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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 10 May 19 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
UK economy rebounds in first quarter The bad news keeps on coming for the Remain camp - The economy doing well Due only to stockpiling! Hardly sustainable. Brexit Party about to storm the Euro elections Which means absolute nothing to anyone except those who are hardline Leavers. The most it can ever be is an embarrassment and a distraction. Only UK GEs really mean anything. And I include referendums in that analysis. Their pointless petition didn’t change a thing Change no, but as a demonstration of the depth of feeling on that side of the argument it meant a great deal more than the pointless upcoming EU elections, which are a waste of time and money. Unless of course we stay in! Are you now in favour of that? Happy days You must be easily pleased! I think we need to concentrate on much more serious issues than the sideshows.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 10 May 19 10.55pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You must be easily pleased! I think we need to concentrate on much more serious issues than the sideshows. As I said "Happy days"
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| DANGERCLOSE London 10 May 19 11.22pm |
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Nigel Farage Angry Brexit Party Speech at Peterborough - 'No More Mr Nice Guy!'
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 8.32am |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
Nigel Farage Angry Brexit Party Speech at Peterborough - 'No More Mr Nice Guy!' The words "Farage" and "nice guy" don't belong in the same sentence. At least the protest party he has started is trying to get a representative elected to where our democracy really happens. Parliament. Their points can be debated and exposed there and seen for what they are. All the bluster about democracy being abandoned etc, etc, because of a referendum result not being followed through in a way which satisfies a particular viewpoint is just froth. It's a demonstration of how little people who support Farage understand about British democracy. Not Farage himself. He understands it well enough but is prepared to use people's ignorance for his own purposes. I give thanks that we don't elect Presidents in the UK or we might end up with Farage.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 11 May 19 8.34am |
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 May 19 8.36am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The words "Farage" and "nice guy" don't belong in the same sentence. At least the protest party he has started is trying to get a representative elected to where our democracy really happens. Parliament. Their points can be debated and exposed there and seen for what they are. All the bluster about democracy being abandoned etc, etc, because of a referendum result not being followed through in a way which satisfies a particular viewpoint is just froth. It's a demonstration of how little people who support Farage understand about British democracy. Not Farage himself. He understands it well enough but is prepared to use people's ignorance for his own purposes. I give thanks that we don't elect Presidents in the UK or we might end up with Farage. Thanks...sums up the attitude of remainers to those who chose the other option
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| DANGERCLOSE London 11 May 19 8.43am |
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No-deal BACK ON TABLE
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| ChrisGC Wantage 11 May 19 8.47am |
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As "no deal" actually means Brexit and we have a government determined to make us remain it seems unlikely that they're going to do the sensible thing.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 11 May 19 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The words "Farage" and "nice guy" don't belong in the same sentence. At least the protest party he has started is trying to get a representative elected to where our democracy really happens. Parliament. Their points can be debated and exposed there and seen for what they are. All the bluster about democracy being abandoned etc, etc, because of a referendum result not being followed through in a way which satisfies a particular viewpoint is just froth. It's a demonstration of how little people who support Farage understand about British democracy. Not Farage himself. He understands it well enough but is prepared to use people's ignorance for his own purposes. I give thanks that we don't elect Presidents in the UK or we might end up with Farage. For those who struggle with the concept of irony, this post is it. Talking about democracy when you're determined to overturn the will of the majority ffs. Wake up. Edited by ChrisGC (11 May 2019 8.49am)
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| Midlands Eagle 11 May 19 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
All the bluster about democracy being abandoned etc, etc, because of a referendum result not being followed through in a way which satisfies a particular viewpoint is just froth. Last time I checked the referendum result hadn't been followed through at all
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 9.12am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
For those who struggle with the concept of irony, this post is it. Talking about democracy when you're determined to overturn the will of the majority ffs. Wake up. Edited by ChrisGC (11 May 2019 8.49am) It's talking about democracy and linking it, in the UK, to referendums that is the irony. No referendum in the UK has any part in our democracy which is vested solely in Parliament. The will of the majority for us ONLY matters when we vote in a GE. That has zilch to do with whether you voted Leave or Remain. It is simply a fact.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 9.14am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Thanks...sums up the attitude of remainers to those who chose the other option Thanks too. You just demonstrated my point that so many Brexiteers don't understand how British democracy actually works. It's not done via referendums. Or indeed "People's votes". Which are the same thing. It's done in Parliament.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 9.19am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Last time I checked the referendum result hadn't been followed through at all It has, and is continuing to be, but by Parliament. It's just not being done in a way that you like. If referendums had any legal status in the UK then you would have every right to complain. They don't. The issue is not the referendum. It's the commitments made to respect it given by the parties. Commitments which can and must be withdrawn if circumstances demand that they should be.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 May 19 9.26am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You must be easily pleased! I think we need to concentrate on much more serious issues than the sideshows. Which means absolute nothing to anyone except those who are hardline Leavers. The most it can ever be is an embarrassment and a distraction. Only UK GEs really mean anything. And I include referendums in that analysis. Change no, but as a demonstration of the depth of feeling on that side of the argument it meant a great deal more than the pointless upcoming EU elections, which are a waste of time and money. Unless of course we stay in! Are you now in favour of that? You think a march and a petition means more than a referendum and the upcoming objection vote to the EU coming up. Hilarious. Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 May 2019 9.27am)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 May 19 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Thanks too. You just demonstrated my point that so many Brexiteers don't understand how British democracy actually works. It's not done via referendums. Or indeed "People's votes". Which are the same thing. It's done in Parliament. After it was promised by parliament, before the referendum, that the vote would count. The whole country understood that, probably including you, yet you say this every single day.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 11 May 19 9.51am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
After it was promised by parliament, before the referendum, that the vote would count. The whole country understood that, probably including you, yet you say this every single day. You must feel so 'betrayed'. Still, another meaningless vote for you coming up.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 May 19 9.59am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
You must feel so 'betrayed'. Still, another meaningless vote for you coming up.
Your post is meaningless. Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 May 2019 9.59am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 10.18am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You think a march and a petition means more than a referendum and the upcoming objection vote to the EU coming up. Hilarious. Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 May 2019 9.27am) Both mean very little in the overall scheme but a pointless election that no-body at all wants and will be only used by those seeking to make a statement is particularly stupid. At least the march and the petition was directed at our Parliament where the decisions will be made and not at an institution that the primary activists are seeking to withdraw from. Now that's what is hilarious.
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| Midlands Eagle 11 May 19 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Both mean very little in the overall scheme but a pointless election that no-body at all wants and will be only used by those seeking to make a statement is particularly stupid. At least the march and the petition was directed at our Parliament where the decisions will be made and not at an institution that the primary activists are seeking to withdraw from. Now that's what is hilarious. I think that you misunderstand the idea of voting for the Brexit Party in the forthcoming EU elections as many people will be voting for them to make a statement to our own Government that we need to get out of the EU and if that means a no deal Brexit then so be it
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 May 19 10.24am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
After it was promised by parliament, before the referendum, that the vote would count. The whole country understood that, probably including you, yet you say this every single day. Sure. Parliament promised to respect the vote. What Parliament promised, Parliament can amend, or even withdraw if, in their judgement it is our best interests to do so. That is still respecting the vote! That's the way our democracy works. If you don't like it then vote in a Parliament to make the results of referendums binding. Good luck with that.
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