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W12 27 Feb 19 9.04pm

By the way, go and watch a real abortion at any stage and come back and tell me it’s a right for women.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Feb 19 10.17pm

Originally posted by W12

By the way, go and watch a real abortion at any stage and come back and tell me it’s a right for women.

Ban them outright and you can watch some backstreet abortions too and tell me what you think of those.

As with everything in politics the issue of abortion is dragged to two unrealistic extremes by both parties. On the left side of that equation though I definitely worry about how cavalier some women can be about abortion.

 

W12 27 Feb 19 10.52pm

I repeat, go and see it. If you really want to be informed I would urge you and anyone.

Eyes properly wide open.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 Feb 19 11.04pm

Originally posted by W12

I repeat, go and see it. If you really want to be informed I would urge you and anyone.

Eyes properly wide open.

There's not a lot I haven't seen and my suggestion is that policy needs to be functional and sensible. If we enact law solely based on the emotion of watching an abortion youtube video or a war video or a child crying at a border wall video, it won't really be useful for society.

As I said, intrinsically I believe that society should see abortion as something that's serious and not some kind of lunch break whim. On the whole I'd be in favour of reducing the window for having an abortion, but keeping in mind that they shouldn't be outright illegal due to the very serious knock on effect of that.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 27 Feb 19 11.55pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have previously decided to stay out of these threads and was hoping someone else would pick up on this but as they haven't I cannot let it just stand, because the claim that the Democrats voted in favour of infanticide is completely wrong and is just being used by Trump to wind up his evangelical base.

No doctor, or nurse, would ever allow infanticide to take place and they have reacted with justified outrage at such a suggestion.

What actually happened was that the Democrats refused to endorse a bill that sought to make illegal something that is already illegal. They did so because they regarded the bill as a stalking horse attempt to introduce a wider ban on abortion.

So unless you regard abortion as infanticide what is suggested just isn't true.

That's it. I won't enter a long debate on this but urge those interested to research the real facts.

Well if you actually read the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, you will know there is no restriction of abortion in it.

Yes there was a 2002 bill, but there is currently no existing federal legislation that mandates medical care for children born alive after an attempted abortion.

The legislation states: "Any infant born alive after an abortion or within a hospital, clinic, or other facility has the same claim to the protection of the law that would arise for any newborn, or for any person who comes to a hospital, clinic, or other facility for screening and treatment or otherwise becomes a patient within its care."

I'm no evangelical, and like many, believe that a baby deserves medical care after a botched abortion and should not be put down like a dog.

Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Feb 2019 12.03am)

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 28 Feb 19 12.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have previously decided to stay out of these threads and was hoping someone else would pick up on this but...

Honestly I just keep reading the very start of your posts and the ever present nature of them and the 'i'm just on my way out of the door, but..' aspect does bring a smile. Trump might call you high energy eagle.


Edited by dollardays (28 Feb 2019 12.11am)

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 28 Feb 19 12.14am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Well if you actually read the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, you will know there is no restriction of abortion in it.

Yes there was a 2002 bill, but there is currently no existing federal legislation that mandates medical care for children born alive after an attempted abortion.

The legislation states: "Any infant born alive after an abortion or within a hospital, clinic, or other facility has the same claim to the protection of the law that would arise for any newborn, or for any person who comes to a hospital, clinic, or other facility for screening and treatment or otherwise becomes a patient within its care."

I'm no evangelical, and like many, believe that a baby deserves medical care after a botched abortion and should not be put down like a dog.

Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Feb 2019 12.03am)

I'd have to agree with the legislation as stated. The idea of a baby surviving an abortion and then after all of that being taken out by whatever means does sound both horrible and extreme.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 05 Mar 19 12.52pm

Why does the BBC not bleep out Trump saying "bulls***" in this 20 second clip? they would for anyone else [Link]

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 07 Mar 19 8.15pm

They changed the earlier headline from a statement of fact this morning: 'Donald Trump get Apple boss’s name wrong' to this: 'Does Donald Trump get Apple boss’s name wrong?' [Link]

Is this actual news? Or just an excuse to mock the president?


Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Mar 2019 8.15pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Mar 19 8.42pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

They changed the earlier headline from a statement of fact this morning: 'Donald Trump get Apple boss’s name wrong' to this: 'Does Donald Trump get Apple boss’s name wrong?' [Link]

Is this actual news? Or just an excuse to mock the president?


Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Mar 2019 8.15pm)

I find the whole, 'Tim Apple' thing amusing.

He's the god emperor....these minions scuttle around his ankles blowing raspberries. His name will always be remembered, theirs won't.

 


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.TUX. Flag 22 Mar 19 10.52pm

The Mueller report is in and guess what............

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Mar 19 11.05pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

The Mueller report is in and guess what............

Trump getting impeached hopefully.
Fingers crossed.

 

dannyboy1978 Flag 23 Mar 19 7.01am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Trump getting impeached hopefully.
Fingers crossed.

Scrapping the Barrel are we!

 

Stirlingsays Flag 23 Mar 19 8.18am

So it pans out that there was no 'collusion' other than wishful thinking spurred on by the left wing press.

Imagine my shock.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 23 Mar 19 8.25am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So it pans out that there was no 'collusion' other than wishful thinking spurred on by the left wing press.

Imagine my shock.

Trump is the business.

He called the head of Apple "Tim Apple" and then caused a MSM melt down by (clearly tongue in cheek) saying it was a deliberate attempt to save words.

He's the greatest president of all time, a strong leader and someone all Americans should be proud of.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 23 Mar 19 8.34am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Trump is the business.

He called the head of Apple "Tim Apple" and then caused a MSM melt down by (clearly tongue in cheek) saying it was a deliberate attempt to save words.

He's the greatest president of all time, a strong leader and someone all Americans should be proud of.


Yep, the Alpha leader who stands upon the whining heads of beta male feminist allies.

2016 was a year of total victory.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2019 8.34am)

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 23 Mar 19 8.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Yep, the Alpha leader who stands upon the whining heads of beta male feminist allies.

2016 was a year of total victory.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2019 8.34am)

If only we'd won the cup...

 

Stirlingsays Flag 23 Mar 19 8.44am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

If only we'd won the cup...

True, true....but we may have won the country back.

We shall see.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

ChrisGC Flag Wantage 23 Mar 19 8.48am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

True, true....but we may have won the country back.

We shall see.

No chance. Agent May has successfully cancelled Brexit as per her employer's instructions.

It's just a case of when we either pay 40 billion to remain or call the whole thing off. The EU will just keep extending until we do one or the other.

Anyway, bringing it back on topic, Trump just keeps smashing through record after record regarding economy and employment. Can't see him losing in 2020

 

Stirlingsays Flag 23 Mar 19 10.58am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

No chance. Agent May has successfully cancelled Brexit as per her employer's instructions.

It's just a case of when we either pay 40 billion to remain or call the whole thing off. The EU will just keep extending until we do one or the other.

Anyway, bringing it back on topic, Trump just keeps smashing through record after record regarding economy and employment. Can't see him losing in 2020

Oh I can, it's not through his presidency but rather demographics and mainstream coverage.

I give him a good chance in 2020 but long term the path is set. No white leader of the GoP can win from 2028.....it's just not going to happen. Republicans will run on the Ben Carsons and Marco Rubios....excellent minds of course but they still won't win and eventually the normies will wake up to what's been done to them.

Then after some GOP indecision while it has a changing of the guard the GOP will become increasingly overtly Identitarian .....basically following the tactics of the Democrats.

It's all rather depressing, but the inevitability of what's coming down the pipe is as predictable as the establishment's reaction to Brexit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2019 11.02am)

 


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