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YT Flag Oxford 01 Nov 19 8.44am

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

So you did believe them when they said they were going to get rid of the deficit? They have failed to do that against their own time scales multiple times and now don’t seem bothered about ever balancing it.

Therefore you are happy that the 'pain' of dealing with the mess left by Labour was less than it might otherwise have been. Yes?

Edited by YT (01 Nov 2019 8.44am)

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 9.31am

Originally posted by YT

Therefore you are happy that the 'pain' of dealing with the mess left by Labour was less than it might otherwise have been. Yes?

Edited by YT (01 Nov 2019 8.44am)

Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society.

Now look at it.

 

W12 01 Nov 19 10.15am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society.

Now look at it.

Labour started mass immigration and "multiculturalism" which is now destablalising the entire country.

Labour paid for this by putting us into huge amounts of national debt.

Labour helped start a war in the middle east that spread islamic extremism across the globe.

Of course you could just replace Labour with Blair but he was aided and abbetted by numerous other Fabians.

It's no accident that they use the symbol of a wolf in sheeps clothing.


Edited by W12 (01 Nov 2019 10.16am)

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Nov 19 10.31am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society.
Now look at it.

Exactly WHAT planet are you on steely because it aint the one we are all living on!

 


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Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 01 Nov 19 10.38am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society.

Now look at it.

You are clearly not.

 

Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 01 Nov 19 10.49am

Originally posted by W12

Labour started mass immigration and "multiculturalism" which is now destablalising the entire country.

Labour paid for this by putting us into huge amounts of national debt.

Labour helped start a war in the middle east that spread islamic extremism across the globe.

Of course you could just replace Labour with Blair but he was aided and abbetted by numerous other Fabians.

It's no accident that they use the symbol of a wolf in sheeps clothing.


Edited by W12 (01 Nov 2019 10.16am)

Chuck in severely taking their eye off the ball which lead to the biggest finance crisis this country had seen in a generation and will be a burden for generations to come to pay for. Blair and Brown really couldn't have done much worse.

 

DanH Flag SW2 01 Nov 19 10.56am

Originally posted by DanH

So you would *still* vote for the Tories even if they made it policy that you, personally, had to suck off a different bloke every day for the rest of your life?

Important that you clarify here.

No response to this susmik. At this point I am taking no answer as an affirmative, you dirty old man.

 

Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 01 Nov 19 10.58am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

its like choosing between syphilis or gonorrhea

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 19 11.11am

Farage is hinting that he will focus on Labour seats.

I think that natural Tory voters like myself voted for The Brexit party to force the Tories to honour their promises. I don't like Johnson's deal but I suspect that it is enough to lure those Brexit party voters back to the Tories.

Hopefully Farage will realise this and focus on the Northern Labour seats. The Brexit party organisation cannot be as good as the other parties as it is so new, better to concentrate on winnable seats rather than spread yourself to thin.

 


One more point

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Nov 19 11.53am

Originally posted by DanH

No response to this susmik. At this point I am taking no answer as an affirmative, you dirty old man.

I did post an answer to you at 7.26 yesterday my friend if you had bothered to look

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 11.54am

Originally posted by Badger11

Farage is hinting that he will focus on Labour seats.

I think that natural Tory voters like myself voted for The Brexit party to force the Tories to honour their promises. I don't like Johnson's deal but I suspect that it is enough to lure those Brexit party voters back to the Tories.

Hopefully Farage will realise this and focus on the Northern Labour seats. The Brexit party organisation cannot be as good as the other parties as it is so new, better to concentrate on winnable seats rather than spread yourself to thin.

Farage is offering an electoral alliance with the Conservatives but it is highly unlikely that Johnson will agree to one.

Without such an alliance, I fear that the chances of a 'Hung Parliament' are greatly increased.I was always of the opinion that going in a GE without Brexit being delivered was a real danger for the Conservatives because it brought the Brexit party into play.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 11.59am

Originally posted by Willo

Farage is offering an electoral alliance with the Conservatives but it is highly unlikely that Johnson will agree to one.

Without such an alliance, I fear that the chances of a 'Hung Parliament' are greatly increased.I was always of the opinion that going in a GE without Brexit being delivered was a real danger for the Conservatives because it brought the Brexit party into play.

An alliance seems like a no brainer to me. I don't imagine that Farage would demand that many seats.

