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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 12.36am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays To an extent, but I think that context is allowed to explain away a lot of double standards. Still, regardless I think you'd should be allowed to say whatever the feck you want about anybody regardless. Jim Davidson for next Tory PM. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 12.28am) It is, but not in this instance. The statement stands no matter what colour or creed, mainly because I didn’t say ‘Go back to your own country’ to someone that didn’t look quintessentially English, wearing a flat cap whilst eating pie and mash. Clear difference. Maybe he’s had too many Spitfires. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 12.36am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

To an extent, but I think that context is allowed to explain away a lot of double standards.

Still, regardless I think you'd should be allowed to say whatever the feck you want about anybody regardless.

Jim Davidson for next Tory PM.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 12.28am)

It is, but not in this instance. The statement stands no matter what colour or creed, mainly because I didn’t say ‘Go back to your own country’ to someone that didn’t look quintessentially English, wearing a flat cap whilst eating pie and mash. Clear difference. Maybe he’s had too many Spitfires.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 12.37am
Originally posted by Matov It is Brexit. As simple as that. I am f***ing boring about it but just the constituency break down of the Brexit vote and the Euro's told the picture. Anybody who thought a second referendum was a good idea is the problem. Possibly the worse of all options. Yeah you’re right. I still feel like people didn’t know what they were voting for though. I have a lot or respect for you because you know why you voted for it and can articulate the reasons. A rare breed.

DanH

SW2 13 Dec 19 12.37am

Originally posted by Matov

It is Brexit. As simple as that. I am f***ing boring about it but just the constituency break down of the Brexit vote and the Euro's told the picture.

Anybody who thought a second referendum was a good idea is the problem. Possibly the worse of all options.

Yeah you’re right. I still feel like people didn’t know what they were voting for though.

I have a lot or respect for you because you know why you voted for it and can articulate the reasons. A rare breed.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 12.37am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC In addition to the fact his household earns many many times over the average national household wage yet he complains about any potential for a slight increase in tax, all while insinuating that a rebate should be in order for sending his kids to private school and paying for private healthcare. Back on message - all things considered I agree it will be very interesting to see how a clear majority performs over the next 12 months, but I still can’t see anything other than yet another extension occurring come the end of the year. Unless Boris really does move significantly towards the EU thus making negotiations easier. Either way people shouldn’t get too carried away if they voted solely on Brexit. Plenty of likely scenarios where you end up with a solution pretty close to Labours. Then what do you do? I'm not so sure this 'Boris back to the centre' on the EU is what is going to happen. Essentially the vast majority of those Tory MPs are going to be signed up leavers now. It's going to be a vastly different looking parliament. They are going to be cruising for a bruising with the EU for at least three years. I don't see them picking fights with Boris after he put them there. We will see. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 12.37am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

In addition to the fact his household earns many many times over the average national household wage yet he complains about any potential for a slight increase in tax, all while insinuating that a rebate should be in order for sending his kids to private school and paying for private healthcare.

Back on message - all things considered I agree it will be very interesting to see how a clear majority performs over the next 12 months, but I still can’t see anything other than yet another extension occurring come the end of the year. Unless Boris really does move significantly towards the EU thus making negotiations easier.

Either way people shouldn’t get too carried away if they voted solely on Brexit. Plenty of likely scenarios where you end up with a solution pretty close to Labours. Then what do you do?

I'm not so sure this 'Boris back to the centre' on the EU is what is going to happen. Essentially the vast majority of those Tory MPs are going to be signed up leavers now.

It's going to be a vastly different looking parliament.

They are going to be cruising for a bruising with the EU for at least three years. I don't see them picking fights with Boris after he put them there.

We will see.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 12.39am
Originally posted by Badger11 Lots of the political pundits saying tonight that if Johnson gets his win the new Tory northern MPs will push him back to the centre. The next GE will not be about Brexit so they must come up with policies to keep those northern Tories onside. Hope so.

DanH

SW2 13 Dec 19 12.39am

Originally posted by Badger11

Lots of the political pundits saying tonight that if Johnson gets his win the new Tory northern MPs will push him back to the centre. The next GE will not be about Brexit so they must come up with policies to keep those northern Tories onside.

Hope so.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 12.41am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm not so sure this 'Boris back to the centre' on the EU is what is going to happen. Essentially the vast majority of those Tory MPs are going to be signed up leavers now. It's going to be a vastly different looking parliament. They are going to be cruising for a bruising with the EU for at least three years. I don't see them picking fights with Boris after he put them there. We will see. I’m certainly not sure but all things considered I don’t think it’s an unlikely scenario I certainly think people should be careful about getting too excited. In fact if they are excited I’d love to know what they are excited about. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 12.41am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not so sure this 'Boris back to the centre' on the EU is what is going to happen. Essentially the vast majority of those Tory MPs are going to be signed up leavers now.

