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Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Aug 19 2.38am

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

On paper, 100% agree with you, if anyone ran on the back of removing all religion from all schools, I would vote for it in a heartbeat.
Big issue is with the "We need to be pro-active and control the agenda..." part. "We" cant agree on what the issue is, or even if there is one. I don't see that there is an issue at the moment other than maybe the press hammering almost dehumanising language to all foreigners to appeal to people that want to hear it.
I stand almost polar opposite to a lot of the people here and neither side are going to move from our position no matter how many arguments we have here...
If me and...for example...Stirlingsays can't agree on what the issues are, "We" can't even agree on what the agenda would be. You throw another 65 million people in there, nobody is controlling anything...

Love your concept on using "Soft-power" to instil national pride though, I just don't think it would work

I wouldn't be surprised if down the road 'something' emerges that upends everything we appear to think we should by worrying about and reframes the wider picture. The environment, a pandemic.. just something that readjusts our priorities in a way that's healthier and more purposeful than the current pantomime act.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Aug 19 2.40am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Eh? We were discussing integration. Brown babies innit. Try visiting Lidl in New Addington.

Wow, they sell everything now

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Aug 19 2.43am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider


Don’t underestimate nature. In this instance, do so at the peril of mankind. Don’t ever think we can ‘manage’ nature. Nature is a part of this world that protects it. We are a mere tenant who occasionally upsets the equilibrium which results in dramatic kick back. To suggest we can manage nature is frankly laughable.
I site earthquakes, eruptions, tidal waves,flooding, storms, etc. the list is long. All things way beyond our control that nature uses to re balance any imbalance we cause. If you disagree then so be it. This is merely my view. A view which I believe will lead to a significant reduction in mankind in years to come.

That's a good way of putting it. We often forget that.

 

DanH Flag SW2 07 Aug 19 8.09am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He has good energy for someone older than dust but he's clearly senile.....My blood pressure couldn't cope....It's one episode of Steptoe and Son that I wouldn't want to enact.

Lovely stuff when the fellow person who doesn’t leave his bedroom quotes his hero PJW and then has the temerity to call someone else senile.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Aug 19 8.27am

Originally posted by Lucretius


Yep, bang on.

Then the answer is simple.

You have no understanding and you just wish to indulge in stereotypes.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Aug 19 8.42am

Originally posted by Lucretius


Do you actually see yourself as a victim of genocide?

No. The extinction of Europeans will be victimless in that sense. It will happen by the process of replacement because of birth rates and migration.
People will not experience an overnight take over or 'extermination', they will simply reduce in numbers and one day in the not too distant future, the last old White European will go out for a slow walk to his or her local shop and there will be not another single White face to be seen.

Some will say so what. Some will be glad. Many won't even notice.

In an alternative history. Europeans realise their potential fate and make a conscious effort to have more children, say three instead of two, and refrain from mixed relationships that produce children.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.42am

Originally posted by dollardays

Yeah but what are the pasties like?

That depends on the pasty. There are the mass produced ones you can find in the supermarket. Then there are ones you can find in the specialist pasty shops on the high street. Then there are the ones the Cornish themselves eat. You have to be in the know to know where to find them. They are just wonderful.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.44am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not good enough to justify driving for hours and hours to get somewhere no nicer than scores of other places.

Millions of tourists disagree.

So do I, but don't worry, we won't miss you.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.59am

Originally posted by dollardays

If you're unhappy with the demographics of your locality where would you prefer to move to? I certainly appreciate that if an area changes at a rapid pace, it is naive and somewhat arrogant of people to infer that you're somehow not allowed to form an opinion on that.

If anything changes in life, a direct experience of it counts, which is of course one of the more compos mentis points you make, when you're not being lured further down the garden path. I think rate of change is always important, and is a reality that's lost where people tend to drift to complete opposite ends of the spectrum with their language on these issues.

Edited by dollardays (07 Aug 2019 1.15am)

I moved into Wisbech in 2002 when I bought a business there. Many eyebrows were raised by my friends as it had such a poor reputation. I was told it had some extremely odd people there, which was certainly confirmed during my time there. And since. Although there are also some really nice ones in the immigrant community.

I moved out of Wisbech when I sold my business and retired to Cornwall, which is an area I have always loved and have some connections with. There was nothing at all which demanded I remain in Wisbech.

If your work demands you live close to it then you make the best of it. Earning a living comes first, but when you have a free choice you can go where-ever you choose.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Aug 19 9.08am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Millions of tourists disagree.

So do I, but don't worry, we won't miss you.


If only there was some way of obtaining this Ambrosia of the Gods outside that particular backwater. Oh, wait.
Don’t concern yourself - I’ll leave you to play marbles undisturbed with all your thousands of Cornish admirers.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 9.10am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

As previously said this implies that the various nationalities and religions involved respect and love each other and they don’t. Do you honestly believe that Hindus and Muslims, West Indians and Africans, Poles and Russians, etc love and respect each other?

When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one.

