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 steeleye20  Croydon 16 May 17 6.16pm |
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I am voting Delaney for a United Ireland.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 May 17 6.19pm |
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 16 May 17 6.23pm |
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Has it been amendd to cover off Corbyn's interview with Peston?
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 16 May 17 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Another interesting way of looking at Corbyn's leadership credentials: if he'd been leader at the time, would he have committed the same f*ck ups as recent leaders? Would he have sold off council housing without replacing it? Would he have deregulated the banks before the crash? Would he have gone in to Iraq? Would he have sold off the gold, the Royal Mail, the trains at record low prices? Would he have allowed the biggest referendum in our life times to have been a simple yes/no question? Would he have brought in the bedroom tax? Would he have f*cked a dead pig as part of a bet with his Etonian chums? Who is the bad leader then?
Given his previous with the IRA he would probably have sent British troops to defend the taliban
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 16 May 17 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by npn
I quite like the manifesto. Now, if they would just sack MacDonnell and Abbott, I could consider voting for them (I'd rather get shot of Corbyn too, but that's just for external facing foreign credibility issues - I don't think he's necessarily stupid or incompetent) Individually there are some good ideas in there. Collectively I doubt half of it can be achieved and some of it shouldn't even be attempted
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| matt_himself Matataland 16 May 17 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Quite impressed with the labour manifesto presents the case concisely and easy to read. Jeremy Corbyn seems to be relishing the campaign enjoying the pressure and benefiting from the PMs absence of any sort of personality. It's a shame that he is 16 to 20 points behind in the polls, will get wiped out in Scotland, will be marginalised in Wales and lose seats in Northern England.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 16 May 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No I didn't. You just misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted. Obviously I am stating that it would be silly to elect someone who you knew that...given a situation of great peril for the country....You would have to remove to ensure that any nuclear counter action was a possible risk for the enemy. And this is saying that the time frames made this kind of action even possible.....Which it most probably wouldn't.
The Establishment won't let Corbyn be PM. You have had a general go on the Andrew Marr show and fairly explicitly suggest that there would be a military coup if he did. Even though his own view is one of sticking to the unilateral disarmament treaty, which all major nations have signed up to, even though he has ceded to his party on this, even though all he is saying is that nuclear weapons are unimaginably horrific and tragic. When Ramsay McDonald was leader, they put out the Zinoviev letter to force him out. There were military units ready to overthrow Wilson in the Cold War. Corbyn would represent an even greater threat to the military industrial complex in this countty than them. These are the c'nts we're up against. When even at a time where no nation on this planet poses a nuclear threat to our land, they are on the F*CKING TV pledging a coup should he come in! These people are money-grabbing war-mongering c*nts of the highest order and i would f*cking love it if Corbyn took them on.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 16 May 17 6.56pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
It's a shame that he is 16 to 20 points behind in the polls, will get wiped out in Scotland, will be marginalised in Wales and lose seats in Northern England. Easier to just say "he's a c*nt"
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 May 17 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I prefer 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'....it's more realistic. I always knew you were a Philip K Dick fan!
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 16 May 17 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Given his previous with the IRA he would probably have sent British troops to defend the taliban What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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| Stirlingsays 16 May 17 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it. I'm sorry, comparisons in attitude towards the IRA between Thatcher and Corbyn are not only inappropriate but risible. You are in little valid position to fairly criticise anyone else when you make that comparison.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 16 May 17 7.20pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it.
His stance has been well documented. As for the things he's voted against. It is easy to be a rebel when you're sitting on the back benches. Look at his apparent change on trident
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| matt_himself Matataland 16 May 17 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Easier to just say "he's a c*nt" Sir, I cannot disagree.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 May 17 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by npn
I quite like the manifesto. Now, if they would just sack MacDonnell and Abbott, I could consider voting for them (I'd rather get shot of Corbyn too, but that's just for external facing foreign credibility issues - I don't think he's necessarily stupid or incompetent) So you like labour but want to sack them? I like it as they could be elected in that case and be unable to do anything
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 16 May 17 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
What an absurd response. He's made quite a few decent points there, especially on corporation tax rates and the lack of opportunities to large amounts of the country provided by this and previous Tory governments. You've jumped on one point that you disagree with and described and then claimed the post lacks credibility. Sadly evidence suggests that the Tories either are elitist and unfairly treat the least well off or are simply careless and bad at running the country. Or both. Just look at the pamphlets they released with fake disabled people on praising their anti-disability policies. That link is dated: Tuesday 18 August 2015 20.25 BST So really old news now.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 16 May 17 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I'm coming from a position of prejudice by responding to someone in a detailed post who says that labour hate the rich?? What are you going on about? I wrote line after line of questions, genuinely trying to understand your view, I only engage to understand different views, I don't understand people who argue about politics just for the sake of arguing, what's the point? A tiny little piece I made the statement that tories make you believe the poor are lazy, you've called me ignorant and prejudice yet ignore every single other point brought up which, again, was brought up after you claimed that Labour hate the rich. You're supposed to be the Tory expert, I asked you the questions to try and understand the reasoning behind your statements and all you can do is throw your toys out the pram, call me ignorant and tell me to jog on. Typical type of s*** really isn't it Edited by Mstrobez (16 May 2017 6.15pm) But they do that is a known fact. Labour think by taxing the better paid people they can make all these wonderful work like, Nationalise the railways, the post office, the water companies etc.. what a load of tosh. It has been proved by George Osborne that by lowering the tax threshold on the rich the government will rake in more money as when you tax the better off with high taxes they either move away or stop in vesting. Labour has ALWAYS been a high taxing and borrowing party and is why we are in the sh1t we are and paying back so much money. Labour if in power would bankrupt the country and we would ALLbe worse off as happened before.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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