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Nov 19 12.05pm

You only have to look at the choices on offer:
1. Corbyns communist party.
2. Joe Swinsons Liberal party who will go against
the voters wishes under any circumstances.
3 Nigel Farage who wants what Boris wants. Hence why he is going to hit the Labour areas in the General Election and not contest Tory areas.

All the other low grade parties like The Greens who have ONE MP Caroline Lucas who does not know what she really wants and to be honest is lucky to be in her job.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 12.11pm

Originally posted by susmik

You only have to look at the choices on offer:
1. Corbyns communist party.
2. Joe Swinsons Liberal party who will go against
the voters wishes under any circumstances.
3 Nigel Farage who wants what Boris wants. Hence why he is going to hit the Labour areas in the General Election and not contest Tory areas.

All the other low grade parties like The Greens who have ONE MP Caroline Lucas who does not know what she really wants and to be honest is lucky to be in her job.

Yes indeed, but Farage has been critical of the Brexit deal agreed between Johnson and the EU and Johnson has nailed his colours to the mast on this matter.

Some might conclude that any alliance will greatly enhance the chances of a comfortable Conservative majority and for this reason perhaps many supporters and activists who think this way might favour such a pact.I will find out of course!

Edited by Willo (01 Nov 2019 12.17pm)

 

Deleted11 01 Nov 19 12.22pm

I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else.
Honestly, I think we are in the last days of Rome, whether Brexit gets done or not. I just don't see how Brexit really solves any problems, for example, as a standalone principal of being in control, I agree with, but we're not in the 17 or 1800s. The new emperors are China and USA, so to say we will have control is a little misleading, because it could get to a situation where we won't do deals with anyone because they potentially can influence our laws and regulations as well as our economy if we do not adhere to their wims.

Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better.

We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Nov 19 1.34pm

Originally posted by Jway89

I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else.
Honestly, I think we are in the last days of Rome, whether Brexit gets done or not. I just don't see how Brexit really solves any problems, for example, as a standalone principal of being in control, I agree with, but we're not in the 17 or 1800s. The new emperors are China and USA, so to say we will have control is a little misleading, because it could get to a situation where we won't do deals with anyone because they potentially can influence our laws and regulations as well as our economy if we do not adhere to their wims.

Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better.

We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder.

At last. An intriguing point of view.

I actually quite like this. No matter what route you choose, we're going to end up in the same place anyway. Certainly a possibility, and always good to think about things in a slightly more rounded way, beyond the usual 'Brexeet becas I voted fur it and that' / 'No Brexeet becas I didn't vote fur it and that'

Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Nov 2019 1.38pm)

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 01 Nov 19 1.37pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Chuck in severely taking their eye off the ball which lead to the biggest finance crisis this country had seen in a generation and will be a burden for generations to come to pay for. Blair and Brown really couldn't have done much worse.

No more boom and bust lol

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Nov 19 1.41pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

No more boom and bust lol

I'm not a massive supporter of Labour, or any political party, frankly. I vote because I should, not because I am in rapture to their false claims and attempts at equivalence. But if this narrative means you think anyone other than Labour could have foreseen, or dodged, the great recession, you're an idiot. But then we already...

Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Nov 2019 1.51pm)

 


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DanH Flag SW2 01 Nov 19 1.49pm

If Farage follows through with his threat to stand a Brexit MP in every seat he could hilariously defeat both Remain and Leave. Scenes.

 

W12 01 Nov 19 1.51pm

Originally posted by Jway89

I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else.
Honestly, I think we are in the last days of Rome, whether Brexit gets done or not. I just don't see how Brexit really solves any problems, for example, as a standalone principal of being in control, I agree with, but we're not in the 17 or 1800s. The new emperors are China and USA, so to say we will have control is a little misleading, because it could get to a situation where we won't do deals with anyone because they potentially can influence our laws and regulations as well as our economy if we do not adhere to their wims.

Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better.

We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder.

If you see China and the US as interchangable and equivalent then that may make some sense. Why do you think Hong King protestors were waving the American flag? The problem we have is that the ideals of the West that created both the richest, most free and most culturally rich heretige have been undermined by liberalism (which is ironically a by-product of that success). It's at the heart of Brexit, Trump and the culture wars currently raging across all across the western nations.

 

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