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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards berlinpalace Flag berlin 24 Jan 23 9.49pm

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I too would have thought that, and I thought when leaving Wembley all those years ago after winning promotion that if we could stay up that first season and with a bit of shrewd management it would be the making of us…. But 10 seasons later and with over £1bn quid we’ve seemed to have fvcked it right up.

Or alternatively, we’ve spent close to f*** all compared to some of the wealthiest clubs on the planet and some others with sugar daddy owners and we’ve still got by relatively comfortably and we now have a top notch academy bang in the middle of one of the biggest talent pools in Europe.

 

Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 24 Jan 23 9.53pm

Here, Here

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Or alternatively, we’ve spent close to f*** all compared to some of the wealthiest clubs on the planet and some others with sugar daddy owners and we’ve still got by relatively comfortably and we now have a top notch academy bang in the middle of one of the biggest talent pools in Europe.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Jan 23 10.25pm

FORMER CRYSTAL PALACE STRIKER ALEXANDER SORLOTH CAN’T STOP SCORING IN SPAIN.

Sorloth famously started just four Premier League games during the most forgettable of spells at Selhurst Park. Though a tally of 12 goals in just 16 starts at Sociedad is proof of how effective this powerhouse centre-forward can be.

-.-'

 

Helmet46 Flag Croydon 25 Jan 23 7.26am

Report on the BBC (I know) that PV is becoming increasingly frustrated about Palace lack of activity in the transfer window.
Another one bites the dust soon I reckon.

If he walks we won’t get another manager without giving them a transfer kitty - so just give it to Pat, surely?

 

Painter Flag Croydon 25 Jan 23 7.48am

Originally posted by steeleye20

FORMER CRYSTAL PALACE STRIKER ALEXANDER SORLOTH CAN’T STOP SCORING IN SPAIN.

Sorloth famously started just four Premier League games during the most forgettable of spells at Selhurst Park. Though a tally of 12 goals in just 16 starts at Sociedad is proof of how effective this powerhouse centre-forward can be.

-.-'

Not in the Premier or Bundasleiga he cant.

 

Jacey Flag 25 Jan 23 8.17am

Dreadful complacency at the top leading to probably no significant signings this window, may well result in PV.walking onwards and upwards to a club which will bend over backwards to help him in the transfer market,Everton.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Jan 23 8.28am

Originally posted by steeleye20

FORMER CRYSTAL PALACE STRIKER ALEXANDER SORLOTH CAN’T STOP SCORING IN SPAIN.

Sorloth famously started just four Premier League games during the most forgettable of spells at Selhurst Park. Though a tally of 12 goals in just 16 starts at Sociedad is proof of how effective this powerhouse centre-forward can be.

-.-'

It has taken him 4 years to finally start scoring at a decent level last, season at Real he only scored 4 goals in 33 games.

Good luck to the lad but like Bamford we couldn't wait that long. Again like Bamford he failed at multiple clubs after us so I don't think we can be blamed.

 


One more point

sydtheeagle Flag England 25 Jan 23 8.29am

Originally posted by Painter

Not in the Premier or Bundasleiga he cant.

For what it's worth, Sorloth scored in the Bundesliga at roughly the same pace Edouard and Mateta score for us. So there's a reasonable argument to be made that sticking with him would have left us no worse off on the pitch, but would have saved us wasting around £40 million on those two, neither of which have solved the problem they were meant to.

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 25 Jan 23 8.32am

I thought this was supposed to be a thread about transfer updates, not a trip down Memory Lane over a striker that was absolutely awful for us.

 

PatrickA Flag London 25 Jan 23 9.01am

I suppose the absence of transfer news is driving some posters down nostalgia lane as otherwise there’s not much to discuss.
I have to say I’m surprised we haven’t been more active as we had the World Cup break to prepare for deals in January.
We can’t keep waiting for Gallagher and AWB forever and surely have identified Plan B alternatives.
It’s not my money, so I wouldn’t want to be too critical , but I sometimes wonder if the brinkmanship we appear to employ on transfers backfires and we miss opportunities as a result.
There must be a serious doubt that McArthur will return or that Ferguson will make a meaningful contribution. Furthermore, we have two ageing right backs, two misfiring strikers and a whole host of players out of contract in the summer including Zaha.
To my mind we really need to be addressing at least a couple of these issues in this window.


Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I thought this was supposed to be a thread about transfer updates, not a trip down Memory Lane over a striker that was absolutely awful for us.

