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W12 22 May 19 10.37am
Originally posted by ASCPFC Presumably, Brexit Party MEPs will not take the wages from an institution they despise. I assume the leftie solution would be to stand outside the EU comission and throw bricks (or milkshakes) at it?

W12 22 May 19 10.37am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Presumably, Brexit Party MEPs will not take the wages from an institution they despise.

I assume the leftie solution would be to stand outside the EU comission and throw bricks (or milkshakes) at it?

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 10.39am
Originally posted by Park Road No you don't... stop being so daft. Is an opinion to which you are fully entitled. And yes, there is nothing quite like sounding like an old broken record... To which you have no need to listen if you choose not to but I can play if I do. Oh! You said you knew who my hero was? Is that a cold fact as well? Of course not! It's a subjective judgement. Can you tell me who it is? No.Only you can do that. I could tell you who I think it is, in the context of the original comment which I cannot either remember or be bothered to search for. I suspect though it might be Farage. I'll put it down to a feeble attempt on your part to discredit me...as you have tried with others... I discredit no-one. People can only ever discredit themselves. So, I'll repeat... just because you Wisbech think it's so, doesn't mean it is. I have already said that whilst that is obviously true there are many things that are factual and not subject to interpretation or opinion. The public voted - the gvt doesn't legally have to honour it- but the stone cold fact is that we are leaving... Until we actually leave nothing is a stone cold fact with Brexit. Article 50 could be rescinded. As I mentioned before, I'm a remainer who'd vote Brexit at a second non binding referendum, purely on the bases, that people like you are an embarrassment to this nation with your constant whining, insulting arrogant put downs to those who think differently (more clearly) than you. I am not "whining" or even complaining. All I ever try to do is correct the misunderstandings about the process and why democracy has not been overturned but actually has been reaffirmed by Parliament trying to sort out the mess in the way it has done. Those who continue to think that a referendum is a part of the UK democratic system are the ones who are doing all the "whining". Farage and his party being the most culpable. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 10.39am

Originally posted by Park Road

No you don't... stop being so daft.

Is an opinion to which you are fully entitled.

And yes, there is nothing quite like sounding like an old broken record...

To which you have no need to listen if you choose not to but I can play if I do.

Oh! You said you knew who my hero was?

Is that a cold fact as well?

Of course not! It's a subjective judgement.

Can you tell me who it is?

No.Only you can do that. I could tell you who I think it is, in the context of the original comment which I cannot either remember or be bothered to search for. I suspect though it might be Farage.

I'll put it down to a feeble attempt on your part to discredit me...as you have tried with others...

I discredit no-one. People can only ever discredit themselves.

So, I'll repeat... just because you Wisbech think it's so, doesn't mean it is.

I have already said that whilst that is obviously true there are many things that are factual and not subject to interpretation or opinion.

The public voted - the gvt doesn't legally have to honour it- but the stone cold fact is that we are leaving...

Until we actually leave nothing is a stone cold fact with Brexit. Article 50 could be rescinded.

As I mentioned before, I'm a remainer who'd vote Brexit at a second non binding referendum, purely on the bases, that people like you are an embarrassment to this nation with your constant whining, insulting arrogant put downs to those who think differently (more clearly) than you.

I am not "whining" or even complaining. All I ever try to do is correct the misunderstandings about the process and why democracy has not been overturned but actually has been reaffirmed by Parliament trying to sort out the mess in the way it has done. Those who continue to think that a referendum is a part of the UK democratic system are the ones who are doing all the "whining". Farage and his party being the most culpable.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 10.44am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 It's not though is it and you know that. It's a vote that says people haven't changed their mind and did know what they were voting for. Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system. This is an EU vote. That was a referendum. Chalk and cheese! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 10.44am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

It's not though is it and you know that.
It's a vote that says people haven't changed their mind and did know what they were voting for.

Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system.

This is an EU vote. That was a referendum.

