Game, set and match!

Pity it was all so one sided though that is inevitable when one side has all the reasoned arguments and the other only wishes and hopes.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Only a fool admires a murderer.

If you talk out against trump, he goes after you on Twitter.

If you talk out against Putin he sends some guys with nerve agents to murder you.

Don’t be a fool.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

We've been screwed by both the Left and the Right for decades.
Sadly the majority just can't see it.

Buy Litecoin.

You can't sow division if division doesn't already exist. Farage is articulating what many people feel and believe. What are you suggesting? That these objections be ignored or distorted to fit a false narrative? People deserve representation.

Homogeneous populations don't have 'racism and discord'. So you are ignoring the root cause. Farage isn't responsible for the created situation. The left and neo liberals who supported high immigration in the first place are those who created the conditions for division.

The left make expectations of human nature that aren't realistic and and then blame people for their reactions....when most of those pushing this politics live in homogeneous areas themselves.

Most of the world trade under WTO rules, including us, so that's nonsense.

As for the deal we end up making you are just speculating...... Whatever the affect, it is a democratic right for the majority to choose their future.

Did you oppose the Scottish referendum under the same principle?

The clues in the name of the party. Unless he runs for the general election a manifesto isn't required and listening to him recently one is coming anyway.

That's weak and out of context.

You pushed Russian collusion, which turned out to be a democratic wet dream and excuse for losing. From what I can tell you just repeat what the anti Trump media tell you.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

At last, you hit the nail on the head! He doesn't need a manifesto or anything else simply because his party is one-dimensional......... but it's the one dimension that no other party is offering: the GET US OUT OF EUROPE option that the majority voted for in the referendum. No if's,no But's just get us out without the UK being hand-tied, straight-jacketed or totally shackled hand and foot to the EU for the rest of our days.

That is why people will use him (as he is only too well aware)as nothing more than a protest vote, so he and his ilk can go off the Brussels and create chaos and mayhem in the European Parliament until they become glad to see the back of us!

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Agreed squared

Yes the desperation trying to stop him is amusing.

COYP

There was no Russian collusion by Trump. Mueller found nothing direct he could tie to the president and made no recommendations for prosecution. These are not denials but facts. I have since read the report and know just how the democrats and people like you spin to gain as much false narrative as you can.

The only thing that Trump can be said to be guilty of is of requesting what could be framed as obstruction....however this wasn't carried out so again there is nothing actionable....I agree with the president making the job of those unethically looking to overthrown him as difficult as possible.

It's you and Maine who have since before the report was published and since who have been pushing conspiracy theories and peddling falsehoods based upon your wish fulfillment.

No collusion and you are a conspiracy theorist.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

He would sh*t himself in a position of actual power.

It is. And also so s***. As has been the entire 'Remain' campaign ever since it got its arse handed to it on June 23rd.

And part of me struggles with that. Because they are meant to be the bright ones. They are meant to be the ones who went to University, who have the best jobs and who live lives' of comfort and ease. Yet they are thick as f***.

If we frame this as the Establishment v the rest of us, then the Establishment are actually not very clever. All we have had is insults and belittling and generally nothing other than the sort of abuse guaranteed to ensure that people carry on supporting Leave purely because that is how human nature works. You catch more flys with honey than s*** and yet all we have seen from those who supposedly have tasked themselves with persuading us thicko Leave types to change our minds is nothing other than every shade of excrement going.

It may reflect my own circles but the only people I know who have changed their mind about how they would vote if asked again are those who voted Remain first time around. Not because they think Leave has the stronger arguments but purely on the grounds that we had a vote, a majority ticked the Leave box and that needs to be honoured. That is how the game is played. Fair enough to me.

But these Remainer types still banging on about it are either stupid in a way that beggers belief or else the Establishment, for whatever reason, actually want us to leave.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.