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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well, I, for one, am very irritated by this and somewhat perplexed. He is a lot better than Schlupp so what was not to like? We need a fresh face in the dressing room for the sake of morale at least. Can’t say I disagree with you
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well, I, for one, am very irritated by this and somewhat perplexed. He is a lot better than Schlupp so what was not to like? We need a fresh face in the dressing room for the sake of morale at least. Once Eveton came in it was game over, Lamparse, must have said I'll take over but I want VDB, 20 miles up the road, girlfriend is expecting too, so doesn't have to move. Also Everton paying loan fee and full wages, we only offered 85% of wages, so he didn't have a choice Man Utd would have told him where to go. Would have been nice for 4 months, but imagine trying to replace him and Gallagher in the summer.
My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018 |
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Originally posted by sotac464
Once Eveton came in it was game over, Lamparse, must have said I'll take over but I want VDB, 20 miles up the road, girlfriend is expecting too, so doesn't have to move. Also Everton paying loan fee and full wages, we only offered 85% of wages, so he didn't have a choice Man Utd would have told him where to go. Would have been nice for 4 months, but imagine trying to replace him and Gallagher in the summer. I'll take that positive spin.
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On the Palace site there was mention of Ramsey, Bamba and Mateta. But not DVB. Seems a big fuss about nothing to me.
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Originally posted by silvertop
I'll take that positive spin.
My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018 |
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Originally posted by Daddyorc
As I mentioned before, I'm not sure why we would want a loan for six months for anyone on high wages. We are strong enough as is to avoid relegation, and we are not making Europe. I understand each place in the table is about GBP 2 million, but unless we're sure he could get us a couple of places higher then we'd just be doing Man U a favour for nothing. I'm not upset about not loaning him at all. I do agree, but the fact we could be signing someone even on loan for 4 months, who played in the champions league semi final 3 years ago, was exciting, and seeing him and Gallagher in our midfield, for 4 months only, would be the most brilliant time for me as a Palace fan for more than 30 years, even for only a short time.
My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018 |
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Originally posted by sotac464
I do agree, but the fact we could be signing someone even on loan for 4 months, who played in the champions league semi final 3 years ago, was exciting, and seeing him and Gallagher in our midfield, for 4 months only, would be the most brilliant time for me as a Palace fan for more than 30 years, even for only a short time. Two ways of looking at it. He isnt very good otherwise, he would be in the UTD midfield, 2 managers choose not to play him. He wont be blocking our own players from progressing.
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Originally posted by CPFC1965
If he'd done what Favre did to us then I can understand the anger, but for a 4 month loan , why would anyone unpsticks and move to London when he can stay where he's settled. London, Croydon & surrounding area's do have things called hotels. So, no need to 'upsticks'.
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I was just going to say - at £100,000. a week the cost of a nice hotel room (or suite) on a monthly rate wouldn't break the bank. Originally posted by eagleman13
London, Croydon & surrounding area's do have things called hotels. So, no need to 'upsticks'.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well, I, for one, am very irritated by this and somewhat perplexed. He is a lot better than Schlupp so what was not to like? We need a fresh face in the dressing room for the sake of morale at least. Sounds like it was more that Everton were willing to throw money at the problem vs him choosing them over us. Annoying, but it was a nice to have. Everton are also an absolute mess at the min. Not sure moral is an issue unless I've missed anything?
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
For all the positive steps forward we have taken the last 6 months, we still tend to show a slightly smaller club mentality when it comes to getting deals over the line. To be fair I’m totally ambivalent with regard to DVdB as I’m not sure he would have been right for us but if the club really thought he was the right player then maybe trying to knock a few quid off here and there in negotiations has backfired as Everton have jumped in and offered full wages plus loan fee. We will never know the fully story but we do appear to lose a lot of our targets to West Ham and other clubs of that ilk. I was kind of hoping we had moved on from that, maybe we will maybe we won’t, approach to transfer business. I am however pleased to hear from Darren Ambrose that there are transfer plans afoot for the summer so perhaps PV is not currently that concerned about improving our existing playing staff using expensive loans and can wait for season end. Of course the other way of viewing this is that everything about Ramsey and DVdB was click bait and therefore we were not particularly bothered about signing them anyway, in which case I am misjudging the situation. I think all fans like to see one or two January signings, but we all know the associated cost of business this time of year so maybe we are best out of it. We will know for certain by the end of the day anyway. I hate to break it to you but we still are. West Ham and Everton gazump us because they have more money and are prepared to chuck as much at the seller as the seller demands. Not necessarily a bad thing for us. We are a middling sized club run prudently on sustainable grounds. You play for us if you want first team football in the premier league and get paid well. But if you want to pull our pants down, go elsewhere. On young Donny, would have loved him to have played for us for a bit, but it was not to be.
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Originally posted by silvertop
I hate to break it to you but we still are. West Ham and Everton gazump us because they have more money and are prepared to chuck as much at the seller as the seller demands. Not necessarily a bad thing for us. We are a middling sized club run prudently on sustainable grounds. You play for us if you want first team football in the premier league and get paid well. But if you want to pull our pants down, go elsewhere. On young Donny, would have loved him to have played for us for a bit, but it was not to be. You are not breaking any news to me. I know exactly where we sit in the pecking order. I had rather hoped however that the shopping in Poundland approach was gone and if we were committed to a player then we’d see it through. We knew what the price was but allowed another club to take him from under our noses. If the response from our club was they wanted too much or we don’t think he is worth that much then fine however if we we have let a player of his quality go for the sake of a couple of extra £100k over 4 months then more the fool us. He could have possibly earned us 3 additional places in the league come season end and that would have paid his wages.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
You are not breaking any news to me. I know exactly where we sit in the pecking order. I had rather hoped however that the shopping in Poundland approach was gone and if we were committed to a player then we’d see it through. We knew what the price was but allowed another club to take him from under our noses. If the response from our club was they wanted too much or we don’t think he is worth that much then fine however if we we have let a player of his quality go for the sake of a couple of extra £100k over 4 months then more the fool us. He could have possibly earned us 3 additional places in the league come season end and that would have paid his wages.
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Originally posted by doombear
Totally agree with this and think it was the latter as you mention. His value is as much as we are willing to pay and for a position we are not screaming out for seems foolish. Maybe we'd rather splash the cash on another international star....
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