Chalk and cheese!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 22 May 19 10.58am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC You can play the system and win, well, do better than ‘Just about Manage’ and still have a firm ideology. 'Playing the system'? Sounds to me like it's just another reworking of words to cover up hypocrisy. Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Part of me would really like to see Nigel (I’m not the political class but I am really) Farage win an election purely on Brexit, with no manifesto, no foreign policy, no substance other than ‘leave means leave’. I can then sit back and watch as all the people that voted for him slowly get screwed over again in exactly the same way they always have. Then perhaps we won’t have this kind of borefest again for quite some time - people will realise that even when they think they’ve got a chance to matter in this world, they actually don’t. And in systems with power structures, the same outcomes always occur. Or become a socialist (how ironic). You think you see the bigger picture obviously. Whereas I think long term the same path is written regardless of Brexit or not. Brexit is about a principle. Long term It's about two fingers as the ship goes down.....Whether or not it hastens the ship going down or draws it out is as important as two beggars arguing over scraps. Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Choose a vocation that pays well, work hard (as I’m continually told on this forum apparently everyone has the same equal opportunity these days, no matter upbringing or circumstance) and play the system. Or be bitter and spend your life ranting on a forum, earning pennies because you’re blaming your own deficiencies in life on someone else, and expecting something like Brexit to increase your financial, cultural or other type of standing now or in the future. Bit of a risky gamble. Cynical, that may have degrees of accuracy for some but not for others. Regardless, even if it were spot on, no one is required to pass some form of SW19 legitimacy test for a whinge. Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I know id rather use money to fuel personal agency and reinvestment in community causes, or even getting into politics as part of a ‘necessary evil’ approach than either • working hard in a profession that is morally rewarding but financially bankrupt (I have ultimate respect for these people but they clearly have zero personal logic and common sense, even more so these days) • dossing through my school years, not testing myself and falling into a mid wage job, probably labour based, which I grow to resent, and instead of blaming myself I blame whatever is available around me - politicians, Brexit, wealthier people etc. Then I end up with arthritis, no pension because I’ve spent it all on beer to numb the pain and end my days living in a council flat with no heating because of my own ineptitude. To me it's just another example of the bourgeoisie defending acting like Alan B'Stard while claiming to be Rik......neo liberal nihilism....personally for what it's worth I think people should practice what they preach. You claim to respect the class who actually keep the country moving while criticising their sense. As a former member of that class I think you deserve criticism here as well. You may well think that nothing outside personal enrichment is sensible but....meh. The reality is that the professional choices that people make is heavily influenced by circumstance and luck. I suspect you are no different despite your apparent self congratulation. Insomuch as someone chooses a more ethical profession than most I have a level of respect for that choice whether our politics would align or not. Ultimately self regard matters and enrichment won't matter that much when you are in the grave. What you and those that mattered thought of you is perhaps more important than the size of the house you left. Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Even Stevey has my respect as although I disagree with a lot of his dross, and certainly the Amateurish way he goes about it, he is at least pushing himself to the limit for what he believes in / making a bit of money on the side. He is finding a way to play the system whilst retaining a firm ideology (albeit a much harder way). Also, to be clear, the above does not relate to people that are just unlucky in life, they are just unlucky. And anyone can be unlucky, no matter how wealthy they may be. Stevey? You end with the old, 'unlucky' monologue.....well sure.....luck is a huge part of life....by far the biggest determinate. Free will is questionable in its degrees of reality and in more ways than one we are all slaves to our genes. I didn't really regard your previous divisions as anything more than elitist stereotypes......elements of truth that ignore why these things happen....but that's ok.....You were having your whinge like everybody else. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 12.11pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 May 19 10.58am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

You can play the system and win, well, do better than ‘Just about Manage’ and still have a firm ideology.

'Playing the system'? Sounds to me like it's just another reworking of words to cover up hypocrisy.

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Part of me would really like to see Nigel (I’m not the political class but I am really) Farage win an election purely on Brexit, with no manifesto, no foreign policy, no substance other than ‘leave means leave’.

I can then sit back and watch as all the people that voted for him slowly get screwed over again in exactly the same way they always have. Then perhaps we won’t have this kind of borefest again for quite some time - people will realise that even when they think they’ve got a chance to matter in this world, they actually don’t. And in systems with power structures, the same outcomes always occur. Or become a socialist (how ironic).

You think you see the bigger picture obviously. Whereas I think long term the same path is written regardless of Brexit or not.

Brexit is about a principle. Long term It's about two fingers as the ship goes down.....Whether or not it hastens the ship going down or draws it out is as important as two beggars arguing over scraps.

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Choose a vocation that pays well, work hard (as I’m continually told on this forum apparently everyone has the same equal opportunity these days, no matter upbringing or circumstance) and play the system. Or be bitter and spend your life ranting on a forum, earning pennies because you’re blaming your own deficiencies in life on someone else, and expecting something like Brexit to increase your financial, cultural or other type of standing now or in the future. Bit of a risky gamble.

