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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle
So you did believe them when they said they were going to get rid of the deficit? They have failed to do that against their own time scales multiple times and now don’t seem bothered about ever balancing it. Therefore you are happy that the 'pain' of dealing with the mess left by Labour was less than it might otherwise have been. Yes? Edited by YT (01 Nov 2019 8.44am)
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Originally posted by YT
Therefore you are happy that the 'pain' of dealing with the mess left by Labour was less than it might otherwise have been. Yes? Edited by YT (01 Nov 2019 8.44am) Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society. Now look at it.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society. Now look at it. Labour started mass immigration and "multiculturalism" which is now destablalising the entire country. Labour paid for this by putting us into huge amounts of national debt. Labour helped start a war in the middle east that spread islamic extremism across the globe. Of course you could just replace Labour with Blair but he was aided and abbetted by numerous other Fabians. It's no accident that they use the symbol of a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society. Exactly WHAT planet are you on steely because it aint the one we are all living on!
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour did not leave any mess, they left a sane and balanced society. Now look at it. You are clearly not.
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Originally posted by W12
Labour started mass immigration and "multiculturalism" which is now destablalising the entire country. Labour paid for this by putting us into huge amounts of national debt. Labour helped start a war in the middle east that spread islamic extremism across the globe. Of course you could just replace Labour with Blair but he was aided and abbetted by numerous other Fabians. It's no accident that they use the symbol of a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Chuck in severely taking their eye off the ball which lead to the biggest finance crisis this country had seen in a generation and will be a burden for generations to come to pay for. Blair and Brown really couldn't have done much worse.
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Originally posted by DanH
So you would *still* vote for the Tories even if they made it policy that you, personally, had to suck off a different bloke every day for the rest of your life? Important that you clarify here. No response to this susmik. At this point I am taking no answer as an affirmative, you dirty old man.
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
its like choosing between syphilis or gonorrhea
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Originally posted by DanH
No response to this susmik. At this point I am taking no answer as an affirmative, you dirty old man. I did post an answer to you at 7.26 yesterday my friend if you had bothered to look
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Originally posted by Badger11
Farage is hinting that he will focus on Labour seats. I think that natural Tory voters like myself voted for The Brexit party to force the Tories to honour their promises. I don't like Johnson's deal but I suspect that it is enough to lure those Brexit party voters back to the Tories. Hopefully Farage will realise this and focus on the Northern Labour seats. The Brexit party organisation cannot be as good as the other parties as it is so new, better to concentrate on winnable seats rather than spread yourself to thin. Farage is offering an electoral alliance with the Conservatives but it is highly unlikely that Johnson will agree to one. Without such an alliance, I fear that the chances of a 'Hung Parliament' are greatly increased.I was always of the opinion that going in a GE without Brexit being delivered was a real danger for the Conservatives because it brought the Brexit party into play.
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Originally posted by Willo
Farage is offering an electoral alliance with the Conservatives but it is highly unlikely that Johnson will agree to one. Without such an alliance, I fear that the chances of a 'Hung Parliament' are greatly increased.I was always of the opinion that going in a GE without Brexit being delivered was a real danger for the Conservatives because it brought the Brexit party into play. An alliance seems like a no brainer to me. I don't imagine that Farage would demand that many seats.
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Originally posted by susmik
You only have to look at the choices on offer: All the other low grade parties like The Greens who have ONE MP Caroline Lucas who does not know what she really wants and to be honest is lucky to be in her job. Yes indeed, but Farage has been critical of the Brexit deal agreed between Johnson and the EU and Johnson has nailed his colours to the mast on this matter. Some might conclude that any alliance will greatly enhance the chances of a comfortable Conservative majority and for this reason perhaps many supporters and activists who think this way might favour such a pact.I will find out of course! Edited by Willo (01 Nov 2019 12.17pm)
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Originally posted by Jway89
I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else. Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better. We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder. At last. An intriguing point of view. I actually quite like this. No matter what route you choose, we're going to end up in the same place anyway. Certainly a possibility, and always good to think about things in a slightly more rounded way, beyond the usual 'Brexeet becas I voted fur it and that' / 'No Brexeet becas I didn't vote fur it and that' Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Nov 2019 1.38pm)
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
Chuck in severely taking their eye off the ball which lead to the biggest finance crisis this country had seen in a generation and will be a burden for generations to come to pay for. Blair and Brown really couldn't have done much worse. No more boom and bust lol
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
No more boom and bust lol I'm not a massive supporter of Labour, or any political party, frankly. I vote because I should, not because I am in rapture to their false claims and attempts at equivalence. But if this narrative means you think anyone other than Labour could have foreseen, or dodged, the great recession, you're an idiot. But then we already... Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Nov 2019 1.51pm)
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If Farage follows through with his threat to stand a Brexit MP in every seat he could hilariously defeat both Remain and Leave. Scenes.
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Originally posted by Jway89
I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else. Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better. We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder. If you see China and the US as interchangable and equivalent then that may make some sense. Why do you think Hong King protestors were waving the American flag? The problem we have is that the ideals of the West that created both the richest, most free and most culturally rich heretige have been undermined by liberalism (which is ironically a by-product of that success). It's at the heart of Brexit, Trump and the culture wars currently raging across all across the western nations.
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