It's going to be a vastly different looking parliament.

They are going to be cruising for a bruising with the EU for at least three years. I don't see them picking fights with Boris after he put them there.

We will see.

I’m certainly not sure but all things considered I don’t think it’s an unlikely scenario

I certainly think people should be careful about getting too excited. In fact if they are excited I’d love to know what they are excited about.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 12.49am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC It is, but not in this instance. The statement stands no matter what colour or creed, mainly because I didn’t say ‘Go back to your own country’ to someone that didn’t look quintessentially English, wearing a flat cap whilst eating pie and mash. Clear difference. Maybe he’s had too many Spitfires. Noted. I should imagine Hrolf is feeling quite positive. Still, I'll still be surprised if it's 80+ seats.....I think, like with Trump, some would have been embarrassed to admit that they voted Corbyn......65 maybe. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 12.49am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Noted.

I should imagine Hrolf is feeling quite positive. Still, I'll still be surprised if it's 80+ seats.....I think, like with Trump, some would have been embarrassed to admit that they voted Corbyn......65 maybe.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

davenotamonkey 13 Dec 19 12.49am
It's looking seriously bad for Labour. Absolutely f***ing delicious. If these results bear out, then it serves every single Brexit-blocking anti-democratic cretin right. Lib Dems have made ZERO impact, despite delivering kilos of election junk through my door. I am currently absolutely reveling in the misery of the die-hard Remain nutjobs on social media. Your internet echo chamber is not reality. Enjoy.

davenotamonkey

13 Dec 19 12.49am

It's looking seriously bad for Labour.

Absolutely f***ing delicious. If these results bear out, then it serves every single Brexit-blocking anti-democratic cretin right. Lib Dems have made ZERO impact, despite delivering kilos of election junk through my door.

I am currently absolutely reveling in the misery of the die-hard Remain nutjobs on social media.

Your internet echo chamber is not reality. Enjoy.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 12.55am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I’m certainly not sure but all things considered I don’t think it’s an unlikely scenario I certainly think people should be careful about getting too excited. In fact if they are excited I’d love to know what they are excited about. Yeah, yeah....you're still anglo saxon, you know exactly what it is even if you don't agree with it. It's the two fingered job to whoever they think needs it the most. The Scottish view that as the English and the English/Welsh view that as the EU. This result is all essentially about dissatisfaction.....with Corbyn and the parliament blocking the referendum result. If Johnson had ran against Corbyn in 2017 he would have still won a majority but I think it'd have been far closer to your 20-30 seat view. There was a feeling that democracy was being ignored and that politicians were ignoring those who put them there. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 12.56am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 12.55am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I’m certainly not sure but all things considered I don’t think it’s an unlikely scenario

I certainly think people should be careful about getting too excited. In fact if they are excited I’d love to know what they are excited about.

Yeah, yeah....you're still anglo saxon, you know exactly what it is even if you don't agree with it.

It's the two fingered job to whoever they think needs it the most.

The Scottish view that as the English and the English/Welsh view that as the EU.

This result is all essentially about dissatisfaction.....with Corbyn and the parliament blocking the referendum result.

If Johnson had ran against Corbyn in 2017 he would have still won a majority but I think it'd have been far closer to your 20-30 seat view.

There was a feeling that democracy was being ignored and that politicians were ignoring those who put them there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 12.56am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

davenotamonkey 13 Dec 19 12.56am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey It's looking seriously bad for Labour. Absolutely f***ing delicious. If these results bear out, then it serves every single Brexit-blocking anti-democratic cretin right. Lib Dems have made ZERO impact, despite delivering kilos of election junk through my door. I am currently absolutely reveling in the misery of the die-hard Remain nutjobs on social media. Your internet echo chamber is not reality. Enjoy. And yes. If it sounds like I'm gloating, I am. I've had to vote 5 TIMES to tell the political classes I want to (and still want to) leave the EU. Are you listening now?

davenotamonkey

13 Dec 19 12.56am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

It's looking seriously bad for Labour.

I am currently absolutely reveling in the misery of the die-hard Remain nutjobs on social media.

Your internet echo chamber is not reality. Enjoy.

And yes. If it sounds like I'm gloating, I am. I've had to vote 5 TIMES to tell the political classes I want to (and still want to) leave the EU.

Are you listening now?

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 1.01am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey And yes. If it sounds like I'm gloating, I am. I've had to vote 5 TIMES to tell the political classes I want to (and still want to) leave the EU. Are you listening now? If you can't gloat on an election night when can you gloat. Still, I know some good Labour people....which unfortunately includes my sister.....and so, you know. Besides, for people like us Johnson is still pretty lukewarm on most things.....but he should be good on Brexit and free speech....at least compared to what we had before. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 1.01am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

And yes. If it sounds like I'm gloating, I am. I've had to vote 5 TIMES to tell the political classes I want to (and still want to) leave the EU.