Cynical, that may have degrees of accuracy for some but not for others. Regardless, even if it were spot on, no one is required to pass some form of SW19 legitimacy test for a whinge.

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I know id rather use money to fuel personal agency and reinvestment in community causes, or even getting into politics as part of a ‘necessary evil’ approach than either

• working hard in a profession that is morally rewarding but financially bankrupt (I have ultimate respect for these people but they clearly have zero personal logic and common sense, even more so these days)

• dossing through my school years, not testing myself and falling into a mid wage job, probably labour based, which I grow to resent, and instead of blaming myself I blame whatever is available around me - politicians, Brexit, wealthier people etc. Then I end up with arthritis, no pension because I’ve spent it all on beer to numb the pain and end my days living in a council flat with no heating because of my own ineptitude.

To me it's just another example of the bourgeoisie defending acting like Alan B'Stard while claiming to be Rik......neo liberal nihilism....personally for what it's worth I think people should practice what they preach.

You claim to respect the class who actually keep the country moving while criticising their sense. As a former member of that class I think you deserve criticism here as well.

You may well think that nothing outside personal enrichment is sensible but....meh. The reality is that the professional choices that people make is heavily influenced by circumstance and luck. I suspect you are no different despite your apparent self congratulation.

Insomuch as someone chooses a more ethical profession than most I have a level of respect for that choice whether our politics would align or not.

Ultimately self regard matters and enrichment won't matter that much when you are in the grave. What you and those that mattered thought of you is perhaps more important than the size of the house you left.

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Even Stevey has my respect as although I disagree with a lot of his dross, and certainly the Amateurish way he goes about it, he is at least pushing himself to the limit for what he believes in / making a bit of money on the side. He is finding a way to play the system whilst retaining a firm ideology (albeit a much harder way).

Also, to be clear, the above does not relate to people that are just unlucky in life, they are just unlucky. And anyone can be unlucky, no matter how wealthy they may be.

Stevey?

You end with the old, 'unlucky' monologue.....well sure.....luck is a huge part of life....by far the biggest determinate.

Free will is questionable in its degrees of reality and in more ways than one we are all slaves to our genes.

I didn't really regard your previous divisions as anything more than elitist stereotypes......elements of truth that ignore why these things happen....but that's ok.....You were having your whinge like everybody else.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 12.11pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 22 May 19 11.14am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle The after effects? There won't be any except in the minds of the ultra Brexiteers. What will happen will happen anyway, whatever the EU election results throw up. The right wing of the Tory party are already circling the corpse of a lame duck PM ready to install a hardliner but that won't make any difference in the end because it's Parliament who are now controlling the agenda and not the Government. It will still be a pigs breakfast, but one with slightly different ingredients. It will still need compromise to sort out and increase the possibility of an early GE and a Labour led coalition Government. Some possible good analysis in there. However, it's still too early to be sure of anything. Personally I think the EU might cave if a hardliner is installed....People downplay the affect that losing the UK contribution to the budget would cause. The EU overspends considerably already. The EU's attitude probably depends upon if they think Labour will win enough seats to affect governmental change. Labour lie about their positioning to the public. Essentially a vote for them is a vote for the EU. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 11.17am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 May 19 11.14am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The after effects? There won't be any except in the minds of the ultra Brexiteers. What will happen will happen anyway, whatever the EU election results throw up.

The right wing of the Tory party are already circling the corpse of a lame duck PM ready to install a hardliner but that won't make any difference in the end because it's Parliament who are now controlling the agenda and not the Government.

It will still be a pigs breakfast, but one with slightly different ingredients. It will still need compromise to sort out and increase the possibility of an early GE and a Labour led coalition Government.

Some possible good analysis in there.

However, it's still too early to be sure of anything. Personally I think the EU might cave if a hardliner is installed....People downplay the affect that losing the UK contribution to the budget would cause. The EU overspends considerably already. The EU's attitude probably depends upon if they think Labour will win enough seats to affect governmental change.

