to recognise it, it's Palace fans because it's exactly how Hodgson set us up."

I have to agree with this. It sounds ridiculous to make comparisons between Palace and England but when Glasner took over from Hodgson he invigorated our squad and got us playing a much more aggressive and attacking game. This reminds me of how England are playing right now and we all know what happened next.

Southgate is so negative and passive when we have such a wonderful bunch of players that should be setting this tournament alight but we're going to miss out yet again. Can you imagine what Glasner would get out of this squad!

Edited by BeckenhamSteve (20 Jun 2024 8.58pm)

Indeed, we have seen first hand how a different system and tactics can change a team. (A team that still included Hughes and Clyne).

We know the players are good enough, we see them every week.

Hopefully the press now can get out of Southgate's backside, and realise we've been playing with a hand break for a while now.

 

Elpis Flag In a pub 20 Jun 24 9.15pm

Southgate " we have never really replaced Calvin Phillips"

Will someone at the FA just drag this idiot somewhere he wont be found for the next month .Never had a clue as a club manager and is exposed at international level time and time again .

Just not good enough,Ive enjoyed every other game Ive watched but this was just pony and million miles away from Spain V Italy Im watching now .

 

Painter Flag Croydon 20 Jun 24 9.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

A dreadful,lacklustre, lethargic performance from England.They looked totally devoid of any organisation and ideas.A dearth of movement, surrendering possession, players not playing in their best positions.
All-in-all absolute excreta.

I am not a highly paid manager, but it seems obvious to me playing Tripper at left back, means we have no attack down the left as he doesnt overlap and cross a ball, as he has to cut back. So whoever plays left wing has no support, Mitchell would be a better option. Why play a right back in midfield, who just walks around and gives the ball away constantly. They have obviously had to tactic to press the opposition as they think they are too good to do that.
Our media sense of entitlement claiming we are favourites etc is embarrassing, I expect other major teams think we are a joke.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 20 Jun 24 10.03pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Southgate " we have never really replaced Calvin Phillips"

Will someone at the FA just drag this idiot somewhere he wont be found for the next month .Never had a clue as a club manager and is exposed at international level time and time again .

Just not good enough,Ive enjoyed every other game Ive watched but this was just pony and million miles away from Spain V Italy Im watching now .

Spot on.

 

Elpis Flag In a pub 20 Jun 24 10.03pm

Originally posted by Painter

I am not a highly paid manager, but it seems obvious to me playing Tripper at left back, means we have no attack down the left as he doesnt overlap and cross a ball, as he has to cut back. So whoever plays left wing has no support, Mitchell would be a better option. Why play a right back in midfield, who just walks around and gives the ball away constantly. They have obviously had to tactic to press the opposition as they think they are too good to do that.
Our media sense of entitlement claiming we are favourites etc is embarrassing, I expect other major teams think we are a joke.


Yes wokegate gambled on Shaw being fit and thats backfired and not to take cover was a big error . The only thing that will save our euros is a player revolt ,a change of formation and some attacking intent

 

XKudu Flag The Midlands, England 20 Jun 24 11.00pm

Southgate quoting Kalvin Phillips who personified drudgery is more than worrying.

I’ve concluded it’s not Southgate’s fault. He probably knows he’s sh1t but says ‘I’m on £3m a year and will press on…’

The problem is that complete idiot Mark Bullingham ceo at FA. I knew him when he was a little lackie working on the Whitbread Round the World yacht race in the 90’s.

To think he know controls football appointments is utterly horrifying.

 

Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 21 Jun 24 6.07am

What’s the betting we see more lethargic passing back, sideways and occasionally forth in our own half, in reaction to his “We didn’t keep the ball” revelation?

Edited by Eaglehamster (21 Jun 2024 6.08am)

 


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