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Midlands Eagle 12 Dec 19 6.24pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Do you know, I can imagine you as an easy going boss, never one to pick an argument. This is the person who responded to one of your posts yesterday with the words "Read the f***ing post you dipstick"

Midlands Eagle

12 Dec 19 6.24pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do you know, I can imagine you as an easy going boss, never one to pick an argument.

This is the person who responded to one of your posts yesterday with the words "Read the f***ing post you dipstick"

Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 19 7.01pm
Originally posted by DanH I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the shtshows of governments so far in my working life Look at Scandinavia though and the high tax/social security systems they have and the quality of life*. If you have a government that knows what it's doing and looking out for people rather than profit then things can be better. There are about 50 people living in Scandinavia. Quality of life is wrecked by too many people and in some cases, the wrong kind of people. Sweden is finding that out right now.

Hrolf The Ganger

12 Dec 19 7.01pm

Originally posted by DanH

I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the sh*tshows of governments so far in my working life

Look at Scandinavia though and the high tax/social security systems they have and the quality of life. If you have a government that knows what it's doing and looking out for people rather than profit then things can be better.

There are about 50 people living in Scandinavia. Quality of life is wrecked by too many people and in some cases, the wrong kind of people.

Sweden is finding that out right now.

Stirlingsays 12 Dec 19 7.09pm
Originally posted by DanH I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the sh*tshows of governments so far in my working life Look at Scandinavia though and the high tax/social security systems they have and the quality of life. If you have a government that knows what it's doing and looking out for people rather than profit then things can be better. Scandinavia.....High in natural resources and low in population. There are lots that can be said about that region, both positive and negative. I would agree with you though on the principle that wealthy people will pay higher taxes for a high quality society.....though how high is reasonable is a question. As is what quality returns do they get in return. Scandinavia though is currently damaging its brand. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2019 7.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

12 Dec 19 7.09pm

Originally posted by DanH

I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the sh*tshows of governments so far in my working life

Look at Scandinavia though and the high tax/social security systems they have and the quality of life. If you have a government that knows what it's doing and looking out for people rather than profit then things can be better.

Scandinavia.....High in natural resources and low in population. There are lots that can be said about that region, both positive and negative.

I would agree with you though on the principle that wealthy people will pay higher taxes for a high quality society.....though how high is reasonable is a question. As is what quality returns do they get in return.

Scandinavia though is currently damaging its brand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2019 7.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 12 Dec 19 7.13pm
Originally posted by DanH I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the sh*tshows of governments so far in my working life Look at Scandinavia though and the high tax/social security systems they have and the quality of life. If you have a government that knows what it's doing and looking out for people rather than profit then things can be better. Scandinavian governments tend to have universal benefits and don't means test. When I was briefly unemployed I had savings so I was told use this to pay my mortgage and all my other bills. I spent most of my working life paying 40% tax but when I need it I'm told to go away. If Labour is serious about having a generous welfare / benefits system they should take that on board and yes it would mean millionaires are entitled. If everyone can claim then maybe we won't complain. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 12 Dec 19 7.13pm

Originally posted by DanH

I know it's not. I am aware of what I already pay to the sh*tshows of governments so far in my working life

Scandinavian governments tend to have universal benefits and don't means test. When I was briefly unemployed I had savings so I was told use this to pay my mortgage and all my other bills. I spent most of my working life paying 40% tax but when I need it I'm told to go away.

If Labour is serious about having a generous welfare / benefits system they should take that on board and yes it would mean millionaires are entitled.

If everyone can claim then maybe we won't complain.

One more point

chris123 hove actually 12 Dec 19 7.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Scandinavia.....High in natural resources and low in population. There are lots that can be said about that region, both positive and negative. I would agree with you though on the principle that wealthy people will pay higher taxes for a high quality society.....though how high is reasonable is a question. As is what is quality returns do they get. Scandinavia though is currently damaging its brand. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2019 7.14pm) I think Norway nabbed most of them!

chris123

hove actually 12 Dec 19 7.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Scandinavia.....High in natural resources and low in population. There are lots that can be said about that region, both positive and negative.

I would agree with you though on the principle that wealthy people will pay higher taxes for a high quality society.....though how high is reasonable is a question. As is what is quality returns do they get.