Labour lie about their positioning to the public. Essentially a vote for them is a vote for the EU.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 11.17am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Park Road 22 May 19 11.20am
Is an opinion to which you are fully entitled. No s!* To which you have no need to listen if you choose not to but I can play if I do. No s!* Of course not! It's a subjective judgement. But you said my hero uses the word "sad" Implying he is my hero... you can call it subjective judgement if you want...but we know you are just wrong. Maybe grow up a bit stop speculating and stick to the facts... No.Only you can do that. I could tell you who I think it is, in the context of the original comment which I cannot either remember or be bothered to search for. I suspect though it might be Farage. Again no s! I stick to my original and correct statement stating your feeble attempts* I discredit no-one. People can only ever discredit themselves. Wrong again...it goes both ways...any reasonable human being acknowledges that... Not you tho. I have already said that whilst that is obviously true there are many things that are factual and not subject to interpretation or opinion. You have already said a lot of things over and over again... Until we actually leave nothing is a stone cold fact with Brexit. Article 50 could be rescinded. [b]We are leaving and that's it Wisbech get used to it. you don't need any facts to guess that is the likely outcome I am not "whining" or even complaining. All I ever try to do is correct the misunderstandings about the process and why democracy has not been overturned but actually has been reaffirmed by Parliament trying to sort out the mess in the way it has done. Those who continue to think that a referendum is a part of the UK democratic system are the ones who are doing all the "whining". Farage and his party being the most culpable. Oh yes you are whining like a little spoilt brat who didn't get is way... Like I said before, you're an embarrassment to the nation just like those politicians that you so wholey rely on to deliver... Edited by Park Road (22 May 2019 11.26am)

Park Road

22 May 19 11.20am

Is an opinion to which you are fully entitled.

No s***!

To which you have no need to listen if you choose not to but I can play if I do.

No s***!

Of course not! It's a subjective judgement.

But you said my hero uses the word "sad"
Implying he is my hero... you can call it subjective judgement if you want...but we know you are just wrong.
Maybe grow up a bit stop speculating and stick to the facts...

No.Only you can do that. I could tell you who I think it is, in the context of the original comment which I cannot either remember or be bothered to search for. I suspect though it might be Farage.

Again no s***! I stick to my original and correct statement stating your feeble attempts

I discredit no-one. People can only ever discredit themselves.

Wrong again...it goes both ways...any reasonable human being acknowledges that... Not you tho.

I have already said that whilst that is obviously true there are many things that are factual and not subject to interpretation or opinion.

You have already said a lot of things over and over again...

Until we actually leave nothing is a stone cold fact with Brexit. Article 50 could be rescinded.

[b]We are leaving and that's it Wisbech get used to it. you don't need any facts to guess that is the likely outcome

Oh yes you are whining like a little spoilt brat who didn't get is way... Like I said before, you're an embarrassment to the nation just like those politicians that you so wholey rely on to deliver...

Edited by Park Road (22 May 2019 11.26am)

Midlands Eagle 22 May 19 11.22am
Originally posted by Badger11 Polling Card Not Yet Arrived. Just been listening to LBC apparently lots of complaints that voters have not received their polling cards for tomorrow's election. Ours haven't arrived either. I telephoned the local council to be told that they went out at the end of April. We are on the register as we have lived here for 20 years and the Council Election voting cards turned up OK

Midlands Eagle

22 May 19 11.22am

Originally posted by Badger11

Polling Card Not Yet Arrived.

Just been listening to LBC apparently lots of complaints that voters have not received their polling cards for tomorrow's election.

Ours haven't arrived either. I telephoned the local council to be told that they went out at the end of April. We are on the register as we have lived here for 20 years and the Council Election voting cards turned up OK

Stirlingsays 22 May 19 11.34am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system. This is an EU vote. That was a referendum. Chalk and cheese! -.-' 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 May 19 11.34am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system.

This is an EU vote. That was a referendum.

Chalk and cheese!

-.-'

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 22 May 19 11.42am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Mmmm....depends upon the level of social conscience. Feels very 'pick and choose' to me, a form of convenience politics, where all the downsides magically don't affect themselves. Isn't picking and choosing between what you think is right and wrong once you've weighed up the facts what any sensible grown up should do? Blindly picking a side and fighting that corner is very primary school.

DanH

SW2 22 May 19 11.42am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmm....depends upon the level of social conscience.

Feels very 'pick and choose' to me, a form of convenience politics, where all the downsides magically don't affect themselves.

Isn't picking and choosing between what you think is right and wrong once you've weighed up the facts what any sensible grown up should do?

