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DanH SW2 08 Nov 18 3.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What gets me is the total lack of respect Trump gets from the media. He is the President for god sake. He might be unpresidential in his approach but he has never been in office. He has his own individual style. If you don't respect the man, surely, you still have to respect the office. This is not happening. No President has ever received the disrespect that Trump has. It's because he's a c*nt, mate.

DanH

SW2 08 Nov 18 3.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What gets me is the total lack of respect Trump gets from the media. He is the President for god sake.

He might be unpresidential in his approach but he has never been in office. He has his own individual style.
If you don't respect the man, surely, you still have to respect the office. This is not happening.

No President has ever received the disrespect that Trump has.

It's because he's a c*nt, mate.

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Nov 18 4.39pm
Originally posted by DanH It's because he's a cnt, mate. But he is President Cnt and that means you respect that. What do we have left if we don't accept and respect a democratically elected President? I think the problem lies with the moronic liberal/left/identity obsessed and their inability to accept defeat. The same is true of Remainers. Peas in a pod.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Nov 18 4.39pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's because he's a c*nt, mate.

But he is President C*nt and that means you respect that.

What do we have left if we don't accept and respect a democratically elected President?
I think the problem lies with the moronic liberal/left/identity obsessed and their inability to accept defeat.

The same is true of Remainers. Peas in a pod.

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Nov 18 4.47pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals. I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays. Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door. That is media rubbish that you gladly lap up. What divides America are the same things that always have. Origin, wealth and historical resentments. The Identity politics of the Left and the self interested are making it worse. What a surprise that they then blame Trump.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Nov 18 4.47pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals.

I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays.

Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door.

That is media rubbish that you gladly lap up.

What divides America are the same things that always have. Origin, wealth and historical resentments. The Identity politics of the Left and the self interested are making it worse. What a surprise that they then blame Trump.

DanH SW2 08 Nov 18 4.55pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger But he is President C*nt and that means you respect that. What do we have left if we don't accept and respect a democratically elected President? I think the problem lies with the moronic liberal/left/identity obsessed and their inability to accept defeat. The same is true of Remainers. Peas in a pod. Do you respect every democratically elected leader in the world then?

DanH

SW2 08 Nov 18 4.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But he is President C*nt and that means you respect that.

What do we have left if we don't accept and respect a democratically elected President?
I think the problem lies with the moronic liberal/left/identity obsessed and their inability to accept defeat.

The same is true of Remainers. Peas in a pod.

Do you respect every democratically elected leader in the world then?

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 5.16pm
Originally posted by DanH It's because he's a c*nt, mate. That's pretty petty and childish. I seem to remember someone typing that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 5.16pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's because he's a c*nt, mate.

That's pretty petty and childish.

I seem to remember someone typing that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 08 Nov 18 5.21pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's pretty petty and childish. I seem to remember someone typing that. Petty and childish are my middle names

DanH

SW2 08 Nov 18 5.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's pretty petty and childish.

I seem to remember someone typing that.

Petty and childish are my middle names

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 5.26pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals. I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays. Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door. That's quite frankly extremely one eyed. The Democrats have been playing identity politics for years.....the Republicans weren't until Trump and even he is just a dog whistle compared to the Democrat's outright blatant shouting from the roof tops. While I agree with you that credentials are one thing and individuals another I don't think you can take it to the extremes of not respecting democratic choices. I didn't respect Obama but I've no doubt you did....even though either China nor Russia did. I didn't however agree with the ridiculous behaviour of rednecks in the tea party in respect to him or Trump's behaviour come to it.....However I see no such better standards in behaviour from the democrats today.....Perhaps from Sanders but very few elsewhere. The way the Democrats and the general biased click bait US media have chosen to tackle Trump has been a disgrace....they have shown themselves to be poor losers and most of them not worthy of any of the self regard they seem to hold themselves in. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 5.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals.

I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays.

Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door.

That's quite frankly extremely one eyed.