Scandinavia though is currently damaging its brand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2019 7.14pm)

I think Norway nabbed most of them!

elgrande bedford 12 Dec 19 7.22pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle This is the person who responded to one of your posts yesterday with the words "Read the f***ing post you dipstick" This is true Midland,but in my defence I had a really bad day....and it was the wrong time of the month. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 12 Dec 19 7.22pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This is the person who responded to one of your posts yesterday with the words "Read the f***ing post you dipstick"

This is true Midland,but in my defence I had a really bad day....and it was the wrong time of the month.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

DanH SW2 12 Dec 19 8.29pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Scandinavian governments tend to have universal benefits and don't means test. When I was briefly unemployed I had savings so I was told use this to pay my mortgage and all my other bills. I spent most of my working life paying 40% tax but when I need it I'm told to go away. If Labour is serious about having a generous welfare / benefits system they should take that on board and yes it would mean millionaires are entitled. If everyone can claim then maybe we won't complain. Yep I’m fine with this

DanH

SW2 12 Dec 19 8.29pm

Originally posted by Badger11

If Labour is serious about having a generous welfare / benefits system they should take that on board and yes it would mean millionaires are entitled.

If everyone can claim then maybe we won't complain.

Yep I’m fine with this

Badger11 Beckenham 12 Dec 19 8.32pm
Anybody notice how rubbish the news has been today? That's because they are not allowed to speculate until after 10pm and not just about the election anything that might be considered bias is out. This just goes to show how much of our "news" is actually nothing more than speculation to fill up the airwaves. We'd be better if they showed a tropical fish tank or landscapes. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 12 Dec 19 8.32pm

Anybody notice how rubbish the news has been today?

That's because they are not allowed to speculate until after 10pm and not just about the election anything that might be considered bias is out.

This just goes to show how much of our "news" is actually nothing more than speculation to fill up the airwaves.

We'd be better if they showed a tropical fish tank or landscapes.

One more point

Stirlingsays 12 Dec 19 9.02pm
This is from 40 odd minutes ago....just putting it here as a tease without further comment. Attachment: tease.JPG (37.12Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

12 Dec 19 9.02pm

This is from 40 odd minutes ago....just putting it here as a tease without further comment.

Attachment: tease.JPG (37.12Kb)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Dec 19 9.03pm
Originally posted by W12 Sorry but that's clearly bollox Spending on the NHS continues to rise in real terms year on year but the population grows by about 500,000 each year so spending will never keep up with it. Comparing the population growth rate in the UK to 3rd world countries or countries that have a much lower population density is ridiculous. How much do you think it costs to pay for healthcare for half a million extra people every year? This is all in the context of a shrinking native population so all of this growth relates directly to immigration. It's clear (for those that use their eyes) that most of these people cannot pay their share of taxes so the cost is met with borrowing and reducing the service to people that have actually paid into the system. Obvioulsy this is also true of all other "free" services. We also justify more of this because we need mopre doctors and nurses. Yet we keep idiots in labour telling us we are one of the wealthiest countries in the world and still give away billions in foreign aid to countries that either don't need it or have corrupt regimes. Look at the state of it: [Link] I'm no longer proud to be British. We are a joke and a disgrace. Go And Live Somewhere Else Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 12 Dec 19 9.03pm

Originally posted by W12

Sorry but that's clearly bollox

Spending on the NHS continues to rise in real terms year on year but the population grows by about 500,000 each year so spending will never keep up with it. Comparing the population growth rate in the UK to 3rd world countries or countries that have a much lower population density is ridiculous. How much do you think it costs to pay for healthcare for half a million extra people every year? This is all in the context of a shrinking native population so *all* of this growth relates directly to immigration. It's clear (for those that use their eyes) that most of these people cannot pay their share of taxes so the cost is met with borrowing and reducing the service to people that have actually paid into the system. Obvioulsy this is also true of all other "free" services. We also justify more of this because we need mopre doctors and nurses.

Yet we keep idiots in labour telling us we are one of the wealthiest countries in the world and still give away billions in foreign aid to countries that either don't need it or have corrupt regimes.

Look at the state of it:

[Link]

I'm no longer proud to be British. We are a joke and a disgrace.

And

Live

Somewhere

Else

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 9.07pm
Any whispers from Willo with regard to turnout? He often has his finger on the pulse Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.10pm)

Invalid user 2019

12 Dec 19 9.07pm

Any whispers from Willo with regard to turnout? He often has his finger on the pulse

Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.10pm)

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Dec 19 9.13pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger There are about 50 people living in Scandinavia. Quality of life is wrecked by too many people and in some cases, the wrong kind of people. Sweden is finding that out right now. Useful post. Cheers Scandinavian countries have a far better approach - and as a result quality of life than we do. Having only lived and worked in Copenhagen and Stockholm it’s hard to speak for the entire region like you do (In your infinite wisdom, experienced from behind a screen in the countryside) but I was there long enough to get a good grasp of the social, economic and day-to-day pulse and to effectively dismiss the region as incomparable is complete dross. Be better Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 12 Dec 19 9.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There are about 50 people living in Scandinavia. Quality of life is wrecked by too many people and in some cases, the wrong kind of people.

