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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 17 10.56am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Some extraordinary accounts of the bravery NOT only of the Police and security services but the general public and this will never be forgotten.

There are people who have lost loved ones, there are those whose loved ones have been critically injured.Must be unbearabale for ALL these people and my thoughts and prayers go out to them all.

I totally understand and agree with the decision of the main parties to suspend national campaigning for a day as a mark of respect and the decision that the 'General Election' should go ahead as planned on Thursday.

Edited by Willo (04 Jun 2017 11.19am)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jun 17 10.58am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Some show respect for the dead for a brief period of time,like the main political parties.Others have no class and don't. Simples.

Now, you three carry on and have a mutual froth in.I'm off.

The best way to show respect for the dead is to stop anyone else dying.
People need to discuss this stuff and find common ground.

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 04 Jun 17 10.59am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Some show respect for the dead for a brief period of time,like the main political parties.Others have no class and don't. Simples.

Now, you three carry on and have a mutual froth in.I'm off.

I'll "show some respect" for the dead (and indeed those still alive but badly injured) by discussing possible solutions to this cancerous growth in the hope, however small, that future such events can be avoided.

The logical extension of your argument is, that if there were atrocities like these on a daily basis, we could never discuss how we deal with this. No. If you don't want to be part of the discussion of how we deal with the consequences of the political position advocated for by those in your camp, then by all means disappear. From my end, you won't be missed.

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 04 Jun 17 11.00am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

I've said it before; proscribe the branch of medieval and backward warped interpretation of Islam that these b'stards follow and close down any mosques that allow its voice.

Wouldn't be difficult to do if there was the political will by the Gov but there isn't.

I agree. It's a start. And we have to start somewhere.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.03am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

It's remarkable, isn't it. After years and years of shutting down debate on the causes of these atrocities, the liberal left now want to shut down debate on the consequences.

Their political aims of a multicultural enrichment are now bearing fruit. 7 dead. 48 injured. Yes, they have indeed "rubbed our noses in the diversity". They now need to own it.

With the increasing frequency of attacks in Europe, there would never be "the right time" discuss these atrociries, as we're too busy scraping up bodies off the streets and preparing for the next one.


Multi-culturalist policy over the last 50 years has mostly come from the right-wing of the political divide as they were/have been in power when the most relevant agreements to encouraging it were signed.

And why aren't you blaming the killers for the attacks? Your thought processes and reasoning are not those of a man with a rational mind. I see it took you all of a few minutes for you to start point-scoring after the attacks happened. You seem to revel in it. Salivating almost. Not sure what goes on in your head but something is not quite right.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 17 11.06am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

There is a huge resistance against any change within the Islamic community.

Islamic reformers are not backed at all. They are in fear of their lives.

There needs to be a cultural shift within that community towards a secular mentality. Being secular doesn't mean you stop being religious. It means you believe in the separation of mosque and state.

'Render onto Ceasar what is Ceasar's' made this far more easy within Christianity. Whereas there is nothing like this in Islam. But without this we are always going to have this problem.

If we are going to have Islam in this country the reformers need to be backed. Social conservationism within Islam that frowns upon integration needs to stop.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 04 Jun 17 11.07am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Multi-culturalist policy over the last 50 years has mostly come from the right-wing of the political divide as they were/have been in power when the most relevant agreements to encouraging it were signed.

And why aren't you blaming the killers for the attacks? Your thought processes and reasoning are not those of a man with a rational mind. I see it took you all of a few minutes for you to start point-scoring after the attacks happened. You seem to revel in it. Salivating almost. Not sure what goes on in your head but something is not quite right.

Wow, that must be the maddest of your posts ever.

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.08am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

I agree. It's a start. And we have to start somewhere.

It won't happen because it would offend the Saudis. And then if we did do it car drivers would complain about the increased prices of petrol as a knock on effect.

All a bit fvcked up really.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jun 17 11.09am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is a huge resistance against any change within the Islamic community.

Islamic reformers are not backed at all. They are in fear of their lives.

There needs to be a cultural shift within that community towards a secular mentality. Being secular doesn't mean you stop being religious. It means you believe in the separation of mosque and state.

'Render onto Ceasar what is Ceasar's' made this far more easy within Christianity. Whereas there is nothing like this in Islam. But without this we are always going to have this problem.

If we are going to have Islam in this country the reformers need to be backed. Social conservationism within Islam that frowns upon integration needs to stop.



I think we are way past passive policies. Direct action is now required. Zero tolerance for any sympathisers or conspirators.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 04 Jun 17 11.10am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend


This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I
have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not
long, it is easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email
is Dr Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A man,
whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of
large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true
Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of
German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who
just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back
and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had
lost control, and the end of the world had come.' My family lost everything.

I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.

'We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is
a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live
in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely
irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant
to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in
the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment
in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any
one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.

'It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups
throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an
Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. 
It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It
is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

'The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent
majority,' is cowed and extraneous. 'Communist Russia was comprised of
Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were
responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority
were irrelevant.

'China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists
managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

'The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a 
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across 
South East Asia in

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.11am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Wow, that must be the maddest of your posts ever.

Whatever. Still true though. Not my problem if your brain can't process that. Suppose it would mean facing up to historical reality and you having to question and critique your own views and interpretations. . That's not going to happen, is it?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 17 11.13am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As usual with Kermy, up is down and left is right.

'Multiculturalism comes from the right'.....that's a real humdinger.

It stands right there with your, 'I backed Scottish independence, but I didn't really'.

Kermy sometimes you make flat earth theory sound like common sense.

If people look back at your previous commentary on this issue....You have said that mainstream Islam doesn't need reform. Directly against what the Islamic reformers say.

You may not intend it but essentially you run the arguments that end in people doing nothing.

 


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