The Democrats have been playing identity politics for years.....the Republicans weren't until Trump and even he is just a dog whistle compared to the Democrat's outright blatant shouting from the roof tops.

While I agree with you that credentials are one thing and individuals another I don't think you can take it to the extremes of not respecting democratic choices.

I didn't respect Obama but I've no doubt you did....even though either China nor Russia did. I didn't however agree with the ridiculous behaviour of rednecks in the tea party in respect to him or Trump's behaviour come to it.....However I see no such better standards in behaviour from the democrats today.....Perhaps from Sanders but very few elsewhere.

The way the Democrats and the general biased click bait US media have chosen to tackle Trump has been a disgrace....they have shown themselves to be poor losers and most of them not worthy of any of the self regard they seem to hold themselves in.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 5.28pm
Originally posted by DanH Petty and childish are my middle names Is this a form of letting off accountancy steam perhaps? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 5.28pm

Originally posted by DanH

Petty and childish are my middle names

Is this a form of letting off accountancy steam perhaps?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

.TUX. 08 Nov 18 5.32pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals. I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays. Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door. The nation was already divided, massively. To blame that on Trump is ridiculous tbh. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

08 Nov 18 5.32pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals.

I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays.

Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door.

The nation was already divided, massively. To blame that on Trump is ridiculous tbh.

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 08 Nov 18 5.35pm
Originally posted by DanH It's because he's a c*nt, mate. He can't be, as that would imply he is of some use to somebody. Trying to do a deal now to avoid investigation of his tax affairs, his face has a resigned look. Tax? It's errrrrr 'complicated'

steeleye20

Croydon 08 Nov 18 5.35pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's because he's a c*nt, mate.

He can't be, as that would imply he is of some use to somebody.

Trying to do a deal now to avoid investigation of his tax affairs, his face has a resigned look.

Tax? It's errrrrr 'complicated'

Mapletree Croydon 08 Nov 18 5.36pm
Originally posted by .TUX. The nation was already divided, massively. To blame that on Trump is ridiculous tbh. I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better.

Mapletree

Croydon 08 Nov 18 5.36pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

The nation was already divided, massively. To blame that on Trump is ridiculous tbh.

I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better.

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 5.47pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 He can't be, as that would imply he is of some use to somebody. Trying to do a deal now to avoid investigation of his tax affairs, his face has a resigned look. Tax? It's errrrrr 'complicated' He has the senate, they are stuck with him.....if the Democrats wish to spend their time with the house of representatives doing 'Trump derangement' rather than looking to make deals and being rational.....it's only going to look bad for 2020.....elections are won by winning the 'don't knows'. Given demographics the Democrats shouldn't be losing elections....it's a kind of joke.....that amount of media control and money and they can't even close an open door on a guy caught in audio saying he likes to grab 'women by the pussy'. That's how weak the Democrats are....only a party that lacking in talent and sense could lose to Trump. Now he's improved the economy's base figures....when they said he would break them. Trump has a good chance in 2020......and quite frankly that's even more of a joke on the democrats than 2016 was. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.49pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 5.47pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

He can't be, as that would imply he is of some use to somebody.

Trying to do a deal now to avoid investigation of his tax affairs, his face has a resigned look.

Tax? It's errrrrr 'complicated'

He has the senate, they are stuck with him.....if the Democrats wish to spend their time with the house of representatives doing 'Trump derangement' rather than looking to make deals and being rational.....it's only going to look bad for 2020.....elections are won by winning the 'don't knows'.

Given demographics the Democrats shouldn't be losing elections....it's a kind of joke.....that amount of media control and money and they can't even close an open door on a guy caught in audio saying he likes to grab 'women by the pussy'.

That's how weak the Democrats are....only a party that lacking in talent and sense could lose to Trump.

Now he's improved the economy's base figures....when they said he would break them.