Sweden is finding that out right now.

Useful post. Cheers

Scandinavian countries have a far better approach - and as a result quality of life than we do. Having only lived and worked in Copenhagen and Stockholm it’s hard to speak for the entire region like you do (In your infinite wisdom, experienced from behind a screen in the countryside) but I was there long enough to get a good grasp of the social, economic and day-to-day pulse and to effectively dismiss the region as incomparable is complete dross. Be better

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 19 9.17pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Go And Live Somewhere Else So it's OK to say that to a White person. I'll call Donald Trump and let him know.

Hrolf The Ganger

12 Dec 19 9.17pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

And

Live

Somewhere

Else

So it's OK to say that to a White person.

I'll call Donald Trump and let him know.

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 12 Dec 19 9.36pm
Originally posted by dollardays Any whispers from Willo with regard to turnout? He often has his finger on the pulse Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.10pm) I just voted. No 1000! No prize 1400 voters in my ward. 250 are postal votes. Huge turnout. Lib Dem/Tory swing seat in S. Somerset. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 12 Dec 19 9.36pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Any whispers from Willo with regard to turnout? He often has his finger on the pulse

Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.10pm)

I just voted. No 1000! No prize

1400 voters in my ward. 250 are postal votes. Huge turnout.

Lib Dem/Tory swing seat in S. Somerset.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 9.43pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So it's OK to say that to a White person. I'll call Donald Trump and let him know. He said with regard to the 'I'm no longer proud to be British. We are a joke and a disgrace' rant I believe. It was the kind of comment that warranted a dismissive response. There's something to be said for cheering up!

Invalid user 2019

12 Dec 19 9.43pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So it's OK to say that to a White person.

I'll call Donald Trump and let him know.

He said with regard to the 'I'm no longer proud to be British. We are a joke and a disgrace' rant I believe.

It was the kind of comment that warranted a dismissive response. There's something to be said for cheering up!

Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 9.44pm
[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3493762] I just voted. No 1000! No prize 1400 voters in my ward. 250 are postal votes. Huge turnout. Lib Dem/Tory swing seat in S. Somerset. Cheers. Yes I'm hearing that there are very large turnouts across the board. CEO of Ipsos Mori has hinted that the exit polls will be VERY interesting. Make of that what you will. I would take that it mean either a larger Tory majority than expected or markedly more tactical voting between Labour and Lib Dems on the day. Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.46pm)

Invalid user 2019

12 Dec 19 9.44pm

[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3493762]

I just voted. No 1000! No prize

1400 voters in my ward. 250 are postal votes. Huge turnout.

Lib Dem/Tory swing seat in S. Somerset.

Cheers. Yes I'm hearing that there are very large turnouts across the board.

CEO of Ipsos Mori has hinted that the exit polls will be VERY interesting. Make of that what you will.

I would take that it mean either a larger Tory majority than expected or markedly more tactical voting between Labour and Lib Dems on the day.

Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 9.46pm)

Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 12 Dec 19 9.54pm
All will be revealed shortly

Bexley Eagle

Bexley Kent 12 Dec 19 9.54pm

All will be revealed shortly

Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 9.56pm
Odds just prior to exit poll Tory Maj 1/3 No Maj 14/5 Logically I'd expect these to change quite markedly in five minutes once the exit poll data is in

Invalid user 2019

12 Dec 19 9.56pm

Odds just prior to exit poll

Tory Maj 1/3

No Maj 14/5

Logically I'd expect these to change quite markedly in five minutes once the exit poll data is in

chris123 hove actually 12 Dec 19 10.01pm
Bingo!

chris123

hove actually 12 Dec 19 10.01pm

Bingo!

Invalid user 2019 12 Dec 19 10.03pm
Originally posted by dollardays Odds just prior to exit poll Tory Maj 1/3 No Maj 14/5 Logically I'd expect these to change quite markedly in five minutes once the exit poll data is in Big win Lib Dems and Labour may have wished they'd have formed a pact now. Anyway byebye Jezza Current odds now Toy Maj 1-30 No Maj 28-1 Rather impressive that the exit poll data didn't leak really Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 10.03pm)

Invalid user 2019

12 Dec 19 10.03pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Odds just prior to exit poll

Tory Maj 1/3

No Maj 14/5

Logically I'd expect these to change quite markedly in five minutes once the exit poll data is in

Big win

Lib Dems and Labour may have wished they'd have formed a pact now. Anyway byebye Jezza

Current odds now

Toy Maj 1-30

No Maj 28-1

Rather impressive that the exit poll data didn't leak really

Edited by dollardays (12 Dec 2019 10.03pm)

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