Pouring in with a pinch of salt?

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Bit early here at 10.38am est, but...ok.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Ah! An injection of levity. Another tired old tactic when the truth is knocking.

The most concerning thing about Tommy Robinson is that he never actually says anything racist. He’s very smart and an excellent communicator. His agenda is obviously anti Muslim and his portral of the religion isn’t balanced.

Unfortunately, the lefties are so quick to attack anyone (there’s at least one on this thread) and so vocal it’s almost impossible to have a reasoned debate about people about these issues.

There’s traits that people from other cultures have that are clearly unacceptable in Britain. For instance, and Italian yesterday took my reserved table in a pub and then refused to move. Europeans have a different attitude to this sort of thing that us. When in Rome, what he did might have been fine, but he wasn’t in Rome. It’s a small example, but all these small cultural clashes add up to result in division. We need people to be able to politely explain why some actions in the UK are considered just not cricket.

It's like taking that one incident and saying all Italians are rude and they will swarm into the UK to steal all our restaurant tables unless we take action now. Splash it across the front page of the tabloids

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Yep, I think it's accurate to say that Robinson is very anti Islamic.

He thinks that Islam is totally incompatible with western values and that while he does sit down and discuss differences with Islamic reformers he views them as on the losing side in Islam.

I'm a little more optimistic than he is....but the realist in me feels he might be right.

Well, if there is Brexit the EU percentage of immigrants will head downwards and then it'll be a focus upon the non EU element.

With AI automation coming in our politicians really need to think longer term. They should be adopting 'working migrant' policies like Japan and not issuing out naturalisations to foreigners who then produce children with identity issues creating the victimisation culture we are experiencing...which then leads to anti meritocratic policies like affirmative action....all encouraged by most of the current politically active left.

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No it isn't because if Islam was about stealing tables then we wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't see many Italians strapping bombs to themselves or proposing to kill people who are not italian, gays, jews, treat women as property, stone people or cuts their heads/hands off etc.

Can you not see a difference FFS?

As I said before, how many terrorist incidents to we need before you consider this a real problem? At the moment we have a group of about 4% of people responsible for 85% of terrorism.

And if to prove point. This is how you end up with disproportionate and irrational response to minor issues from both the left and the right.

A few years ago I was in Budapest during the Syrian migrant crisis. One side where calling it an invasion of spongers, the other were calling it a refuge crises.

In reality, there were about 50 people trying to board trains. The numbers got bigger each side the right responded to the left and visa versa.

A few MP's will be able to stand upin Parliament and say 'I told you so' and the rest will be trying to find ways to ignore it and carry on as usual, I expect.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

It'll be a nice explicit rebuke to a house that is supposed to be....ultimately a representative institution.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)