That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected.

We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Aug 19 9.42am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one.

That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected.

We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded.

OK. If you say so. Personally I’d have thought hundreds of years of enmity aren’t going to be forgotten after a few lessons but maybe your hippy dreamscape is the way forward.

 

W12 07 Aug 19 11.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one.

That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected.

We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded.

These various groups are now entrenched, living parallel lives and don't identify as British (in fact there is much evidence of anti Britishness or even anti "whiteness" growing). Even the mainstream media recognizes that and all you can offer is a citizenship test? Why shouldn't we simply stop this?

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Aug 19 11.29am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I moved into Wisbech in 2002 when I bought a business there. Many eyebrows were raised by my friends as it had such a poor reputation. I was told it had some extremely odd people there, which was certainly confirmed during my time there. And since.

It takes all sorts!

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I moved out of Wisbech when I sold my business and retired to Cornwall, which is an area I have always loved and have some connections with. There was nothing at all which demanded I remain in Wisbech.

If your work demands you live close to it then you make the best of it. Earning a living comes first, but when you have a free choice you can go where-ever you choose.

Well, yes I tend to find that where people move is primarily very well aligned with their bank balance, rather than anything else.

Edited by dollardays (07 Aug 2019 11.30am)

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 3.59pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

OK. If you say so. Personally I’d have thought hundreds of years of enmity aren’t going to be forgotten after a few lessons but maybe your hippy dreamscape is the way forward.

You just don't get it do you?

Just as we don't carry the responsibility for our forefathers owning slaves because we have moved on in our way of thinking so will the future generations of immigrants, so long as we manage the situation correctly.

Going to British schools, watching British TV and being involved in British culture will ensure that. It's the schooling though that is the key. In the internet age if we allow a situation in which children grow up entirely surrounded by another culture nothing will change.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 4.05pm

Originally posted by W12

These various groups are now entrenched, living parallel lives and don't identify as British (in fact there is much evidence of anti Britishness or even anti "whiteness" growing). Even the mainstream media recognizes that and all you can offer is a citizenship test? Why shouldn't we simply stop this?

I recognise the problem but rather than just complain about it I have proposed what I believe to be the key to the solution. Not a "citizen test"! That's in place already and is the precursor to stronger action.The key is in the schools.

To just "stop it" seems such a simple idea, but there are many practical and legal barriers to such a policy, let alone any economic ones. It would also not do anything about those people already here who concern you.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Aug 19 4.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You just don't get it do you?

Just as we don't carry the responsibility for our forefathers owning slaves because we have moved on in our way of thinking so will the future generations of immigrants, so long as we manage the situation correctly.

Going to British schools, watching British TV and being involved in British culture will ensure that. It's the schooling though that is the key. In the internet age if we allow a situation in which children grow up entirely surrounded by another culture nothing will change.

You don’t get it either.
We’re dealing with a group of people who not only don’t want to be part of British culture but will actively resist the proposal. The Asst Police Commissioner has said that British Muslims, and others, should not be forced to assimilate.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 7.42pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

You don’t get it either.
We’re dealing with a group of people who not only don’t want to be part of British culture but will actively resist the proposal. The Asst Police Commissioner has said that British Muslims, and others, should not be forced to assimilate.

Let me try to help you get it.

The "group of people" you refer to will, over time, become another group of people. They will become second and third generation children of immigrants, who have been brought up surrounded by British culture and, so long as we don't isolate them, by British people too. That changes people. You can already see it with some of the youngsters kicking back against the authoritarian control of their parents. We need to slowly draw them into the mainstream.It's happened before and there is no valid reason why it cannot again. It just takes effort and patience.

I agree though with the Commissioner. Some folk are set in their ways and will not change so it would be counter productive to try to force them. We must not allow radical groups to claim martyrdom and recruit the young to their cause. That, by the way, is the biggest danger of the "Robinson" approach to this issue.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Aug 19 7.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Let me try to help you get it.

The "group of people" you refer to will, over time, become another group of people. They will become second and third generation children of immigrants, who have been brought up surrounded by British culture and, so long as we don't isolate them, by British people too. That changes people. You can already see it with some of the youngsters kicking back against the authoritarian control of their parents. We need to slowly draw them into the mainstream.It's happened before and there is no valid reason why it cannot again. It just takes effort and patience.

I agree though with the Commissioner. Some folk are set in their ways and will not change so it would be counter productive to try to force them. We must not allow radical groups to claim martyrdom and recruit the young to their cause. That, by the way, is the biggest danger of the "Robinson" approach to this issue.

So your solution is to wait 50 years and the situation will resolve itself.
In the meanwhile what happens with new arrivals? The process starts again and so will never end.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Aug 19 8.02pm

Originally posted by DanH

Lovely stuff when the fellow person who doesn’t leave his bedroom quotes his hero PJW and then has the temerity to call someone else senile.


Bless.

Maybe you should ask old Steptoe for a cheap room and a reacharound.

 


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