Trump has a good chance in 2020......and quite frankly that's even more of a joke on the democrats than 2016 was.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.49pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 5.52pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better. Look at how the demographics of the country vote....I posted a link to it earlier. Frankly...minorities are never going to vote for republicans at anything like the numbers required. The route of identity politics is where it's heading....the republicans have quite frankly been quite late to the show compared to the Democrats and spent a lot of time fighting Trump....... but once the cat is out of the bag....I don't see how the direction changes. The republicans will never win playing for unity government....not going to work......That's what Romney and McCain did.....Where did that get them? Perhaps it would be interesting if they ran with Rubio to increase the Hispanic vote.....but something tells me that wouldn't work either. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.56pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 5.52pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better.

Look at how the demographics of the country vote....I posted a link to it earlier.

Frankly...minorities are never going to vote for republicans at anything like the numbers required.

The route of identity politics is where it's heading....the republicans have quite frankly been quite late to the show compared to the Democrats and spent a lot of time fighting Trump....... but once the cat is out of the bag....I don't see how the direction changes.

The republicans will never win playing for unity government....not going to work......That's what Romney and McCain did.....Where did that get them?

Perhaps it would be interesting if they ran with Rubio to increase the Hispanic vote.....but something tells me that wouldn't work either.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.56pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 08 Nov 18 5.56pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals. I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays. Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door. and a failed business man. If it wasn't due to media attention driven wannabe playboy exploits, he would never have been in then position he is. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 08 Nov 18 5.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Quite simply it is very hard to show respect for someone that is always pugnacious, picking fights for his own personal gain, and deeply self-centred. He does not have any morals.

I find the idea of respecting 'the office' extraordinarily old fashioned. People respect others because of what they do and say nowadays.

Trump has chosen to divide his nation. That is completely clear. It's amazing the impact one man can have, albeit he must have been pushing at an open door.

and a failed business man. If it wasn't due to media attention driven wannabe playboy exploits, he would never have been in then position he is.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Mapletree Croydon 08 Nov 18 6.05pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Look at how the demographics of the country vote....I posted a link to it earlier. Frankly...minorities are never going to vote for republicans at anything like the numbers required. The route of identity politics is where it's heading....the republicans have quite frankly been quite late to the show compared to the Democrats and spent a lot of time fighting Trump....... but once the cat is out of the bag....I don't see how the direction changes. The republicans will never win playing for unity government....not going to work......That's what Romney and McCain did.....Where did that get them? Perhaps it would be interesting if they ran with Rubio to increase the Hispanic vote.....but something tells me that wouldn't work either. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.56pm) I think (?) we agree He chose to divide the vote as much as he could as the best way to win for himself. In reality that may well play against the long term interests of the Republicans and the American public itself. But he let the genie out of the bottle, very purposefully. So why would anyone ask what is wrong with the man. He is amoral and ridiculously uncaring. Frankly to me at a distance he looks like a psychopath.

Mapletree

Croydon 08 Nov 18 6.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Look at how the demographics of the country vote....I posted a link to it earlier.

Frankly...minorities are never going to vote for republicans at anything like the numbers required.

The republicans will never win playing for unity government....not going to work......That's what Romney and McCain did.....Where did that get them?

Perhaps it would be interesting if they ran with Rubio to increase the Hispanic vote.....but something tells me that wouldn't work either.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 5.56pm)

I think (?) we agree

He chose to divide the vote as much as he could as the best way to win for himself.

In reality that may well play against the long term interests of the Republicans and the American public itself. But he let the genie out of the bottle, very purposefully.

So why would anyone ask what is wrong with the man. He is amoral and ridiculously uncaring. Frankly to me at a distance he looks like a psychopath.

