The IRA came to the table because they knew the game was up.

I know your side likes to cave in to terrorism so your comment is no surprise.

I would prefer a deal but unless the EU are willing to negotiate we must leave without one. The question of a hard border becomes the problem of the Irish and the EU it's not an issue for the UK government. They keep talking about terrorism when this is really about trade.

The UK will not implement a hard border so the question you have to ask is why would the Irish and the EU? I don't think they will either. Most check can be carried remotely maybe some things slide but then they do today.

One more point

You're 100% right. It would be political suicide for any Irish government to impose a hard border. It's not going to happen. The UK government should call the EU's bluff on it. They should have done it last year.

Edited by corkery (16 Jun 2019 10.58pm)

We'll never die

He is really....really really not right.

The Republic of Ireland is in the EU. If Northern Ireland is not in the EU, there must be a hard border with checks etc otherwise trade and commerce cannot function.

If Northern Ireland stays closely aligned to the Republic of Ireland in terms of trade etc then the border is moved into the sea between England and Ireland. This is called the backstop.

That is very much an issue for the UK government isn't it, because it threatens the Union and creates a border between England and Northern Ireland.

"They keep talking about terrorism when its about trade". Its about both.

Must be fake news/project fear when multiple former MI5 officers and NI police come out and state it could have devastating results to the peace process.

"Most check can be carried remotely maybe some things slide but then they do today."

?????

Is he talking about border checks? Is this the mythical "alternative arrangement" that is so mythical and magical that no one can actually say what it is/what technology it requires?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Crashing out? We will not be doing that deal or no deal!!

If there is no deal then its wto by default which isn't crash and burn as you guys suggest!

Might want to stick to Trump and Israel, Jimenez.

Norway is part of the EEA and therefore has access to the EU single market.

If we crash out of the EU on Oct 31st, the UK will certainly not be a part of the EEA and will certainly not have access to the single market.

Leaving the single market was what people voted for.

Nice try, but you might want to check these things out a bit before you post them.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

This is like listening to James O Brien and his "callers".

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What electronic checking is that then?

Perhaps the kind that the expert report mentioned in the above article described in the following manner:

The report is cool on the suggestion that electronic monitoring of the Border could be a substitute for checks.

“Although the Border does not have any customs posts, there is some surveillance of vehicle movements. The authorities are thus able to track cars, trucks, etc in their journey along and across the Border. However, this surveillance is for security purposes,” it says.

“In practice, effective implementation of the objectives articulated in the customs authority’s mission can only be achieved by conducting inspections based on risk-analysis methods, which includes random checks.

“Furthermore, the existing security-based surveillance infrastructure would have to be repurposed for customs. Aside from the issue of whether such repurposing is technically feasible in the light of the situation under a no-deal scenario, there is the issue of whether it would be politically acceptable, including amongst the population living along the Border,” it says.

So, in conclusion, what the actual f*** are you going on about?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maybe wind your neck in a bit big mouth. What about the other countries I mentioned? Or has TDS completely made you an arrogant asshole.
You seem to cherry pick slivers of Information to suit you're agenda? Something you accuse others of doing.

Pro USA & Israel

In terms of s*** spouting, brexiteers win that battle hands down. 350 mil or the NHS anyone?

The same trade agreements as they had with the EU.....

Let that sink in for a bit.

After Brexit you want the same trade agreements with non EU countries like S Korea, as the EU had.

Kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it? If it was so f***ing bad to be in the EU why do you want the same trade agreements?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

It's about continuity of trade whilst we leave!

Did you know we are not allowed to do any new trade agreement whilst in the eu? Once left we can agree a deal that suit both countries better!!

Regarding the 350m you guys seem obsessed with, answer me these 3 simple question terms

Layman terms
Question 1
how much do we pay the EU as a member net per month? Google it if you don't know

Question 2
If we are not a member do you expect the UK to still pay for this membership? Yes or no answer would be sufficient!

Question 3
So if you answered no to question 2,what potentially happens to that monthly fee? Trusting the monkeys in Parliament to spend it wisely is another matter!

If you answered yes to 3, remind me who the the real thickos are?

Edited by cpfc_chap (18 Jun 2019 6.22am)