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 25 Jan 23 9.14am

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Or alternatively, we’ve spent close to f*** all compared to some of the wealthiest clubs on the planet and some others with sugar daddy owners and we’ve still got by relatively comfortably and we now have a top notch academy bang in the middle of one of the biggest talent pools in Europe.

I get the academy thing, it needed to be done to cultivate the talent we've been losing to other clubs all these years however from all the reports thats circa £20-£25m invested. Another way of looking at it is that value is one decent/average premier league player. Doesnt justify why we cannot compete with other clubs financially. Obviously its now the stadium. I can see PVs frustration getting the better of him further down the line.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards berlinpalace Flag berlin 25 Jan 23 9.43am

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

I get the academy thing, it needed to be done to cultivate the talent we've been losing to other clubs all these years however from all the reports thats circa £20-£25m invested. Another way of looking at it is that value is one decent/average premier league player. Doesnt justify why we cannot compete with other clubs financially. Obviously its now the stadium. I can see PVs frustration getting the better of him further down the line.


It is likely that it will just tick over most seasons bringing 1-2 first team/squad players through and a couple more who will end up playing at a lower level. There's also the Textor multi-club angle where players will move around a bit more.
I know PV wasn't exactly the first choice but he was brought in for his experience of youth set ups at big clubs and we have added coaches who are tasked with transitioning players from youth to first team. I can understand PV's frustration at he moment but I also think he knew all this when he took the job on and he has been hands in in getting the coaches we need into the right roles. Obviously the problem is we are not going to appreciate the benefits of this set up for another season or two. I will be slightly amazed if PV either walks or is pushed out this season.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Jan 23 10.13am

Originally posted by berlinpalace


It is likely that it will just tick over most seasons bringing 1-2 first team/squad players through and a couple more who will end up playing at a lower level. There's also the Textor multi-club angle where players will move around a bit more.
I know PV wasn't exactly the first choice but he was brought in for his experience of youth set ups at big clubs and we have added coaches who are tasked with transitioning players from youth to first team. I can understand PV's frustration at he moment but I also think he knew all this when he took the job on and he has been hands in in getting the coaches we need into the right roles. Obviously the problem is we are not going to appreciate the benefits of this set up for another season or two. I will be slightly amazed if PV either walks or is pushed out this season.


Agreed. The club are looking at the longer term not the quick fix. The clubs below us are currently panic-buying to try and stave off relegation. Their inflated purchases may work. for one or two of them - some others will find themselves in financial difficulties when they get relegated.

Parish seems to believe that we are not in danger of relegation this season (and the betting companies agree with him). There IS money available to buy players (per an article in The Athletic) but only if the right profiled player becomes available and can be got.

The Academy already seems to be producing better players given the number who have been sent out on loan and the fact that the U21 team is still challenging for the PL2 Premier title against the likes of Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea and having just beaten Liverpool on Merseyside.

PV came in and agreed to work on a project which undoubtedly wasn't going to be completed in the first 18 months.

Like other fans, I really want to see us bring in a strong CM this window and this may yet happen. However, I don't want to see us throw money away on a panic buy that we alter regret.

 

Jacey Flag 25 Jan 23 10.32am

Doubtless a potentially very good signing if Parish is willing to get a deal over the line.
However,not exactly sure we will sign anyone this window.

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Edited by Jacey (25 Jan 2023 10.32am)

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 25 Jan 23 12.58pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Or alternatively, we’ve spent close to f*** all compared to some of the wealthiest clubs on the planet and some others with sugar daddy owners and we’ve still got by relatively comfortably and we now have a top notch academy bang in the middle of one of the biggest talent pools in Europe.

I'm not saying we need to go for expensive signings but the academy (that was paid for by the sale of AWB) has yet to still produce the players capable of going straight into the first team and holding their own in the PL to stop us playing right backs at left back and leaving two number 9's on the bench cos they're s***.

The academy may deliver a couple of players at some point but not in time to cover the eight players out of contract in the summer.

We should be protecting the PL revenue stream and investing in good enough players from the championship or other leagues and improving them and selling them on, as Brentford do. It seems our scouting network is incapable of doing it though.

As for the £120-150m that needs to be borrowed off textor for the
new stand - do we really need it? or should we do something different (rebuild a a smaller main stand than can be extended later) and invest in the squad now...

This coupled with governance by committee, B+H wanting out and to invest in Chelsea or Man U the club seems to be in a fooking mess to me.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 23 1.11pm

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I'm not saying we need to go for expensive signings but the academy (that was paid for by the sale of AWB) has yet to still produce the players capable of going straight into the first team and holding their own in the PL to stop us playing right backs at left back and leaving two number 9's on the bench cos they're s***.