Stirlingsays 08 Nov 18 6.20pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I think (?) we agree He chose to divide the vote as much as he could as the best way to win for himself. In reality that may well play against the long term interests of the Republicans and the American public itself. But he let the genie out of the bottle, very purposefully. So why would anyone ask what is wrong with the man. He is amoral and ridiculously uncaring. Frankly to me at a distance he looks like a psychopath. I don't think it's fair to accuse Trump of 'letting the genie out of the bottle' when the Democrats have been doing it for years.....hell, since the first Clinton. However there's no doubt that Trump has headed down this direction and I agree it's a short term success for the Republicans.....I don't know about it doing any long term damage because long term the Republicans as an electoral force are dead in the water in the US. The Republicans will become an Identitarian movement as all the old Republicans retire and die off......I don't see another path for them. I'm pretty pessimistic about the future for America....it's going to be about identity and eventually proper socialism and secession conflicts...and it's not going to be pretty and pretty dangerous globally......but hey, that's thanks to the idiots who pushed multiculturalism and immigration...though they will be long dead their descendants...who will have to deal with the reality of their idealism and what they lost....they will curse them. But Trump is just a symptom of these changes, for where we are now....not the cause of them. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 10.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Nov 18 6.20pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I think (?) we agree

He chose to divide the vote as much as he could as the best way to win for himself.

In reality that may well play against the long term interests of the Republicans and the American public itself. But he let the genie out of the bottle, very purposefully.

So why would anyone ask what is wrong with the man. He is amoral and ridiculously uncaring. Frankly to me at a distance he looks like a psychopath.

I don't think it's fair to accuse Trump of 'letting the genie out of the bottle' when the Democrats have been doing it for years.....hell, since the first Clinton.

However there's no doubt that Trump has headed down this direction and I agree it's a short term success for the Republicans.....I don't know about it doing any long term damage because long term the Republicans as an electoral force are dead in the water in the US.

The Republicans will become an Identitarian movement as all the old Republicans retire and die off......I don't see another path for them.

I'm pretty pessimistic about the future for America....it's going to be about identity and eventually proper socialism and secession conflicts...and it's not going to be pretty and pretty dangerous globally......but hey, that's thanks to the idiots who pushed multiculturalism and immigration...though they will be long dead their descendants...who will have to deal with the reality of their idealism and what they lost....they will curse them.

But Trump is just a symptom of these changes, for where we are now....not the cause of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2018 10.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 08 Nov 18 7.11pm
The solution for the USA. Trump is an asle bump him off. Who would not meddle or do anything? Prince Charles**. Available now on a free from the UK provided they pay, as we are skint with brexit coming.

steeleye20

Croydon 08 Nov 18 7.11pm

The solution for the USA.

Trump is an a*s***le bump him off.

Who would not meddle or do anything?

Prince Charles.

Available now on a free from the UK provided they pay, as we are skint with brexit coming.

.TUX. 08 Nov 18 10.15pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better. What's the reason the door was opening in the first place? This has been many years in the making and again it's nothing to do with Trump. As for making things worse, what exactly? Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

08 Nov 18 10.15pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I didn't blame him, I said it was his choice. Literally divide and rule. I also said he was pushing at an open door but it was his choice to make things worse not better.

What's the reason the door was opening in the first place? This has been many years in the making and again it's nothing to do with Trump.
As for making things worse, what exactly?

Buy Litecoin.

Mapletree Croydon 08 Nov 18 10.50pm
Originally posted by .TUX. What's the reason the door was opening in the first place? This has been many years in the making and again it's nothing to do with Trump. As for making things worse, what exactly? Balkanisation.

Mapletree

Croydon 08 Nov 18 10.50pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

What's the reason the door was opening in the first place? This has been many years in the making and again it's nothing to do with Trump.
As for making things worse, what exactly?

Balkanisation.

DanH SW2 09 Nov 18 8.30am
This from Emily Maitlis is a very interesting read, and actually adds a lot of weight to what you’re saying Penge too. [Link] On the bloody BBC too.

DanH

SW2 09 Nov 18 8.30am

This from Emily Maitlis is a very interesting read, and actually adds a lot of weight to what you’re saying Penge too.

[Link]

On the bloody BBC too.

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