Blindly picking a side and fighting that corner is very primary school.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 11.49am
Originally posted by Park Road But you said my hero uses the word "sad" Implying he is my hero... you can call it subjective judgement if you want...but we know you are just wrong. Maybe grow up a bit stop speculating and stick to the facts.. I am obviously speculating! That's what an opinion is. Now perhaps you can enlighten us with the facts that only you know. Wrong again...it goes both ways...any reasonable human being acknowledges that... Not you tho. You have your opinion. I have mine. These are not issues of fact. You have already said a lot of things over and over again... Only because the same false claims are made over and over again. Once that stops so will the need to counter them. ]We are leaving and that's it Wisbech get used to it. you don't need any facts to guess that is the likely outcome You possess an infallible crystal ball perhaps? Let me know the lottery numbers please. Oh yes you are whining like a little spoilt brat who didn't get is way... Like I said before, you're an embarrassment to the nation just like those politicians that you so wholey rely on to deliver... The only "whining" that I hear is the mock outrage gushing from the likes of Farage and his sheep making the repeated fake claims about democracy being under threat. He and his kind are the embarrassment. Just look at the disdain shown to him by just about every respectable politician and political commentator. If you don't approve of the politicians who act on our behalf then gather enough support and change them. It's not you, or me, who decides who represents us. It all of us, acting together. That's democracy. Not whether one opinion gathers slightly more support than any other. Edited by Park Road (22 May 2019 11.26am) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 May 19 11.49am

Originally posted by Park Road

I am obviously speculating! That's what an opinion is. Now perhaps you can enlighten us with the facts that only you know.

Wrong again...it goes both ways...any reasonable human being acknowledges that... Not you tho.

You have your opinion. I have mine. These are not issues of fact.

You have already said a lot of things over and over again...

Only because the same false claims are made over and over again. Once that stops so will the need to counter them.

]We are leaving and that's it Wisbech get used to it. you don't need any facts to guess that is the likely outcome

You possess an infallible crystal ball perhaps? Let me know the lottery numbers please.

Oh yes you are whining like a little spoilt brat who didn't get is way... Like I said before, you're an embarrassment to the nation just like those politicians that you so wholey rely on to deliver...

The only "whining" that I hear is the mock outrage gushing from the likes of Farage and his sheep making the repeated fake claims about democracy being under threat. He and his kind are the embarrassment. Just look at the disdain shown to him by just about every respectable politician and political commentator. If you don't approve of the politicians who act on our behalf then gather enough support and change them. It's not you, or me, who decides who represents us. It all of us, acting together. That's democracy. Not whether one opinion gathers slightly more support than any other.

Edited by Park Road (22 May 2019 11.26am)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Park Road 22 May 19 11.53am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This is fun...

Park Road

22 May 19 11.53am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is fun...

Stirlingsays 22 May 19 12.03pm
Originally posted by DanH Isn't picking and choosing between what you think is right and wrong once you've weighed up the facts what any sensible grown up should do? Blindly picking a side and fighting that corner is very primary school. I have some sympathy for that. You are an individual and your thoughts and beliefs are yours and no one else's. However, if you don't pick a side then essentially you don't have one neither....so that is going to open you up to this form of criticism. I've read enough of your posts to know that you have political principles, even if we may disagree on them. I have respect for political sincerity. So while I may be snarky there's no heat behind it. In my opinion, which I'm happy to admit matters not a lot.....I think that if you choose to take the king's coin then ultimately......you're the king's man. That doesn't mean you can't think the King's a prat.....but you're still the King's man....or should be if you take his coin. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 12.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 May 19 12.03pm

Originally posted by DanH

Isn't picking and choosing between what you think is right and wrong once you've weighed up the facts what any sensible grown up should do?

Blindly picking a side and fighting that corner is very primary school.

I have some sympathy for that. You are an individual and your thoughts and beliefs are yours and no one else's. However, if you don't pick a side then essentially you don't have one neither....so that is going to open you up to this form of criticism.

I've read enough of your posts to know that you have political principles, even if we may disagree on them. I have respect for political sincerity. So while I may be snarky there's no heat behind it.

In my opinion, which I'm happy to admit matters not a lot.....I think that if you choose to take the king's coin then ultimately......you're the king's man.