The academy may deliver a couple of players at some point but not in time to cover the eight players out of contract in the summer.

We should be protecting the PL revenue stream and investing in good enough players from the championship or other leagues and improving them and selling them on, as Brentford do. It seems our scouting network is incapable of doing it though.

As for the £120-150m that needs to be borrowed off textor for the
new stand - do we really need it? or should we do something different (rebuild a a smaller main stand than can be extended later) and invest in the squad now...

This coupled with governance by committee, B+H wanting out and to invest in Chelsea or Man U the club seems to be in a fooking mess to me.

There are certainly good players in the lower leagues :

Eiran Cashin (Derby), Harry Darling (Swansea), Ronnie Edwards (Peterborough), Jacob Greaves (Hull), Harrison Holgate (Fleetwood), Anis Mehmeti (Wycombe), Hector Kyprianou (Peterborough) and others.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jan 23 1.31pm

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I'm not saying we need to go for expensive signings but the academy (that was paid for by the sale of AWB) has yet to still produce the players capable of going straight into the first team and holding their own in the PL to stop us playing right backs at left back and leaving two number 9's on the bench cos they're s***.

The academy may deliver a couple of players at some point but not in time to cover the eight players out of contract in the summer.

We should be protecting the PL revenue stream and investing in good enough players from the championship or other leagues and improving them and selling them on, as Brentford do. It seems our scouting network is incapable of doing it though.

As for the £120-150m that needs to be borrowed off textor for the
new stand - do we really need it? or should we do something different (rebuild a a smaller main stand than can be extended later) and invest in the squad now...

This coupled with governance by committee, B+H wanting out and to invest in Chelsea or Man U the club seems to be in a fooking mess to me.

The Academy will not produce a raft of EPL ready players overnight. I think we may have one, David Ozoh, that might force himself into first team reckoning next season. Others that have done well out on loan will be reassessed during the summer.

We don't need 8 players from the Academy to replace the out of contract group. Why would we do that ??

Brentford's scouting network is widely admired but like everything in this world, some scouting networks are better than others ! Chelsea seem to be hijacking Brighton's bit by bit.

I've not read anything to suggest that Textor is financing the stadium redevelopment - I must have missed that.

As to the club being in a mess, I don't agree. But it is unsettling to see reports of fallings out at Board level and the continuing saga of H and B looking elsewhere.

 


Old, Ungifted and White

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Jan 23 1.52pm

By my reckoning (and I may well be wrong) but there are 11 players who will be out of contract in the summer as follows:

Butland
Matthews

Ward
Ferguson
Tomkins
Clyne

McArthur
Milivojevic
Schlupp
Zaha
Ayew

Of those I would not be surprised if the following are offered an extended contract (In addition to Zaha)

Clyne
Schlupp
Ayew

It may be that one or more of these have already agreed extended contracts and I've missed it.

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 25 Jan 23 2.17pm

Originally posted by Willo

There are certainly good players in the lower leagues :

Eiran Cashin (Derby), Harry Darling (Swansea), Ronnie Edwards (Peterborough), Jacob Greaves (Hull), Harrison Holgate (Fleetwood), Anis Mehmeti (Wycombe), Hector Kyprianou (Peterborough) and others.

Exactly Willo - these players should see us a stepping stone to greater things if they perform well for us over a couple of seasons...so they should be chopping at the bit to come to us, obviously there's competition but if Brentford can get them then surely we could after 10yrs in the PL.

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 25 Jan 23 2.27pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

The Academy will not produce a raft of EPL ready players overnight. I think we may have one, David Ozoh, that might force himself into first team reckoning next season. Others that have done well out on loan will be reassessed during the summer.

We don't need 8 players from the Academy to replace the out of contract group. Why would we do that ??

Brentford's scouting network is widely admired but like everything in this world, some scouting networks are better than others ! Chelsea seem to be hijacking Brighton's bit by bit.

I've not read anything to suggest that Textor is financing the stadium redevelopment - I must have missed that.

As to the club being in a mess, I don't agree. But it is unsettling to see reports of fallings out at Board level and the continuing saga of H and B looking elsewhere.

That was my point, we can't replace them from the Academy, but we don't have any money to buy so we're looking for loans. Some OOC's will get renewals in the summer but the others if they're not up to scratch now then they'll be even further off the pace next season...the club needs to continually invest in fit for purpose talent but it isn't. For example we haven't really replaced what we lost in midfield over the summer...surely this must be ringing alarms bells somewhere in the hallowed corridors of Selhurst.

 

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