Are you listening now?

If you can't gloat on an election night when can you gloat.

Still, I know some good Labour people....which unfortunately includes my sister.....and so, you know.

Besides, for people like us Johnson is still pretty lukewarm on most things.....but he should be good on Brexit and free speech....at least compared to what we had before.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 19 1.03am
Originally posted by Matov It is Brexit. As simple as that. I am f*ing boring about it but just the constituency break down of the Brexit vote and the Euro's told the picture. Anybody who thought a second referendum was a good idea is the problem. Possibly the worse of all options. You said yourself that the referendum went deeper than finances, political vIews, allegiance and loyalty. It meant so much more and people weren’t going to give in, hence the Ref 2 brigade and this. So the ref 2 brigade didn’t back down and the leavers today didn’t back down, and won it again, with a lot of ‘come on and get it moving because we’re bored or want other stuff sorted.’ I do also think there was a fair bit of an opposition to socialism, or a drive to bankruptcy or rising interest rates, although many wouldn’t know how it would hit, just imagining that it would, badly, and probably quickly. COYP**

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Dec 19 1.03am

Originally posted by Matov

It is Brexit. As simple as that. I am f***ing boring about it but just the constituency break down of the Brexit vote and the Euro's told the picture.

Anybody who thought a second referendum was a good idea is the problem. Possibly the worse of all options.

You said yourself that the referendum went deeper than finances, political vIews, allegiance and loyalty. It meant so much more and people weren’t going to give in, hence the Ref 2 brigade and this. So the ref 2 brigade didn’t back down and the leavers today didn’t back down, and won it again, with a lot of ‘come on and get it moving because we’re bored or want other stuff sorted.’

I do also think there was a fair bit of an opposition to socialism, or a drive to bankruptcy or rising interest rates, although many wouldn’t know how it would hit, just imagining that it would, badly, and probably quickly.

COYP

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 1.12am
Just seen a clip of Alan Johnson ranting at the Momentum founder in the ITV studio - camera then cuts to George Osborne and Ed Balls. The look of glee on Osbournes face Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 1.12am

Just seen a clip of Alan Johnson ranting at the Momentum founder in the ITV studio - camera then cuts to George Osborne and Ed Balls. The look of glee on Osbournes face

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 1.20am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Just seen a clip of Alan Johnson ranting at the Momentum founder in the ITV studio - camera then cuts to George Osborne and Ed Balls. The look of glee on Osbournes face Sounds like a popcorn moment. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.30am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 1.20am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Just seen a clip of Alan Johnson ranting at the Momentum founder in the ITV studio - camera then cuts to George Osborne and Ed Balls. The look of glee on Osbournes face

Sounds like a popcorn moment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.30am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 1.26am
I might have found it. [Link] Look at that slimy git's face.....Never liked Osborne but I admit you gonna laugh. Spicy from Johnson. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.29am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 1.26am

I might have found it.

[Link]

Look at that slimy git's face.....Never liked Osborne but I admit you gonna laugh.

Spicy from Johnson.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.29am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 1.36am
Right then. With the Booreyboys gaining Workington via a strategy based solely on a patronising simpleton esque stereotype (which alarmingly must be genuine) we’ve reached peak election dross. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Dec 19 1.36am

Right then. With the Booreyboys gaining Workington via a strategy based solely on a patronising simpleton esque stereotype (which alarmingly must be genuine) we’ve reached peak election dross.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 1.42am
Tonight saw the death of 'Remain'. So in a way....Corbyn also got something he wanted. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.43am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 1.42am

Tonight saw the death of 'Remain'.

So in a way....Corbyn also got something he wanted.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 1.43am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

sickboy Deal or Croydon 13 Dec 19 3.47am
Jo Swinson loses her place as an MP. Not been a great election for her.

sickboy

Deal or Croydon 13 Dec 19 3.47am

Jo Swinson loses her place as an MP.
Not been a great election for her.

davenotamonkey 13 Dec 19 3.51am
Originally posted by sickboy Jo Swinson loses her place as an MP. Not been a great election for her. ...but she told me she was going to be the next PM? She sent me non-stop s*** through the post. Haha. Delicious.

davenotamonkey

13 Dec 19 3.51am

Originally posted by sickboy

Jo Swinson loses her place as an MP.
Not been a great election for her.

...but she told me she was going to be the next PM? She sent me non-stop s*** through the post.

Haha. Delicious.

sickboy Deal or Croydon 13 Dec 19 4.34am
Stick a pair of black wayfairers on Huw Edwards et voila. Max Headroom.

sickboy

Deal or Croydon 13 Dec 19 4.34am

Stick a pair of black wayfairers on Huw Edwards et voila.
Max Headroom.

Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 4.34am
Coffee.....MORE COFFEE! 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Dec 19 4.34am

Coffee.....MORE COFFEE!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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