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 Plaistow Eagle  27 Dec 20 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by Mathers
It’s simple... You can’t sack the entire first team and start again (As much as we’d like to after the last few games). You can sack your manager and almost instantly get a reaction from the same players. The stats show this isn’t a knee jerk reaction but a year of sustained poor results with a squad that should comfortably be sitting mid table but instead always has us looking over our shoulder. Yep..!!
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| acepal Mars 27 Dec 20 8.19pm |
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When's the penny gonna drop. With Roy you an't gonna win nothing but you wont go down. To Palace that means success.
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| AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 27 Dec 20 8.26pm |
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Genuine question, would that suffice?
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| kev64 Cambs 27 Dec 20 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Genuine question, would that suffice? If your the chairman of a bottom half PL club the only aim is to survive. We have zero ambition other than maybe 10th place. How can you motivate players if this is all the club aims for season in season out.
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| AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 27 Dec 20 8.38pm |
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But I think that's what many want. I remember last season, or it may have been the season before that, many on here didn't want an FA Cup run as it may hinder our chances of staying in the premier league. If that really is the case, why are we bothering?
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Dec 20 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by kev64
If your the chairman of a bottom half PL club the only aim is to survive. We have zero ambition other than maybe 10th place. How can you motivate players if this is all the club aims for season in season out. Money. One of the biggest problems we have at moment is how many of them are of advanced years, have contracts running out at the end of the season and may have their minds elsewhere.
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| pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 27 Dec 20 9.15pm |
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Some of these posts from people who think we won’t go down because Roy is our manager and that he won’t be replaced no matter what astound me. You people must be living in some sort of fantasy land. We lost 3-0 to a team with ten men following a 7-0 defeat. Another loss is almost certain against Leicester and then we have a must win against Sheffield United. What do you think will happen if we lose that game?
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Dec 20 9.24pm |
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I think there's every chance we could be drawn into the relegation dogfight with Roy and if things don't pick up in the next two to three games then we would need to look at a change. However, that would be in hope of a reaction or bounce rather than any great confidence that another manager would do a lot better with the group of players we have.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 9.42pm |
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Originally posted by pompeyeagle
Some of these posts from people who think we won’t go down because Roy is our manager and that he won’t be replaced no matter what astound me. You people must be living in some sort of fantasy land. We lost 3-0 to a team with ten men following a 7-0 defeat. Another loss is almost certain against Leicester and then we have a must win against Sheffield United. What do you think will happen if we lose that game? We still won't be in the relegation zone if we lose both matches and there would be over 20 games in the season left to play so I don't believe a change will be made in such circumstances. Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2020 9.44pm)
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| southnorwoodhill 27 Dec 20 9.49pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
We still won't be in the relegation zone if we lose both matches and there would be over 20 games in the season left to play so I don't believe a change will be made in such circumstances. Edited by Willo (27 Dec 2020 9.44pm) 20 games for the new manager to make his mark
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| babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 27 Dec 20 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Very good post. I don’t think any of us know what on earth is going on between the American shareholders and the rest, but it is not great for sure. Do they have any representation at any of our games? Totally agree with all your comments. Poor old Roy. Can’t be easy at 74 trying to motivate a whole load of high octane overpaid young bucks. On bad days the gap just seems more pronounced. It’s almost like Roy can’t find solutions to growing problems. They must be there. Don’t kid yourselves we haven’t got the quality. Maybe thats the problem. They are all "young bucks" compared to him. The age and fitness of our squad was painfully obvious v villa. Macca looked knackered, Luca was sweating like a rapist and PVA thinks hes an attacker and keeps drifting. Im all for getting the ball forward via Eze and attacking in numbers but when we lose the ball there are too many spaces and we are open to the counter.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 27 Dec 20 10.25pm |
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It's very simple. Look at it logically. A chap in his 70's, is not going to be the same guy in his prime. To assume the players looks at Roy in his 70's compared to say Roy in his 50's the same, is crazy. There are exceptions, of course. Even Sir Alex knew when to step aside at 71. We rely too much on Zaha - should have cashed in last summer, invested in two replacement players. We need a manager with a 3 year plan and a budget that works accordingly. I said before, from Roy, to parish to PVA the whole attitude and mindset is wrong. Parish is looking at it as a business. Roy is now a yes man. Players are just accepting a wage each week. The manager should be demanding more from the chairman, the chairman should excited by the manager and the players should be performing for the fans each week. This isn't happening. Roy needs to go now. A new manager needs to come in and see out the season, assessing who he has available, who he needs and who he doesn't need. The chairman has to back him on this project and allow the summer coming up to be that change, with at least 4 new signings. That January, amend where needed, the following summer, the last of the big moves and then look forward. Our goal each season should be to achieve premier status in record time. IE when we are mathematically safe and to enjoy a cup run. That's the positive way of saying survive a relegation scrap. We don't want top 5, we just want a team that want top 5.
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