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Viktory.
Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2021 9.38pm)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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Just like this?
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Just like this? I wouldn't be smiling with Elephantiasis.
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A split in Govt ranks . . . ?
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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She'll be in trouble now.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
She'll be in trouble now. Wonder what name she posts under?
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Wonder what name she posts under? Kinkicane4u
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Kinkicane4u You sure you've got the right site there?
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Originally posted by YT
I didn't notice the Italy and Turkey teams take the knee tonight and I've yet to hear anyone on the BBC mention that they didn't take the knee. Are comments about taking the knee or not taking the knee or about fans' reactions to taking the knee reserved just for the UK nations, do we think? So…two teams who just played football? Interesting.
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Originally posted by YT
I didn't notice the Italy and Turkey teams take the knee tonight and I've yet to hear anyone on the BBC mention that they didn't take the knee. Are comments about taking the knee or not taking the knee or about fans' reactions to taking the knee reserved just for the UK nations, do we think? If British players want to take the knee then they should be able to do so witout booing. What the italians do is up to them. Italy fought on the side of the facists, didn't have an empire like we did, the Roman Empire had slaves but it was not to do with colour and Italy does not have the same ethnicity mix as the UK. We were a key nation in the slave trade when it was about supposeldy black inferiority and have a toatally diferent history in that respect. After the war we had a sever labour shortage and needed to draw on the empire and we have integrated fairly well ever since. Good old Gareth Southgate. A Palace boy. A club in a multi racial area and acknowledging it. I'm much as proud of that as I am embarrassed by this ignorant red neck Palace site. I look forward to England taking the knee to acknowledge that black lives matter which is actually acknowledging a change. COME ON YOU ENGLAND!
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
If British players want to take the knee then they should be able to do so witout booing. What the italians do is up to them. Italy fought on the side of the facists, didn't have an empire like we did, the Roman Empire had slaves but it was not to do with colour and Italy does not have the same ethnicity mix as the UK. We were a key nation in the slave trade when it was about supposeldy black inferiority and have a toatally diferent history in that respect. After the war we had a sever labour shortage and needed to draw on the empire and we have integrated fairly well ever since. Good old Gareth Southgate. A Palace boy. A club in a multi racial area and acknowledging it. I'm much as proud of that as I am embarrassed by this ignorant red neck Palace site. I look forward to England taking the knee to acknowledge that black lives matter which is actually acknowledging a change. COME ON YOU ENGLAND!
You think Turkey weren't involved in the African slave trade? Shows how little you know then. Once again, if players want their free speech to promote their politics then fans can have their free speech to show their dislike. Polling shows that slightly less people think taking the knee is 'very important' than oppose it. Everyone is entitled to their view.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So…two teams who just played football? Interesting. I’m happy to be called a racist if that’s how some feel, because it’s the same old crap coming from the same idiots who think that having a different opinion makes you a racist. Utter dickheads the lot of them. I’m all for ridding the world of overt racism however being told what you can and cannot think goes beyond the pale for me.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I’m happy to be called a racist if that’s how some feel, because it’s the same old crap coming from the same idiots who think that having a different opinion makes you a racist. Utter dickheads the lot of them. I’m all for ridding the world of overt racism however being told what you can and cannot think goes beyond the pale for me. Why only overt?
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Originally posted by DanH
Why only overt? Because if it’s covert you’re really getting into thought crime territory?
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Originally posted by DanH
Why only overt? Because surely that is all that matters. If someone is a closet racist you will never know anyway.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Because surely that is all that matters. If someone is a closet racist you will never know anyway. What if the closet racists are people who make decisions regarding hiring, firing, making laws, arresting people etc? I’d rather someone was an overt racist. At least then you know what you’re dealing with.
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Originally posted by DanH
Maybe this explains a lot. To me it’s always been the covert racism that’s been a much bigger problem in this country. People who think just because they’re not calling someone the N word they’re not a racist. Covert racism is a huge cause of the inequalities people are doing this for. Overt racism just causes fights and is the refuge of the deeply unintelligent. It’s those smart enough to know better to do that but who still harbour the same feelings who are the bigger problem. Edited by DanH (12 Jun 2021 12.04am) Oh yes Dan. We'd better probe people's minds and purge any wrong thoughts. Can you hear yourself, you nutter?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Oh yes Dan. We'd better probe people's minds and purge any wrong thoughts. Can you hear yourself, you nutter? That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that’s what the issue is that has brought this to the forefront of society now and forcing people to have this conversation. There are a lot of people in power or people that can make decisions that influence a lot of lives that quite clearly harbour these thoughts. One of the biggest benefits of this whole knee issue is that it’s made a lot of people like yourself realise that the game is up to a certain extent. I have a slight respect for you in that you’re one of the few on here to be quite unambiguous in what you think and to recognise that people like you (and me) hold the power and have done for a long time. The fact that people are now standing up for themselves and have lost that fear factor is scaring the sh*t out of you and others.
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