That doesn't mean you can't think the King's a prat.....but you're still the King's man....or should be if you take his coin.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 12.08pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Park Road 22 May 19 12.07pm
I am obviously speculating! That's what an opinion is. Now perhaps you can enlighten us with the facts that only you know. Wrong again...you stated that you knew my hero.. you're even doing it again with farage... As for enlightenment you the master of speculative nonsense - mind your own business and stick to the facts... You have your opinion. I have mine. These are not issues of fact. Will you stop stating the obvious... Only because the same false claims are made over and over again. Once that stops so will the need to counter them. It's called whining wisbech You possess an infallible crystal ball perhaps? Let me know the lottery numbers please. No I'm just on the ball unlike you... I'll give you the first three numbers you can speculate what the other three will be... 1,2,3. The only "whining" that I hear is the mock outrage gushing from the likes of Farage and his sheep making the repeated fake claims about democracy being under threat. He and his kind are the embarrassment. Just look at the disdain shown to him by just about every respectable politician and political commentator. If you don't approve of the politicians who act on our behalf then gather enough support and change them. It's not you, or me, who decides who represents us. It all of us, acting together. That's democracy. Not whether one opinion gathers slightly more support than any other. Wrong again - whining most definitely coming from you

Park Road

22 May 19 12.07pm

I am obviously speculating! That's what an opinion is. Now perhaps you can enlighten us with the facts that only you know.

Wrong again...you stated that you knew my hero.. you're even doing it again with farage... As for enlightenment you the master of speculative nonsense - mind your own business and stick to the facts...

You have your opinion. I have mine. These are not issues of fact.

Will you stop stating the obvious...

Only because the same false claims are made over and over again. Once that stops so will the need to counter them.

It's called whining wisbech

You possess an infallible crystal ball perhaps? Let me know the lottery numbers please.

No I'm just on the ball unlike you...
I'll give you the first three numbers you can speculate what the other three will be...
1,2,3.

Wrong again - whining most definitely coming from you

Midlands Eagle 22 May 19 12.37pm
Originally posted by Park Road This is fun... It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe

Midlands Eagle

22 May 19 12.37pm

Originally posted by Park Road

This is fun...

It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe

dannyboy1978 22 May 19 12.43pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system. This is an EU vote. That was a referendum. Chalk and cheese! It's kinda in the name. Brexit party. A vote for the brexit party means a vote for brexit. If your saying remoaners can't be bothered to vote in a representative to the EU THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN, then whats the point in staying in.

dannyboy1978

22 May 19 12.43pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not unless the same people vote in the same numbers using the same system.

This is an EU vote. That was a referendum.

Chalk and cheese!

It's kinda in the name. Brexit party.
A vote for the brexit party means a vote for brexit. If your saying remoaners can't be bothered to vote in a representative to the EU THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN, then whats the point in staying in.

PalazioVecchio south pole 22 May 19 12.47pm
didnt the Spanish Civil War begin when the democratic wishes of the people were ignored ? And also the Irish War of Independence, among many others. scary times we live in. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 22 May 19 12.47pm

didnt the Spanish Civil War begin when the democratic wishes of the people were ignored ? And also the Irish War of Independence, among many others.

scary times we live in.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 May 19 1.01pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 It's kinda in the name. Brexit party. A vote for the brexit party means a vote for brexit. If your saying remoaners can't be bothered to vote in a representative to the EU THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN, then whats the point in staying in. Wow. The obvious missed by all. Good post. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 May 19 1.01pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Wow. The obvious missed by all. Good post.

COYP

Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 May 19 1.01pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe That is funny. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 May 19 1.01pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe

That is funny.

COYP

Stirlingsays 22 May 19 1.08pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

22 May 19 1.08pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's all right for you but I have to read all this tripe

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 22 May 19 1.22pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 It's kinda in the name. Brexit party. A vote for the brexit party means a vote for brexit. If your saying remoaners can't be bothered to vote in a representative to the EU THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN, then whats the point in staying in. This whisks me back to that heady night in 2016. You are hitting the nail on the head here, and showing precisely why a 2nd referendum is inevitable. Yes voting for Faragism is a vote for brexit, clue is in the party name. The only problem is that doesn’t move the issue along at all as the last 3 years have been spent trying to pick a particular type of Brexit, and unilaterally failing to do so. The brexit party will win big tomorrow, but it makes no difference to anything. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 22 May 19 1.22pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

It's kinda in the name. Brexit party.
A vote for the brexit party means a vote for brexit. If your saying remoaners can't be bothered to vote in a representative to the EU THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN, then whats the point in staying in.

This whisks me back to that heady night in 2016.

You are hitting the nail on the head here, and showing precisely why a 2nd referendum is inevitable.

Yes voting for Faragism is a vote for brexit, clue is in the party name. The only problem is that doesn’t move the issue along at all as the last 3 years have been spent trying to pick a particular type of Brexit, and unilaterally failing to do so.

The brexit party will win big tomorrow, but it makes no difference to anything.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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